Your post proves you don't understand outgassing as well as you think you do. Just like always, you latch on to one scientific fact and ignore the rest of the variables involved. It leads to a flawed understanding of the mechanics at work and false conclusions.
If you want to learn more, I found Henry Frankel's paper on outgassing a fascinating read.
you latch on to one scientific fact and ignore the rest of the variables involved
This is the horrible confirmation bias that a lot of conspiracy tards employ.
AND FOR THE TARDS WHO THINK SPACE IS JUST GOING UNDERWATER IN REVERSE....
You're not getting it.
The pressure isn't the problem. The vacuum is. Hard vacuum (10^-6 torr or greater) causes materials to outgas. This means the material weight is literally reduced by the vacuum as molecules of it turn gaseous and float away. The seals are elastomers, which are especially susceptible to outgassing.
Outer space, commonly referred to simply as space, is the expanse that exists beyond Earth and its atmosphere and between celestial bodies. Outer space is not completely empty; > it is a near-perfect vacuum[1] containing a low density of particles, predominantly a plasma of hydrogen and helium as well as electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, neutrinos, dust, and cosmic rays. The baseline temperature of outer space, as set by the background radiation from the Big Bang, is 2.7 kelvins (−270 °C; −455 °F).[2]
There is nearly zero pressure in space, but if you had a spacecraft with air for humans to live in inside, there would be pressure pushing outwards. This is sometimes referred to as negative 'gauge pressure.' Similarly, in a submarine you have more pressure outside than inside, so it's pushing inwards - positive gauge pressure.
Humans need the pressure to be about one 'atmosphere,' or 101kPA, to survive - more, and you have difficulty breathing, can bruise, or in extreme cases be crushed and die; less, and you can't absorb oxygen, and in extreme cases your blood can form bubbles ('the bends') and you can die.
Deep underwater, because water is heavier than air, there is high pressure, and underwater ships or dive suits need to be engineered to hold up the massive weight of water around them. In space, there is near-zero pressure, so ships (for people) need to be engineered to hold the air in. But they only need to be able to withstand one atmosphere of pressure pushing outwards.
Im sorry bro, but your either a shill, or you need to educate yourself some more :(.
Im betting this can be easily replicated with a plastic bottle in a vacuum box. A pop bottle would likely being strong enough to contain the 100kpa required.
I know, its like precollege level science type stuff, its not meant to be easy.
What your talking about, with pulling the gasses out, they do that in a vacuum environment, there is nothing containing the air inside whatever it is they are trying to pull it out of.
Do you get it yet?
People, like artists, who use alot of epoxy use vacuum chambers(before being cured, or in the case of the gaskets, when they are being formed) to pull the air bubbles that are stuck in the solution out for a much better result.
Its funny, I agree with you, man likely didnt make it to the moon, but this is just silly. Why would the vacuum on the moon be any different than space? It has no atmosphere.
Perhaps some of earths atmosphere extends there, but who the fuck knows. But I can tell you with a 100% certainty, it aint gonna get anymore sucky then space.
You can find all sorts of videos of cans, because very thin aluminum turns out isnt very strong. Show me one of a pop bottle. They are designed to hold some high pressures and you wont find any because who the fuck wants to watch a bottle just sit there in a vacuum.
Buddy even says, he doesnt think its enough pressure inside to make it explode. At the end, again he even says, looks like this can could survive the vacuum of outer space.....
You've managed to completely miss the point again.
It's not the pressure or the strength. Its the effect the vacuum itself has. It causes materials to outgas. This means they literally turn to gas and just FLOAT AWAY.
The vacuum you use in your shop on epoxy is a low grade, ROUGH, vacuum. It's too weak to do this. Nothing like the high vacuum of space.
The vacuum is. Hard vacuum (10^-6 torr or greater) causes materials to outgas. This means the material weight is literally reduced by the vacuum as molecules of it turn gaseous and float away.
It is total bullshit.
