Technical jobs are only good if the entire pyramid is stable enough to continue.
But if it is, then they are the best, you maintain the most value.
The next choice would be a trades job, As for electrician, It is not a terrible choice.
But I would likely select some form of steel/concrete work. welder/fitter/rigger can be very transferable. Carpentry is more important that one knows.
I think the most depression proof skill set would be small scale farming/ranching
Carpentry might work... thanks!! the rest are generally good ideas, too, but not for me as they seem a bit dangerous. I prefer low physical risk. ... I know a couple guys who were in the steel industry recently. Apparently the new hires are mostly retards who are work shy. The women and diversity also find ways to avoid work. Which makes sense - steel is apparently hard work, even for men so it would be especially difficult for women.
They always told me that younger generations are lucky in that their competitors are so useless. All you have to do is show the smallest amount of competence - or just do your job - to be promoted, lol. But then, working around retards means putting yourself at risk, too.
I already have the background in homesteading and animal husbandry and general medical care. I was looking at electricial knowledge because it is physically less demanding and it's good to be able to do that for yourself.
Maybe we should look at what became useful in Russia after the collapse, as well. 🤔 They probably used stills.
If men want to make good money right now, I know there is a shortage of truck drivers, septic workers (putting in septic systems, draining them etc). Also, probably stuff like the ice roads, lobster/crab fishing.
For women, I was also looking at esthetican school because even in the collapse (like on Survivor) women want to look good and value those that can make them look good. Plus, it's obviously super useful for yourself. I'm going to do chemical peels etc this winter but honestly, I'm not great at doing hair. It's something I really need to learn. 🤓 It seems as though most women don't know how to style hair, though, so
...
I was also looking at the death industry. I think in the short to mid term, being a death doula would be helpful and financially good. As long as the boomers still have money to blow. 😋🤫
I have known a few female electricians, it is still a tough job. Pulling wire is the role of the new entry in industrial setting. In residential it is pretty relaxing work in most cases.
Bunch of math to get out of school, so if that is your game then it is also a good choice.
Haircuts will probably be in higher demand than skincare, because men need them too. Midwifery also more needed than death doula. Life does go on... Lol
Bad skill was rancher/farmer in the great depression. They caused the great depression. The Great Depression started from the dust bowl. The dust bowl was caused by farmers changing traditional farming methods by expanding agricultural land, huge fields, much bigger, and using non traditional fertilisers. They hacked away at the land, deforesting, and changing it. Temperature soared, drought, and the dust and plagues of insects. Great depression followed. Vicious cycle. More farmland needed to make money. More dust and more crop failure. Bad skills.
Today it might be different. Except big droughts and insects hitting farmland presently and last year in the Mid West, West, North West?
Thank you for a good description. But didn't it force regulation. Had to adopt quotas, to try to make up shortfalls, later, rotation or what to grow? Or was that later, after ww2? Didn't a lot more land get seized as a result. It turned entire places into ghost towns.
It's not the first time the government has sold off some of the same region either. Wasn't there something recent in the Mid West? Offering cheaper land rights.
Well, it is something to consider. But, when I look back at 100 years of my family history, the farm kids did ok compared to city kids. Maybe they needed the city to make big money but there was always good food available on the farm. Maybe they were in areas without drought.
The Great Depression. Wasn't all farmers just a huge swathe of them in certain regions. This caused systemic supply line failures. There was dumb presidents, big shortages. Millions dead. Cannibals. The cannibals ate well.
This is absolutely incorrect. There is no basis at all for this false claim.
The farmland and its output had no relationship to the great depression at all. The great depression was an economic event associated to the stock market, it was preceded by collapsing businesses as the profit was extracted at a rapid pace, leading to costs of good exceeding consumer spending and further business collapse, eventually making it to the stock markets.
All the while, food production was sustained at acceptable levels.
The farming at the time was not some huge conglomerate and much of the food people ate was sourced much closer.
No, the 'dust bowl' event had nothing to do with farming practices as evidenced by the fact there was a significant series of events weather wise that led up to it. Primarily a clash between cyclical systems is the best explanation.
The fact that much of the area of the globe also experienced sever temperature shift is just more evidence. It was the sun, not man.
I know you are a complete warmist and believe all the bullshit about co2 being capable of warming the planet. Soon, you will gather enough information to correct the errors in your mind. There is no significant warming, nor has there been. Man did not create the dustbowls of the 30's and only simple minded people with lack of information would choose the accept that.
Small scale farming and ranching is your best path to self sustaining in a collapsing economical system.
It had everything to do with the Great Depression. Less traditional means of fertiliser. Like the fucking horse. All those cars. They expanded farmland rapidly. Expanded the fields, bigger they're using tractors. Temperature rose it wasn't entirely global either. But there was drought. There was insects and there was the dust bowl. It caused a viscous cycle. Where the shit kept going wrong. Yes the dust bowl caused it. Farmers caused the dust bowl. The temperature didn't help. But crop failure was due to changing methods.
lol, eat shit dumbass, It is like you have no recollection of prior conversations.
