It's official. I was right. Calling it now. I have for the past two or so years been discussing how there has been a shift in the community (this community + general conspiracy sites such as ATS, Reddit, LunaticOutpost, GLP, telegram, GA, 4fhan etc)
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It's mostly native ads. It seems like we are helping prop up a new kind of influencer....tim Poole, Scott Adams, etc...
They are the 'conservative' voice boxes, we are the 'grassroots' and 'fringe' and 'alt/extreme' etc.
Conspiracies are 'right wing nut jobs' when the left discuss it, and the 'left wing fascists' are when the right discuss it in the mainstream.
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We are essentially keeping the grift going, and providing the next talking points for the grifters.
Additionally, they then have their PR accounts used to link to one of their affiliates and this is the grift.
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They then support one another by saying 'if you want to learn more you gotta really look at @$hit7∆|53®' for the real details (but they have the same details lol - not more - just more focused perhaps...)
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Flat earth was a good example. It was immediately turned into a grift despite the argument so it may have some validity, but it doesn't matter because it follows the grift....so you cannot trust it.
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Everything is following the grift....anytime real stuff comes up...the grift is just used to deflect. It's incredible. The posts on this website get voted up and there is a mm of controlling the 'hotness' of posts. They push their garbage mostly to the top, and real posters get sidelined. This place is a wasteland yet you have use three different browsers, and a shit ton of tricks to see them all.....
Something will come after this. There is always some new situation brewing.
Do you really think the covid conspiracies are not going to be unfurling over the next 20 years?
Do you really think the cabal will give up pedo blackmailing? They'll either find a more quiet way of doing it, or create a new flavor of the same thing.
Do you really think the deep state will refrain from using digital currency?
The rise of technology has ushered in a dystopian future. Sadly we cannot imagine the world we're headed into.
We are and have always been able to control things but as a whole allow outside forces to control us. I think of it like this. What if every well taken care of dog in the world suddenly was flooded with news of hurt or abused other dogs and they all got depressed and demoralized even though their life had not changed. And then lots of dogs became lazy and unfit and sick and sad thinking of the other abused dogs. Then their puppies became sick and sad too and soon almost all dogs became fat and sad and no longer wanted to play. I believe this is what is happening to humanity (perhaps intentionally) with an overload of info. There will always be suffering. Be the light you want to see it helps way more than being demoralized. As silly as it sounds change starts with you. Someone passionate about something can stir passion in others. It’s good to know about plans and know that evil exists however if that evil becomes an obsession or fear perhaps they have won.
Definitely agree with this. We need to build up our future, rather than tear at our past.
tbf, I dont mind half your posts. Just about 50% of them I find to be problematic though, things like promoting the content about Vax issues....we have been around before this was a thing, called it out long ago. I feel like it's past the conspiracy....just kind of a circle jerk imo.
But I think we need to get to the next level.
This level has been completed but we have not found the next level yet...so we are wandering the level looking for tasks but none exist because we overlooked that we have finished this stage.
We need to realise that the game has us trapped and the secret is to get beyond this kind of thinking. It's a gameplay change and the strategies are different.
We figured out the goal, kind of like learning the major conflicts in a story and getting the main objective finally laid out.
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But it midgame-endgame time. Need to start to take what we have learned and set forth.
We know they want to have CBDC, Digital Ids, medical social credit systems, and setup limited hangouts and isolation for each group. They want to poke the bear and anger them all from the safety of their ivory towers while the chaos ensues. Meanwhile they will continue to profit because they still need money, and for the past 1000's of years have managed to control it. The internet allowed for them to get more influence but it came with the side effect of exposing them.
They made a mistake, and have spent 10+ years actively working to correct their mistake and to reclaim the internet completely (like a silent colonial land grab)
They succeeded for a short while and then they started to slip....it cost them a lot to get to that point so they tried to salvage it. They had managed to get a trial pilot with enough support due to Gates and others pushing hard to do it, so the goal was to lockdown on the economy and then corral them into the online world's they controlled. Once they had people online and disconnected, they can quickly reprogram them.
