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It was destroying of Russian property, and that is exactly what I wrote.
You know absolutely nothing about Holodomor.
So-called "holodomor" war a severe famine created by bolshevik Jews who was in charge of USSR at the time in 1932-1933. Famine covered mostly Soutth-West part of USSR from Dnepr to Ural mountains. Most severe famine and most casualities was in Volga areas not on Ukraine. Famine was ended as soon as Stalin completely take over Trotskists in USSR government and partialy reverted shit Jews passed as laws that was the reason for famine.
In no way so called "Holodomor" is Ukrainian thing, Ukrainians was the least suffered people in that disaster among covered regions. In no way Russians are guilty in that disaster because it was created by Jews and forced by Jewish so-called provision squadrons formed mostly from Jews from regions of Pale of Settlements headed by Polish origin Jew Tukhachevsky who was evetually arrested and shot by Stalin order. Politically that shit was pushed by Lituanian Jew Vareikis, also exterminated by Stalin later.
How did you ever get to that complete bullshit about "Ukrainian Holodomor" hoax at all, being so careful about objectivity and anticipating to the propaganda?
There was no such thing as "Ukrainian Holodomor" at all because Ukraine as Ukrainian SSR (without modern Western Ukraine and Crimea) just appeared to existence first time in history just decade before the famine and most of those who suffered from it considered themselves as Malorussians or Russians. It was just after the so called "Ukrainization" of 1929-1930 forced by same Jews who perpetrated USSR famine. only 2 years before the famine children of Ukrainian SSR was teached that there exist Ukrainian language and it is just began teached in schools of Ukrainian SSR.
Do you understand, that at the time of 1932-33 famine there was no any Ukrainians as etnicity at all? Do you understand, that most severe famine in 1932-33 was in Russian regions, not those that now accounted as Ukrainian? Do you understand, that largest part of Ukrainian SSR that suffered from famine is Russian regions of modern Ukraine and most are voted to join Russia already? Do you understand, that ancestors of those Western Ukrainians who whine today about "Holodomor" just wasnt there at the time of famine, because their regions was parts of Poland, Romania and Hungary? Do you understand that it is Jews whose ancestors perpetrated that famine over Russian people from Dnepr to Ural created that blatant lie about "Holodomor" as "Russians take the food from Ukrainians"?
Are you kidding me? Why the fuck I even have to explain that things to the user of conspiracy.win at all? Or may be you believe in Holocaust bullshit with that 6M Jews too? Or somehow Jewish lies about Holocaust have to be questioned, but same lies of same Jews about Russians and Ukrainians should not?
Really, it is very sad that somehow your critical thinking suddenly switch off completely, when things touch anything about Russia. It is interesting phenomena, however, and a clear proof that severe indoctrination of West population to false narratives began much earlier than many think.
Whatever, if you feel yourself more comfortable beliving in the blatant lies about a country on the other side of globe that was told to you buy exactly same persons who lied to you all way long about nearly everything, go ahead, I don't see any sense to try to change your mind. It is like trying to convince left kid from modern European school that "trans people" are just mentally ill, exactly like Napoleons contained in mental facility.
Haha WTF. Bleeding hearts propaganda. Not interested in that kind of critical thinking. About how the damned beavers were genocided by the Jews. Come on you're gonna have to do much better than the beavers.
Holodomor, Ukraine was still Russian. You haven't proved anything else. The point of debate was did Russia cause ethnic cleansing in Ukraine. Look at that, they actually did. Not bullshit.
I am not believing lies. I am gauging the probability. Something you have become very emotional about. It isn't critical thinking.
I am asking rationally why. Something we were talking about, until you started throwing bananas. Something I said I didn't want to partake in.
The probability. The obvious point of debate on your beloved landmark of Soviet engineering, was, was it operational. Not nonsense. Was it generating productivity? Was the overflow being vented producing electricity powering Russian territory. Not bullshit. Then you can claim the terrorism. I think you'll find it wasn't restored. Yes there are limitations in warfare. But it was seemingly expected. Because it was, it's no surprise. It's not a knicker twister where the poor beavers got genocided. It was an occurrence.
Now why? There are plenty of reasons and more put that probability higher Russian objectively, rather than Ukrainian provocation. Although their's could be similar. Although not for at the foreseeable future. Russia aren't launching an offensive there soon. They're defending and are still carrying out forward operations in Donetsk.
Jesus.
There was not such etnicity as "Ukrainian" and still it does not exist. You just can't create a new etnicity just in few generations, even if you will try hard.
Jews have nothing common with Russians and Russia.
It was Jewish Trotskists that created famine in Russia and perpetuated ethnic cleansing of Russians in Russia.
And after such statements you are talking about gauging probabilities. What is the point or use of gauging probabilities of the things you have absolutely no idea about?
Just like Ukraine. Russian authorities don't want, Ukrainian authorities can't.
