Previously forums were mostly highly categorized and discussions had to be kept on topic as going off topic was considered incredibly bad etiquette. With yahoo answers there was only a few days for answers to post before the question asked had to judge best answer. Irrelevant and off topic responses were deleted as spam.
Since Reddit, and the way Reddit is, posts end up being buried after a few hours and if a discussion manages to start you can guarantee it will be diverted in the responses. This isn’t even restricted just to conversation on important conspiracies, such as what we need to do about the Jews (which would quickly get deleted anyway). Even some random kid asking for homework help on the Norman conquest of England will end up getting comments diverting the discussion to Putin and trans.
This has meant that it encourages people to learn to engage in disjointed and divergent thinking- previously a sign of mental disability.
I don't know but it didn't used to be that way on early Reddit.
subreddits were introduced to funnel interested groups together, it used to be all one page, and so that randos did not comment on everything
once the number of visitors got high enough, the value of controlling the story increased
It went downhill after they killed the founder, Aaron Schwartz
Schwartz was brought in by VC guy Paul Graham, he told Huffman and Ohanian if they wanted more money they would have to take Schwartz and call him a founder.
Schwartz then re-wrote the reddit source code for them.
After Schwartz was murdered they never called him founder again.
the problem with reddit is, just about anything you want to say on any given topic in any subreddit is "against the rules"
it can be totally unrelated to politics or conspiracies. it can be about your opinion on piercings or something totally random you want help with. if you ask an important question -- especially on a taboo topic (like being harassed by gang-members involved in a secret sex club ring and asking people in that subculture how serious this is) -- will immediately get banned and people will refuse to answer and call you crazy.
if you're lucky at all someone will see you posted and direct message you on the topic, generally warning you "never to talk about this to anyone"
but even less taboo topics, even stuff like piercings ive got banned for just saying I did my lobe piercings myself. its ridiculous. the rules basically cover everything anyone would ever want to say or ask about a specific topic, and if the subject is taboo like what I mentioned or conspiracies, they just make up a rule to ban you from the subreddit after posting.
its bad. at least on a forum the rules were simple and not against posting about specific topics/ideas/things. so you could go into a forum or chat room and openly speak about anything related to the topic at all with legitimate response. but theres like community hierarchies protecting secrets and controlling access to certain information and its a real problem.
they enforce you away from posting anything you want to, on any topic whatsoever, so half the time I go there I wonder "whats the point, if my post doesnt get removed and I dont get banned I will simply get flamed and downvoted"
its not even a question. and it doesnt matter about politics. its that rules there arent only based on behavior, but specific topics and subjects. too much is taboo on most of them for them to be of any use to anyone.
speech is in fact so restricted and censored that you have to read and remember a laundry list of often arbitrary banned topics and god forbid you forget once and casually mention something from real life about something small or something that gets misinterpreted. instaban, no chance to remediate, ip locked so alt accounts can never get back into that subreddit and the individual is simply banned from all speech related to this topic. even for something as simple as "I did my lobes myself and got better results than a lot of professional jobs" -- it was against the rules to encourage self-piercing, which I did not, but now im banned for life from a stupid subreddit over just that little bit.
the thought police are insanely strong and exist there to keep current subculture hierarchies in power. not just political ones. it goes from simple business promotion to outright censorship of topics.
moving to only reddit had one benefit -- it funneled every subculture into one singular forum. this makes it so if you get outcast from the one community, your social credit is now fucked and you just lose participation in an entire subculture. same as getting deplatformed.
if there were multiple individual forums related to the topic, another forum would accept the banned member back into the subculture and social-access-control would fail.
literally every single time I want to post a question on reddit I think "I really need help and want to ask my question, but its against the rules... where do I go?"
its almost like Id have to work my way up personally into the group of people who can answer my question and ask in person, but everything is organized online so good luck on that!
whats the use of a forum if the question you need to ask is against the rules? what if everything you have to contribute to others is also against the rules? just to show off you already have the answers but cant tell anyone else ever???
so asking how to get into the scenes or what to do is against the rules, because you already have to be in on it and know the answer in order to ask the question. what the fuck kind of forum is that?
it's probably a bit of both: on the one hand, I do think Reddit was designed to centralize discussion of topics on the internet. on the other hand, setting up a Reddit forum is ridiculously easy compared to setting up a classic internet forum, and the population will tend towards the path of least resistance.
Reddit was a small website in the beginning. Digg was the goto site on the Internet, similar to how Reddit is now but with less subs. The whole idea of Digg was the users would upvote the stories they liked. But people quickly worked out if they could game the website by buying votes or whatever they could drive enormous amounts of Web traffic to their sites. Power users and their network of friends basically took over all content submission on the site. The site transformed into advertising disguised as news and everyone knew it. The admins did nothing to fix it. People started to move to the alternative which was reddit. The final nail in the coffin was when the site owner just sold the whole website, making bank but destroying it entirely in the process. It still exists today but as a curated news site which was the opposite reason it existed in the first place.
Reddit for years I think escaped the worst of obvious cheating to drive traffic. Not saying it wasn't happening but not to the level it happened on digg. Part of the reason was that the site grew so big, to buy votes you'd need a lot of accounts. But then the 2016 election happened and the big boys moved in. Due to some campaign finance loop hole they were allowed to shill online and they had a budget of millions to do it. It wasn't even a secret correct the record detailed it on their website. But they absolutely fucked reddit in the process. It transformed it into the center of the online anti trump resistance where the front page was filled with obvious botted spam. And similar story the admins did nothing. I think the force driving the content also corrupted the entire admin team. Anyone that isn't a hard-core leftist is probably banned from all the major subs or shadow banned at this point. This leaves just the left wing crazies circle jerking each other. I think the obvious botted spam has reduced but they have radically shifted the politics base on the site. Subs like the politics one are probably entirely managed by some organisation like correct the record. The bias is so extreme there probably hasn't been an an article that wasn't negative towards republicans since 2017.
