Denying viral infections seems to be the new Flat Earth. Yes nutrition plays an important role but there is also the environment. You can't just say one or the other causes all disease.
For those new to the idea that there's a problem with viruses (as distinct from bacteria) when it comes to germ theory, I suggest you take a look at Koch's postulates. First, just read the postulates themselves and see if they make sense.
If it seems correct that satisfying these four postulates would be the necessary baseline demonstration of existence for "an infectious virus that causes a disease", then understand that no virus has ever, in 140 years, been shown to satisfy these simple requirements.
Then you can skim the rest of the Wiki page to see how they wave their hands around to distract you and give you every lame excuse in the book.
To hammer this point home, if no one felt it necessary that Koch's postulates be satisfied, then things like cooties and stab wounds could properly be classified as infectious diseases which could be diagnosed using a coin flip for testing. This is hidden from you in all the hand waving.
Haha, seriously! I'm surprised they even wrote them down, instead of just skipping straight to the part where they get to tell you, "But it's all a bunch of horseshit anyway, m'kay?"
Who do you trust to tell you that virology and germ theory are factual science? The same ones telling you to vaccinate against covid? The same establishments telling you to donate to cancer research but they never quite discover the cure? The same expurtz telling you that gender is fluid? That men can get pregnant? Did “merits” get man on the Moon?
Have you seen viruses infect someone? Did you see covid infect someone? How have you verified this? How do you know the illness wasn’t from a toxin, environmental, or bacterial? Could a toxin spread like we are told viruses do?
Well, you might have a certain common misunderstanding of what a theory is. Virtually everything that is taken as fact is actually a theory because human perception of the universe is limited and incapable of developing a truly comprehensive understanding thereof. And theories are theories because they have evidential merit; they’re ideas that are capable of functioning as explanations for tangible observations. The fact that an idea is “just a theory” is not grounds to discount the value of that idea.
Germ theory is effective because it does well to explain why people get sick. As for COVID specifically, I haven’t personally observed the COVID virus infecting someone, but you haven’t personally observed someone getting COVID without being infected by the virus, so you have no grounds for claiming that the virus doesn’t exist.
What kind of toxin would you think could spread like a virus could? It would have to replicate within a living organism, and it would have to contend with a person’s immune system, i.e. basically what a virus does.
We CRISPR DNA into bacteria all the time because we can predict in advance the result. How is it possible to doubt, when you can see them in a microscope?
and you dont transfer a virus to another person, you make the virus in your cells..
Yes, you make the virus in your cells, but clearly they weren't with you in the womb, so you acquired it from somewhere. And if you say the virus is made in our cells, then let me propose that a person with a virus in their skin (such as herpes simplex virus) might shed some virus-containing cells through friction. A person with a respiratory virus (such as influenza) may have virus in their lungs, from which virus-containing cells could be dislodged and ejected with aerosolized coughing--and then inhaled by a second individual.
To me, germ theory is reasonable, and terrain theory makes no additional sense. For example, if I'm healthy with whatever non-diseased virus status® but I get an anal pounding from a homeless tranny and now when I go home to my clean apartment the "terrain" is weakening my health?
There's nothing wrong with throwing it all out and rebuilding your beliefs from scratch. Questioning is good. You just gotta be careful what your new beliefs end up being.
I don't fathom how you don't believe in germs. In your mental framework for disease, how do you explain food poisoning? Or contaminated water? It's pretty straightforward that we can make predictions from germ theory and see usable results in real life.
Eg, food stored at room temperature will go bad because of bacteria, but won't if you kill the bacteria via canning (or other sterilizing methods, like irradiation). Water that is infected with disease will get you sick, but won't if you kill the bacteria by boiling.
Yeah, I’m fine with all of that, just not viruses or germ theory. There are lots of good books out there explaining what “viruses” are. Covid highlighted a lot of these issues.
Blaming it on diet and lifestyle alone is dishonest when we've been overwhelmingly poisoned through many other vectors – air, water, soil, food, Western medicine, media, EMFs/WiFi, education, propaganda, fucking lies.... etc.
Denying viral infections seems to be the new Flat Earth. Yes nutrition plays an important role but there is also the environment. You can't just say one or the other causes all disease.
For those new to the idea that there's a problem with viruses (as distinct from bacteria) when it comes to germ theory, I suggest you take a look at Koch's postulates. First, just read the postulates themselves and see if they make sense.