We saw this, alled it out and now we find out selves wondering what to do because it didn't work. But we were not supposed to stop it. Just call it out, isolate ourselves the same way, and then and only then can we realise that we have to go to the next level.
We need to see that they corralled us, but they didn't get us to walk the plank with the Judas goats....so we are still somewhat free....
We now need to reverse course, realise that they are braking up our barracks whilst we are out on the hunt and return to base, defend it, rebuild its defenses and launch our counter assault.
We will show the globalists how to build a real community that rejects their false premises and returns to our brothers and sisters in arms....or fellow neighbours in our homes.
We must start to build our culture actively now. We must promote what we desire. We are the builders of the next civilization....we are the architects that we be in the history books as those who spurred the greatest advancement and correction our society has ever seen.
We will emerge stronger and unified.
There are different cycles though. That is indeed a big and powerful cycle, but since we have survived it before, we will likely again.
We really should focus more on cycles in general. Everything follows them, yet they are not adequately discussed.
The exceptions are Fourier and math science for the most part in academics, but not applied to the greater social constructs.
The crises are always cycles, the generations that come and go too, but I prefer to think of myself as one of the rare ones who traverse cycles. A constant of sorts, a lower frequency, that can ride through the chaos of the now, that will emerge just as present in the next cycle to fulfill my part.
I am not a signal that is being eroded or decayed, I am signal which is rising and taking hold of the envelope of our future.
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How do I know this. Because I saw this coming and you did too, yet here we are. We didn't get affected thusfar except perhaps generating outlet own habits and cycles sometimes in a reactionary way. But for the most part, we have a deeper constant, one which steps back and asks what is coming from this.
"Everything flows out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right, is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates." — The Kybalion.
All influences do is draw lines in the sand to divide. It's all garbage
"If you believe in X ..."
Agreed.
I would say your defeatist mindset is a larger problem.
Just what is the point to this rant for example.
A nothing post about nothing at all but your feelings. Good job.
You act like your expectations of a forum such as this exceed logical boundaries.
This is a conspiracy forum, at best a place to locate some information, share website links and banter.
The worst type of posts to deal with on this site, are this type of post, where there is completely nothing at all of value or interest.
Looking at what kind of retards are here and they are people the closest to truth, why wouldn't anyone be defeatist ?
Just because we have our own echo chambers just like mentally ill lefties do doesn't mean we have ever won a single god damn thing ever.
99.9999% of the people doesn't even know a single conspiracy theory argument, they don't even know a 1% of it.
We are absolutely insignificant fucks, a random sand of grain in the desert, echo chamber is making people think that we actually are something.
Moon landing gets me the most, its so on the nose we never been there, you look at it from every perspective, any scientific angle, from any expertise position and its clear that they faked it.
NASA even admitted it and let it slip few hundred times.
Yet only thing anyone ever knows is some fake arguments about footprints and shadows in the pictures and CGI and shit.
People trust government agency that never produces any research or ever been peer reviewed.
On this one its been 50 fucking years, its been so long people are filling gaps on how it was possible with remembering back then with todays technology they never had in the 60.
What conspiracy theorists do about it ? Every discussion gets flooded with flat earthers that nobody invited.
And moon landing is so on the nose its would be the easiest win for conspiracy theorists, but as i said we are grain of sand in the desert. Fun fact most people here don't even believe or know it was faked.
Yeah i am being negative, but you are all actually worthless and as i said put yourselves in lefty like echo chamber same as lefties thinking that you are worth anything. I am just here to learn for myself, which is getting harder as every echo chamber turns into ''discuss todays events'' rather than anything actually useful, and when i learn i can move on with my life being worthless grain of sand in desert just like the rest.
How long until you actually get it ? 50 years ? 100 ? 200 ? 1000 ? I would screech like a baby if anything ever got achieved, but its not fucking happening.