They banned whole subreddits for not being leftist, including the original ConPro. This site was originally solely a replacement for /r/The_Donald.
Yep, they got all conservatives in 1 sub the_donald, and then surgically removed it like a tumor, leaving only leftists crazies left. I think it was so bad they rewrote how the entire front page worked at one point to keep the_donald off of it.
American "conservatives" are a tumor and don't belong mixing in with normal people.
a lot of them are. look here, most people actually are racists and are everything the left claims them to be. they end up making the rest of the opposition look bad with their hillbilly protectionist mindset of fighting to get back their seat in society rather than actually unilaterally fix the problems. if you all were rich and happy you wouldnt care if the rest of us starved in the streets -- in fact your idea of killing off entire races like hitler in order to make there be "enough to go around without austerity for the rich" proves that.
also your denial of other races and groups involved in conspiracy even though I know directly more conspiracies than any of you ever will and ive been involved in conspiracies my entire life. I was the only jew involved ever. in fact the last woman I met involved in a conspiracy had an ancestor that was hitlers right hand man. Yes, nazis are also involved in conspiracies including drug and sex trafficking but will never admit to it.
I only know things because im the ultimate super-spy who tricks people into feeding me information by pretending to be an insider using my already massive knowledgebase of inside-information. Also my race isnt clearly visible. im a super big threat to everyone and they usually find out and start gang wars with me over stepping on their territory doing shit I aint supposed to and also spying on them and knowing things Im not supposed to about them and their little gangs.
call me a sneaky jew -- im just an investigative journalist who doesnt publish his findings. im no different than the journo in jail in russia for doing the same thing -- tricking people into giving him illegal inside information about governments/gangs etc. its all your own fault for allowing yourselves to talk openly to some strange handsome charismatic man who seems to know so much he HAS to be in on it right? WRONG. you got duped into giving me the evidence for any conspiracy i was investigating involving you!!!! to practice spycraft you do this, then go to another town or city far away outside of those you spied on's sphere of influence, then you do it again each time using the intel you gathered on the last mission. eventually... you learn everything! so be VERY careful who you talk to and dont get taken by charisma and someone knowing so much about a secret -- its likely someone like me attempting to honeypot you or otherwise spy on you to leak more information regarding that secret. I even study psychological patterns and behaviors of my targets so I can pre-identify people in certain groups by sight/instinct (sort of how people say gay people have "gaydar" its the same thing, I see your gait, behaviors, drug use patterns, psychology, etc and predetermine you are involved in a specific group before I approach you)
im a hero is what I am. a living fucking hero. your words, ideology, etc. mean nothing to me and cannot change the reality of who I am nor the things ive done or people i've helped by being an anarchist agent of self-interest. I can betray groups. I can violate oaths. I can trick people since Im not a member and therefore bound by no rules of any subculture -- ive just been spying on all of them for years!!!!!
CIA should hire me, but they wont. im also banned from getting government clearance because of past criminal history.
anyway this place has indeed become a cesspit and I'll get downvoted as fuck for speaking actual truth that everything isnt always "the jews" and the specific jews in power arent even fucking really jews and dont give a shit about the larger population (all of israel was forced into the fucking death vaccine idiots, if it does kill or affect genetics/reproduction than the jewish race is mostly already dead anyway and your goal is moot)
these people absolutely should not get control of society as they will simply take what exists by conquest and not "fix" society for other groups. in fact their "fix" is to kill people so there is "more to go around" without implementing any sort of austerity for the rich. this strategy might work, for one group, for a few generations. but once population is restored it becomes the same clusterfuck and now you dont have another race to "blame"
This comment was a really fun ride.
anti trump and political censorship isnt even the main problem.
I said it above, ive been banned from totally non-political subreddits because most questions you would ask, and most comments you would make in any given subreddit are against the rules. not just offensive ones.
the rules on each subreddit are basically primed to support certain individuals and prevent people from asking certain questions or discussing certain topics.
its to the extent someone could be mentally distraught and suffering severe mental illness scared or bothered by a specific topic going on in their life, but discussion of the topic is banned.
or you could just inadvertently say you did something related to a subreddit topic i.e. "I pierced my own ears" -- self piercing discussion is banned thus you are banned. too bad you didnt memorize a laundry list of rules preventing any discussion of anything important or any REAL questions a person might have.
the only things you can post on there with questions are obvious questions one could simply go see a doctor or ask their piercing artist in person about.
the censorship goes beyond political. sometimes it supports specific businesses and undermines competition, other times it protects social-hierarchy access to information (by only allowing questions from people who already have the answers), and yet other times it just staunches discussion.
reddit was a better, more usable alternative that people gravitated to, and then was taken over. (though, personally, i liked early Digg better)
(((TPTB))) don't actually create anything. (((they))) wait for makers, creators, inventors, and innovators to come up with something people like/want, then (((they))) find a way to take it over and corrupt it for (((their))) own porpoises.
Yes
Learning about the Norman conquest of England could actually help you to understand Putin and trans.
And the psychological aspect of Twitter starting with a 144 max characters, then giving everyone the feeling of "opening up" and "freeing of limitations" by increasing the arbitrary limit.
Lot of young ladies got very free and open on Twitter for no good reason. The nudges work.
I totally agree, which is why we should not believe Fermat's Last Theorem has actually been solved, since the Talmud says a day-old antelope is bigger than Mt. Tabor. Upvote if you agree!