This tone has already been reached, I was about as nice as once can get with the dumbass ignorance you spread with your fear mongering wef lies.
You know nothing at all about anything, go ahead and blame shit you have no idea about. Your claims are useless drivel, made by imbeciles yet you choose to parrot that dumb shit even today.
What didn't you understand about the dust bowl. They changed to cars and tractors. From horse. When they did, what happened. Have a big fucking guess. They made much bigger fields, tractor. Drought occurred. The temperature was more or less localised and it wasn't entirely global. It rose, dust, drought, and insects. Over a decade was like this, idiots, and the great depression.
Dumber farmers caused it. There you are today. You're gonna pick it? No what? Learn to ride horse?
There is drought, fertilisers is like real expensive, so is gas, and there's insects. But you'll be this farmer, look at the cost of that food, automating more. They won't even employ you. You're a dumbass.
You're make a good point!!! Farming caused the depression. So makes sense that it'll be the cause of the next one!!! Would be a terrible industry to work in. Let's all stop farming and we can save the world from collapse!!! Keep food production in the hands of the government, big companies and people like Bill Gates. They saw this all coming and are very smart, so they should have things worked out for us!!!
But did it entirely. Or was it a larger machiavellian plot to seize farmland. Give them enough rope and buy the land up. The land was owned by the settler still. They worked it until it failed. It was the bigger result of any fallout.
Today they're pricing them out. Gates, has been buying it to automate it. And do whatever he does in the changes forced. Gas, fertiliser rising, like food prices, meanwhile drought, insects are also hitting home in the same regions.
I don't think you'll have much joy ahead there.
Your sarcasm isn't smart. What skills I said terrible skill in context to that event, that other idiot, had no idea, I provided some of that history. There was more. Big subject. But unless distribution, and supply, manage it better today. Instead of the above intent. There was that intent. Seizing the land. Your farm won't mean much. It'll just get raided. It will be subject to state quota. If we're comparing to that event.
Imagine the cannibals. They ate babies and children in the great depression. There you are on your farm and there are the cannibals. Trying to get the meat. Your farm with no seeds, gas, or fertiliser but a big field of the wilted crops. Hahaha. Some farmer, should have just joined the national guard.
Holy fuck kid, give your fucking head a shake, this endless bullshit filling your brain has to stop at some point.
You really have no fucking clue what you are suggesting, that the few years we created such a vast outcome that went away very quickly, how in the fuck is that possible in your peabrain?
This is ridiculous concept I am done with this bullshit beat it.
Sounds like a non-answer i know, but the only depression-proof job is drug dealer. No matter how fucked shit gets, the drugs will.certainly keep flowing and can be traded for literally ANYTHING..
There is a global decoupling going on, and much of the raw materials and manufactured goods that we've imported from Asia over the last 35 years are going to need to come from somewhere else. Domestic manufacturing, especially of essential steel and aluminum products (tools, industrial components, weapons, etc.), is going to become increasingly important because of this. if we go to war on a global scale, the economy will be mobilized, but you will still be able to make good money as a manufacturer in the leader and aftermath.
One of the great benefits of getting into manufacturing is that you can create some thing and sell it directly to consumers now, which means that you could be your own boss and your own distribution channel.
I would find a small manufacturer and get a job there, and earn a decent wage while learning the ropes, save my money, and then find a niche to start my own operation. I'd talk to other people in manufacturing and find out what they can't get quickly or consistently enough, and look into what it would take to make that for them and how much margin you can make. I know a boat manufacturer, and he's got a dozen different major components he can no longer reliably get, and so his $800k boats sit unfinished for 6 months at times. Most of these parts are fiberglass or aluminum and don't require a foundry or inaccessibly expensive setups to make (e.g., an aluminum gas tank).
Pick one hobby that you absolutely love to do, that isn't too expensive to continue, you can learn, enjoy and while it may not pay in "this world", it may pay and be useful in the "coming world". Example: herbalist / healer (you can start by learning off free ebooks, web sites, youtube videos, doing your own tinctures and experimenting on yourself and learning basics).
Pick one job you do NOT hate to do, but enjoy, and which most people are too lazy/dumb/afraid to do, and which is in rising demand in this world and more likely in the coming world. Example (not necessarily correct/true, hence the hedging): an electronics/mechanics handyman/electrician/fixer (knows how to repair computers, phones, electricity utilities, even electromechanical devices). Any professional career path that combines basic skills of repair trouble shooting, electrician skills and electronics practical skills would be a start for this. Then just start immediately offering your services locally, learn the trade, build your client base, don't be a slave to a one employer. You learn the best by doing.
Remember, nobody knows the future. Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Be ready for a long and bumpy transition.
Mortician is a career growing in demand. Along with casket, burial vault, and urn makers. Crematoriums need people to build them, run them, and maintain them.