So it is either an accidental consequences of previous Ukraine shelling, either it is Ukrainian revenge toward hated Russian population for humiliating elimination of weapons and manpower of Ukraine by Russian forces and so inability to demonstrate any kind of offensive to Ukraine's Western masters.
Of course you could count probabilites of alien UFO strike or Putin doing evil things because he is evil, or Kakhovka Nessy trying to break into Black Sea, but I don't see how they could be noticeably different from zero.
I know that, but I don't think they do? They're claiming they're from space.
Jews didn't create a famine in Russia. Idiots did. It happens in revolutions. It takes smarter people managing the farms not revolutionaries. They killed the land owners freeing the peasants and the crops went bad because there was also a solar medium.
But none the less. Genocide occurred.
It's not accidental if it's an occurrence. It's an occurrence because it was expected. It wasn't repaired. The overflow wasn't being vented, it was spilling, therefore it wasn't generating electricity. Because hydro dams, drain overflow, as they do, it powers the turbines, producing charge. It was spilling. It was no surprise that it could break. So it was expected.
Now do you understand the probability. Why could be for a number of reasons.
So you never visited a lock or a dam. Gate is for ships. Imagine what will happens with ships in a lock if you will level it opening gate. :) Water leveling in a lock is done through the exactly same mechanism with floodgates in the bypass channel.
Retard is one who did not even bother to find out how HPP dam made.
Uncuriosity should be a crime with long jail time.
Thread length limit, sorry, replying here.
Name a single Russian build dam that broke from overflow.
You bring your indoctrination even here. Gulag is abbreviation of "General prisoner camps directorate". There was no farms in control of that organisation at all. Prisoners mostly used for mining, building, sewing military uniform and other jobs. Farming was not among them. Maximum number of prisoners in all Gulag camps was around 2.5M in 1949 (as counted by anti-soviet pro-west Memorial organisation). How many prisoners in USA today? Then why that endless gulag stories have any fucking significance at all for anybody?
Jews did the revolution using Western money, and Jews created famine by their insane ideas of building communism Trotsky style. As soon as Trotskists was eliminated, suddenly USSR become pretty full country. Do you know that USSR cancelled food stamps after WWII in 1947? That rich and powerful Britain who never had a foot of German soldier on its territory had them until 1954.
So it is not idiots and it is not Russians. It is Jews.
If with Jews in power you have famine and deaths, and after eliminating Jews from power you suddenly get enough food and lowest death rate in history with same population and even same system, than it is definitely not BigFoot who is a reason of famine.
Why do you continue to tell nonsense?
Land owners was killed much earlier. Crops deviations are not rare thing in Russian climate and farmers are taking that into account and always sow some excess. The reason of famine was expropriation of all possible wheat and other grain including those that was intended for sowing, by that jewish provision squads. They expropriated it from everybody, from collective farms, from kulaks (individual farmers who had employees) and from individuals. Kulaks and individuals who tried to resist was killed. Kulaks was declared "anti-soviet elements" to make killing "legal" and individuals who resisted was declared "kulaks". All that ended with exterminating Trotskist Jews in power. Members of "provision squads" who didn't flee to the West as "tyrant Stalin victims" was also prosecuted.
Dams do not break because of spilling. And dam itself didn't break. It was damaged by shelling gates that broke.
Also, according to latest info, Ukrainians still hold gates on Dnepropetrovsk power plant dam fully open to make flooding as worse as possible. And they open them few days before the disater.
Also, interesting that Ukrainian military moving troops from occupied Kherson and Nikolaev areas to Donetsk direction to replace killed and wounded in senseless attacks.
What about probabilities now?
Did you ever been on any dam or at least at some lock for ships in artificial channel between two natural reservoirs?
How do you think water travel when a gate is half-open, and why do you think that there are no erosion in that case, but somehow it appears if water will flow over gate when it is fully closed?
Water flowing over gate top is a regular working mode. It does not matter in what position gate is, erosion is the same. And for the typical gate thickness and material, erosion is hardly in the top list of problems.
When the whole mechanism is damaged by the shelling, other things come into action, and even in that case erosion is not in the top of potential problems.
Well, then how you think ships move along Dnepr through all that dams?
Seriously, this is become boring now. There is nothing to talk about when you fall to your endless loop with beavers and ignorance without even little sign of attempt to find how things work really.
All in all, in any case Ukraine authorities completely controlled by the Western elites is the only ones who is fully responsible for that disaster. Either they damaged floodgates earlier and finally broke them rising the level using Dnepropetrovsk dam gates, either they torpedoed them directly when level rised enough to make disaster worse.
Well, at least West now have a topic for a whining about bad Russians and evil Putin, to distract audience attention from extermination of all that shitty NATO equipment and forces in completely failed Ukrainian "spring" counteroffensive.