To make metal outgas in vacuum you have to heat it to the temperatures when atoms thermokinetic energy become larger than energy of bonds betwen atoms in metal. For zinc, f.e. it is around 400°C. However nobody make spacecrafts from zinc. Aluminiun, unlike zinc don't have a habit to sublimate like zinc, so you have to melt it and heat more, up to ~1000°C. Titanium, stainless steel and other cool space materials have higher temperatures of outgasing. When things came to such temperatures, obviously outgasing is the last problem to deal with.
Of course, there could be fluctuations that could result in atom separation, but the probability is so low that it is something like few atoms per day. Micrometeorites and space radiation do much more harm for the vessel than this process. But to simulate them you again don't need vacuum chamber at all.
Really interesting who and for what purpose throw in all that stupid and easily disprovable bullshit about moonhoax, when there is more than enough much more solid and still unanswered questions about the whole Apollo project. What is the problem to select few best questions and constantly hit authorities until they admit the lies? Isn't this is a goal of all that moonhoax movement?
Moonhoax shilling with stupid "yet another "arguments" is a kind of interesting phenomena, I think it is really more interesting rabbit hole than moonhoax itself. It is like absurdising topic to the level when it looses its importance. I observe same strategy with many other things, from coronahoax and vaccinehoax to the whole NWO thing. Is that all coming from single source?
Let's hear your list of "acceptable" moonhoax theories since you obviously have HUUUGE powers of discernment. Maybe this time without the wall of text?
First, seems you don't even know what RTV is. RTV is "Room Temperature Vulcanisation". It is a property of material, not material name or brand. It could be rubber, polyurethane, silicone, butadien-stirole, any elastic polymer that will cure at room temperature.
Second. Silicone itself does not outgas at al. It will decompose earlier, than it reach outgasing temperature. Silicone outgasing with reducing amount of material due to loss of atoms or molecules is a complete nonsense, unlike for metal, ice and other substances that at least could outgas into space under specific circumstances.
Third. 2k silicone rubber have silicone oils and solvents in components to make mixing and applying easier. After curing (vulcanisation) this components still present between created silicone polymer chains. Table about outgassing silicone compounds is about evapouration of that componenets from silicone resin, not about silicone itself. Evapouration of thinners and oils does not make silicone rubber weaker or make it loose any sealing properties. But it harmful for vacuum in vacuum chambers. F.e. I have a small vacuum chamber for restoration of vintage cars headlights reflectors with vacuum metal vapour deposition. With fresh gasket for vacuum bell, I geting bad results of deposition, weak adhesion, because of that thinners from 2k silicone that outgas and interfere with metal vapours. I need around 2 days under vacuum to get rid of that nasty substances that contaminate my vacuum, and then silicone gasket works perfectly. It does not evapourate, it just get rid of thinners and comtaminate vacuum. That is why silicone compounds tested for outgasing of additives. Meanwhile even cheap 1k silicone from hardware store will work perfectly in any vacuum. You just need more time to dry it in air, and more time to dry under vacuum. Silicone compounds designed specifically for vacuum gaskets have less additives so have less vacuum contamination. It is all about fucking vacuum chamber contamination, not about silicone disapeearing.
Again and again, you show that you don't want to know how things work. You just found some stupid screenshot and post it here.
What is the source of that screenshot? Where did you get it? Who told you to post it here? Let me guess, you, suddenly, will never answer this questions. :)
Let's hear your list of "acceptable" moonhoax theories
Where is moon soil? Why NASA presented USSR only few dozen grams of moon soil, less than USSR presented to NASA just before? They presumably bring 382 kg of moon soil, but presented only few dozen grams of soil that was suddenly identical to one that USSR presented to NASA.
How Apollo crews was able to walk and stay on foot right after the landing? A week in low gravity conditions does not allow that.
Why huge part of important documentation of Apollo project was destroyed? That is not what people do with documentation of greatest achievement of humanity.