Great post, I feel you have brought some value to this useless thread.
While you have hit the nail on the head with the whole moon landing bullshit, you go off a bit into the deep end.
For example, my ability to even read your rant here is proof of things being done.
When this fight started, thousands of years ago, It would have taken me generations to obtain your inputs. At this rate, change is inevitable.
I still think everyone has too many expectations for how a message board works. How what it does do materializes. It is not as you are implying.
Basically, everything is a seed planted and it takes time. People are learning about the criminality at a pace that has never been done before.
What you have to realize is the scale of the criminality has not really increased. It is the same, what has changed is the people are beginning to recognize it more readily. There are more learning's to come. I would not expect much instant reaction, it has to reach the crescendo before the critical mass reacts.
Don't say I am being defeatist and provide nothing but support in favour of the girfts I have mentioned.
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Guess what you are right. This is a Conspiracy site....the Conspiracies that are posted are 'ads' for influencers.....got it ..not real Conspiracies....just ads....lmao.
So I gave you a real Conspiracy....this one...the fact that you mostly parrot stuff for right wing news sites and promote ad affiliation....got it...
Summary:
HonestTruth, you are definitely part of the problem. You are a blind parrot for the 'right wing' ideas......it's like you get the script emailed to you...lmao.
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Its like the left wing parrots on here (less of them, but still around)
LunaticOutpost is Left Parrot Paradise....
ATS is GA lite....lmao
Ridiculous level of reading comprehension on your part here.
I said you have brought nothing worth communicating on and rant and complain about what you claim people post about and it's something you do not agree with.
And then you come and write this tripe. Clearly you are incapable of anything of value at all to suggest I am pushing anything like the stuff you listed. Garbage to say the least.
So, read em and weep son, when you look at my account you won't find any links to the crap you mention, you will find discussion topics such as the looming vaccine conspiracy coming unravelled, the west waging a hybrid war against the east. A corrupted western government being led by khazarian criminals. And of course the leftist mental disease stuff.
Not really sure which part of this you want to pin on the conservative crowd you mentioned, like I give a shit, these are not conservative issues, these are global issues facing each and everyone.
Not like your meaningless whining how nobody gives a fuck about your stupid flat earth belief.
This dude thinks fence sitters are conservative grifters lmao. The name checks so far out the 70s want their buzzword back.
Lmao. You misunderstood again. I was saying FE is a controlled psyop.....you really don't understand what I wrote. That's fair. But don't complain about my reading comprehension when you clearly cannot comprehend what I am saying. You then go ahead and proceed to list the main talking points of the Conspiracy community on the right........or conservative.....see my point. You are just a poster of the same circle jerk content. I made a post listing most of it for you btw....it's called TLDR: List
lol, you pretended like you think it is a psyop, you have a variety of ways brought it to the foreground, it is clearly at the top of your mind. Say what you really mean chickenshit.
Again, a nothing post about nothing claims diverting and straw man all the things in your reach.
You are really completely inept at what you are trying to accomplish here, you pulled out a list and try to reference me and my posts, yet not a single valid association is made.
Your entire thread is hogwash leftist mind numbing simplicity of complaintism, its pathetic and sad that this is what you have devolved to.
You should really consider putting something worth reading together, your entire post chain today is just abysmal.
Are you butthurt that nato is about to get whooped on or something?
Lmao. NATO? Wtf did you bring them in for?? Is that your daily shill post to spread?
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Sorry, but I don't post for you 😉 - I post for the few normal people who actually come here to not be brainwashed by your PR attempts. I get it...you get the moolah to promote division...but kinda boring and you aren't very good at it.
Frankly, you need someone like me to do this job right. Watching the few Chinese shills give up was nice, but then your whole crew, and the zionists .... It's a pain tbh.
But that's life. You will shill, I will call it out. CEST la vie
Again more evidence your account operator is just completely brainless.
Yes, chinese shill. indeed. Carry on kid.