If it seems correct that satisfying these four postulates would be the necessary baseline demonstration of existence for "an infectious virus that causes a disease", then understand that no virus has ever, in 140 years, been shown to satisfy these simple requirements.
Then you can skim the rest of the Wiki page to see how they wave their hands around to distract you and give you every lame excuse in the book.
To hammer this point home, if no one felt it necessary that Koch's postulates be satisfied, then things like cooties and stab wounds could properly be classified as infectious diseases which could be diagnosed using a coin flip for testing. This is hidden from you in all the hand waving.
Haha, seriously! I'm surprised they even wrote them down, instead of just skipping straight to the part where they get to tell you, "But it's all a bunch of horseshit anyway, m'kay?"
Is this in reference to microplastics?
Virology and germ theory are both crocks of shit.
I don’t see how you can believe that.
I don’t need to trust them to see the merits of virology and germ theory. Whom would you trust to tell you that those theories are nonsense?
You know germ theory is just a theory, right?
Who do you trust to tell you that virology and germ theory are factual science? The same ones telling you to vaccinate against covid? The same establishments telling you to donate to cancer research but they never quite discover the cure? The same expurtz telling you that gender is fluid? That men can get pregnant? Did “merits” get man on the Moon?
Have you seen viruses infect someone? Did you see covid infect someone? How have you verified this? How do you know the illness wasn’t from a toxin, environmental, or bacterial? Could a toxin spread like we are told viruses do?
Well, you might have a certain common misunderstanding of what a theory is. Virtually everything that is taken as fact is actually a theory because human perception of the universe is limited and incapable of developing a truly comprehensive understanding thereof. And theories are theories because they have evidential merit; they’re ideas that are capable of functioning as explanations for tangible observations. The fact that an idea is “just a theory” is not grounds to discount the value of that idea.
Germ theory is effective because it does well to explain why people get sick. As for COVID specifically, I haven’t personally observed the COVID virus infecting someone, but you haven’t personally observed someone getting COVID without being infected by the virus, so you have no grounds for claiming that the virus doesn’t exist.
What kind of toxin would you think could spread like a virus could? It would have to replicate within a living organism, and it would have to contend with a person’s immune system, i.e. basically what a virus does.
We CRISPR DNA into bacteria all the time because we can predict in advance the result. How is it possible to doubt, when you can see them in a microscope?
You don't believe in lenses either?
Yes, you make the virus in your cells, but clearly they weren't with you in the womb, so you acquired it from somewhere. And if you say the virus is made in our cells, then let me propose that a person with a virus in their skin (such as herpes simplex virus) might shed some virus-containing cells through friction. A person with a respiratory virus (such as influenza) may have virus in their lungs, from which virus-containing cells could be dislodged and ejected with aerosolized coughing--and then inhaled by a second individual.
To me, germ theory is reasonable, and terrain theory makes no additional sense. For example, if I'm healthy with whatever non-diseased virus status® but I get an anal pounding from a homeless tranny and now when I go home to my clean apartment the "terrain" is weakening my health?
I can't see the utility in that world view.
Op also pushes flatearth. 🙃
There's nothing wrong with throwing it all out and rebuilding your beliefs from scratch. Questioning is good. You just gotta be careful what your new beliefs end up being.
Why would I care what you think I can believe?
looks at your post history
Lol, right. You should read some books.
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Bye-Germ-Theory-century-medical/dp/1413454402/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=MVPSAS4EDE7F&keywords=goodbye+germ+theory+by+doctor+william+p+trebing&qid=1688409055&sprefix=goodbye+germ%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1
Same reason that you think we should care what you believe.
What a Redditor.
Stunning and brave.
I don't fathom how you don't believe in germs. In your mental framework for disease, how do you explain food poisoning? Or contaminated water? It's pretty straightforward that we can make predictions from germ theory and see usable results in real life.
Eg, food stored at room temperature will go bad because of bacteria, but won't if you kill the bacteria via canning (or other sterilizing methods, like irradiation). Water that is infected with disease will get you sick, but won't if you kill the bacteria by boiling.
Yeah, I’m fine with all of that, just not viruses or germ theory. There are lots of good books out there explaining what “viruses” are. Covid highlighted a lot of these issues.
Blaming it on diet and lifestyle alone is dishonest when we've been overwhelmingly poisoned through many other vectors – air, water, soil, food, Western medicine, media, EMFs/WiFi, education, propaganda, fucking lies.... etc.