Why after that huge success with heavy duty rockets, great docking expirience and so on, NASA curtailed any long term missions to space and all space station projects? NASA resumed long term missions only with Mir space station.
What is the source of that screenshot? Where did you get it? Who told you to post it here? Let me guess, you, suddenly, will never answer this questions. :)
You seem awfully concerned. I'll let you in on a secret. There's a forum just like this, only better, and I copied it from there.
Your post proves you don't understand outgassing as well as you think you do. Just like always, you latch on to one scientific fact and ignore the rest of the variables involved. It leads to a flawed understanding of the mechanics at work and false conclusions.
If you want to learn more, I found Henry Frankel's paper on outgassing a fascinating read.
wow it's like you have more than 1 account or something
I would love to know what 10 -12 Torr would be if you could express it as lbs/square inch of suck. Does anyone know how to calculate this?
Just doing math in my head, it's really really really close to 0psi
1.9337e-13 psi. So, very, very very small. Practically zero.
Do other conspiracy theorist feel embarrassed about their views when they see retards say shit like space if fake or the earth is flat?
Those are just psy-ops. It doesn't surprise me at all that the super-evils are trying to muddle thinking. After all, that's what the MSM already do.
faggot
bal = ball = globe = testicle... the math speaks for itsself
AND FOR THE TARDS WHO THINK SPACE IS JUST GOING UNDERWATER IN REVERSE....
You're not getting it.
The pressure isn't the problem. The vacuum is. Hard vacuum (10^-6 torr or greater) causes materials to outgas. This means the material weight is literally reduced by the vacuum as molecules of it turn gaseous and float away. The seals are elastomers, which are especially susceptible to outgassing.
There's a whole field of materials science related to using this to create thin coatings.
The hard vacuum of space is a uniquely hostile environment to man-made materials.
Oh boy, your really a stubborn one arent you ^^.
Im sorry bro, but your either a shill, or you need to educate yourself some more :(.
Im betting this can be easily replicated with a plastic bottle in a vacuum box. A pop bottle would likely being strong enough to contain the 100kpa required.
I know, its like precollege level science type stuff, its not meant to be easy.
What your talking about, with pulling the gasses out, they do that in a vacuum environment, there is nothing containing the air inside whatever it is they are trying to pull it out of.
Do you get it yet?
People, like artists, who use alot of epoxy use vacuum chambers(before being cured, or in the case of the gaskets, when they are being formed) to pull the air bubbles that are stuck in the solution out for a much better result.
Its funny, I agree with you, man likely didnt make it to the moon, but this is just silly. Why would the vacuum on the moon be any different than space? It has no atmosphere.
Perhaps some of earths atmosphere extends there, but who the fuck knows. But I can tell you with a 100% certainty, it aint gonna get anymore sucky then space.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2LEvpzzaMUM
see....
You can find all sorts of videos of cans, because very thin aluminum turns out isnt very strong. Show me one of a pop bottle. They are designed to hold some high pressures and you wont find any because who the fuck wants to watch a bottle just sit there in a vacuum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZMNu4PWf8
Buddy even says, he doesnt think its enough pressure inside to make it explode. At the end, again he even says, looks like this can could survive the vacuum of outer space.....
Are you fucking satisfied yet? Have I amused you?
You've managed to completely miss the point again.
It's not the pressure or the strength. Its the effect the vacuum itself has. It causes materials to outgas. This means they literally turn to gas and just FLOAT AWAY.
The vacuum you use in your shop on epoxy is a low grade, ROUGH, vacuum. It's too weak to do this. Nothing like the high vacuum of space.
It is total bullshit.
To make metal outgas in vacuum you have to heat it to the temperatures when atoms thermokinetic energy become larger than energy of bonds betwen atoms in metal. For zinc, f.e. it is around 400°C. However nobody make spacecrafts from zinc. Aluminiun, unlike zinc don't have a habit to sublimate like zinc, so you have to melt it and heat more, up to ~1000°C. Titanium, stainless steel and other cool space materials have higher temperatures of outgasing. When things came to such temperatures, obviously outgasing is the last problem to deal with.