Yeah, they are definitely opportunistic. It's really annoying. Because it's just extra work. And they obviously don't have scruples when you go grifting. I blame Qanon bullshit. I think that was the first viral grift.
Good. Never pay for anything in this space. Donate to the person, not the cause if you must and really want to support someone because then so be it, support the individual if you like them, but beware anything behind a paywall and never do it imo for access. Bad business this stuff. Real information is like WikiLeaks....free to all...hard to access for some, not too focused unless the person has devoted themselves to studying that thing and has the appropriate sacrifices as well as the wisdom....no one gets the information for free...what did it cost them.
Most of these grifters have the information...none of the scars, none of the sacrifices,.....why do they possess such info?
And if they seem to be focused on growing subscribers it is a job...so it needs to be treated like they have a boss telling them what to do. Anyone who has a business knows you always have a boss....maybe it's the customer, maybe it's your bank, your government, or an actual boss. In their case, the boss is information and they cannot give it away else they lost their job...so they will dangle it and trickle it and repeat it....some of them shamelessly because they work on 'views', 'subscribers' etc.
The views accumulate and they just need to get you hooked on the next drop so you come back and watch at least a little bit and aren't completely turned off.
The subscribers, they either have found people who are receptive to their formula or they have a stable number which will run up and down and they can again drip and drop some of their 'data' by mixing it like a bartender who is experimenting.
Anyways it's good you avoided spending the money.
Everything is just the flavor of the week with the right. Just as bad as the lefts’ “current thing.” Notice how no mainstream influencers/pundits whatever you want to call them, are talking about balenciaga anymore. Because then they would have to dig deeper and most are not willing to risk their mainstream reputation to talk about the real evil going on.
The problem is not discussing things with people in real life, and we all know why, buncha body snatchers out there
You're right,
There's an art to discussing the right things with the right people. It's easy enough to find the right audience on the internet, much more difficult IRL.
Nah that's just an excuse. In the thick of 2020 I was hearing the most random people discuss shit I would be digging on. The energy this one black dude was putting into his explanation for why bill gates is plotting evil shit was so refreshing to see. It got to the point where I didn't even have to engage with them and try to correct anything. The world was waking up.
People will straight up leave you if you try to talk to them about this stuff. I had it happen and eventually lost almost all of them, so I stopped talking about it and just moved along. I saw it as a two sided sword. You learn who people are and what they are like when it comes to treating you differently based on a sudden new bit of info. You learn who is trustworthy and who isn't, but the pain is real regardless. It hurts to lose people who you considered friends. Regardless of the truth. The pain is real.
Possibly. But I tend to still enjoy the past good time for what they were. I am not going to give those away too.
Violence and propaganda are their games. You won't beat them at their own games.
DAOs and employee owned businesses offer paths forward which provide non-combatant alternatives to the current system. If people adopt decentralization, the global power structures dissolve.
DAOs can profit share and pay employees more, offer products and services for less...
I think Dao's are part of the solution, but they need to overcome another problem which so far is something I don't think is solved by then alone.
Namely, they need to solve the problem of temporality. They need to fix the short term gains, and at the same time remove the long term (early bird) gains, and instead have a perpetual gain which doesn't profit anymore to a new member than an old member except what the members themselves bring to the system.
The best Dao' will be the ones which empower all the users of the network. Whether that be a small network or a large one is not important, but that value proposition is necessary.
Too many Dao attempts have the premise of stock returns and voting....not enough imo.
Yes, DAOs need to provide actual products and services. There's no real gain to be had in imagined wealth whether it's traditional fiat or crypto.
Mondragon is good inspiration for DAOs to consider. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation
The biggest hurdle IMO is physical infrastructure of our communications.
Yes exactly. Thanks for the corp to look into. Never heard of them, but yeah they seem to have some good foundations established and they are big!
I would say the issue is your expectation. I expect nothing to happen and then am happily suprised whenever something does.