Of course, there could be fluctuations that could result in atom separation, but the probability is so low that it is something like few atoms per day. Micrometeorites and space radiation do much more harm for the vessel than this process. But to simulate them you again don't need vacuum chamber at all.
Really interesting who and for what purpose throw in all that stupid and easily disprovable bullshit about moonhoax, when there is more than enough much more solid and still unanswered questions about the whole Apollo project. What is the problem to select few best questions and constantly hit authorities until they admit the lies? Isn't this is a goal of all that moonhoax movement?
Moonhoax shilling with stupid "yet another "arguments" is a kind of interesting phenomena, I think it is really more interesting rabbit hole than moonhoax itself. It is like absurdising topic to the level when it looses its importance. I observe same strategy with many other things, from coronahoax and vaccinehoax to the whole NWO thing. Is that all coming from single source?
Talking about the RTV, not the metal. Obviously.
Let's hear your list of "acceptable" moonhoax theories since you obviously have HUUUGE powers of discernment. Maybe this time without the wall of text?
First, seems you don't even know what RTV is. RTV is "Room Temperature Vulcanisation". It is a property of material, not material name or brand. It could be rubber, polyurethane, silicone, butadien-stirole, any elastic polymer that will cure at room temperature.
Second. Silicone itself does not outgas at al. It will decompose earlier, than it reach outgasing temperature. Silicone outgasing with reducing amount of material due to loss of atoms or molecules is a complete nonsense, unlike for metal, ice and other substances that at least could outgas into space under specific circumstances.
Third. 2k silicone rubber have silicone oils and solvents in components to make mixing and applying easier. After curing (vulcanisation) this components still present between created silicone polymer chains. Table about outgassing silicone compounds is about evapouration of that componenets from silicone resin, not about silicone itself. Evapouration of thinners and oils does not make silicone rubber weaker or make it loose any sealing properties. But it harmful for vacuum in vacuum chambers. F.e. I have a small vacuum chamber for restoration of vintage cars headlights reflectors with vacuum metal vapour deposition. With fresh gasket for vacuum bell, I geting bad results of deposition, weak adhesion, because of that thinners from 2k silicone that outgas and interfere with metal vapours. I need around 2 days under vacuum to get rid of that nasty substances that contaminate my vacuum, and then silicone gasket works perfectly. It does not evapourate, it just get rid of thinners and comtaminate vacuum. That is why silicone compounds tested for outgasing of additives. Meanwhile even cheap 1k silicone from hardware store will work perfectly in any vacuum. You just need more time to dry it in air, and more time to dry under vacuum. Silicone compounds designed specifically for vacuum gaskets have less additives so have less vacuum contamination. It is all about fucking vacuum chamber contamination, not about silicone disapeearing.
Again and again, you show that you don't want to know how things work. You just found some stupid screenshot and post it here.
What is the source of that screenshot? Where did you get it? Who told you to post it here? Let me guess, you, suddenly, will never answer this questions. :)
Where is moon soil? Why NASA presented USSR only few dozen grams of moon soil, less than USSR presented to NASA just before? They presumably bring 382 kg of moon soil, but presented only few dozen grams of soil that was suddenly identical to one that USSR presented to NASA.
How Apollo crews was able to walk and stay on foot right after the landing? A week in low gravity conditions does not allow that.
Why huge part of important documentation of Apollo project was destroyed? That is not what people do with documentation of greatest achievement of humanity.
Why after that huge success with heavy duty rockets, great docking expirience and so on, NASA curtailed any long term missions to space and all space station projects? NASA resumed long term missions only with Mir space station.
Why the lame negative attitude dude?
You seem awfully concerned. I'll let you in on a secret. There's a forum just like this, only better, and I copied it from there.