Good luck getting into a trade, you'll need it. Been applying to jobs for 3 years, never could get into a real one. I now have experience in wiring and still can't get an entry level electrical position.
Building Trades are the leading indicator of the economy. They bust first, they boom first.
The ownership of rental property is consolidating away from individuals to corporates. How this will affect tradespeople is unknown, probably also consolidating small trades people into large collectives. That means the pie will be smaller.
It depends, though, on where you are planning to live as that's for the profitable city rentals.
HVAC might be a good choice and also acoustic insulation.
Technical jobs are only good if the entire pyramid is stable enough to continue. But if it is, then they are the best, you maintain the most value.
The next choice would be a trades job, As for electrician, It is not a terrible choice. But I would likely select some form of steel/concrete work. welder/fitter/rigger can be very transferable. Carpentry is more important that one knows.
I think the most depression proof skill set would be small scale farming/ranching
Carpentry might work... thanks!! the rest are generally good ideas, too, but not for me as they seem a bit dangerous. I prefer low physical risk. ... I know a couple guys who were in the steel industry recently. Apparently the new hires are mostly retards who are work shy. The women and diversity also find ways to avoid work. Which makes sense - steel is apparently hard work, even for men so it would be especially difficult for women. They always told me that younger generations are lucky in that their competitors are so useless. All you have to do is show the smallest amount of competence - or just do your job - to be promoted, lol. But then, working around retards means putting yourself at risk, too.
I already have the background in homesteading and animal husbandry and general medical care. I was looking at electricial knowledge because it is physically less demanding and it's good to be able to do that for yourself.
Maybe we should look at what became useful in Russia after the collapse, as well. 🤔 They probably used stills.
If men want to make good money right now, I know there is a shortage of truck drivers, septic workers (putting in septic systems, draining them etc). Also, probably stuff like the ice roads, lobster/crab fishing.
For women, I was also looking at esthetican school because even in the collapse (like on Survivor) women want to look good and value those that can make them look good. Plus, it's obviously super useful for yourself. I'm going to do chemical peels etc this winter but honestly, I'm not great at doing hair. It's something I really need to learn. 🤓 It seems as though most women don't know how to style hair, though, so ...
I was also looking at the death industry. I think in the short to mid term, being a death doula would be helpful and financially good. As long as the boomers still have money to blow. 😋🤫
I have known a few female electricians, it is still a tough job. Pulling wire is the role of the new entry in industrial setting. In residential it is pretty relaxing work in most cases.
Bunch of math to get out of school, so if that is your game then it is also a good choice.
Almost all of the shortages you hear about are BS. Truck driver, trades jobs, fishing boats. Ask anyone that's been applying for jobs lately.
Haircuts will probably be in higher demand than skincare, because men need them too. Midwifery also more needed than death doula. Life does go on... Lol
Bad skill was rancher/farmer in the great depression. They caused the great depression. The Great Depression started from the dust bowl. The dust bowl was caused by farmers changing traditional farming methods by expanding agricultural land, huge fields, much bigger, and using non traditional fertilisers. They hacked away at the land, deforesting, and changing it. Temperature soared, drought, and the dust and plagues of insects. Great depression followed. Vicious cycle. More farmland needed to make money. More dust and more crop failure. Bad skills.
Today it might be different. Except big droughts and insects hitting farmland presently and last year in the Mid West, West, North West?
The idiot down voting should study history.
Thank you for a good description. But didn't it force regulation. Had to adopt quotas, to try to make up shortfalls, later, rotation or what to grow? Or was that later, after ww2? Didn't a lot more land get seized as a result. It turned entire places into ghost towns.
It's not the first time the government has sold off some of the same region either. Wasn't there something recent in the Mid West? Offering cheaper land rights.
Well, it is something to consider. But, when I look back at 100 years of my family history, the farm kids did ok compared to city kids. Maybe they needed the city to make big money but there was always good food available on the farm. Maybe they were in areas without drought.
The Great Depression. Wasn't all farmers just a huge swathe of them in certain regions. This caused systemic supply line failures. There was dumb presidents, big shortages. Millions dead. Cannibals. The cannibals ate well.
This is absolutely incorrect. There is no basis at all for this false claim.
The farmland and its output had no relationship to the great depression at all. The great depression was an economic event associated to the stock market, it was preceded by collapsing businesses as the profit was extracted at a rapid pace, leading to costs of good exceeding consumer spending and further business collapse, eventually making it to the stock markets.
All the while, food production was sustained at acceptable levels.
The farming at the time was not some huge conglomerate and much of the food people ate was sourced much closer.
No, the 'dust bowl' event had nothing to do with farming practices as evidenced by the fact there was a significant series of events weather wise that led up to it. Primarily a clash between cyclical systems is the best explanation.
The fact that much of the area of the globe also experienced sever temperature shift is just more evidence. It was the sun, not man.
I know you are a complete warmist and believe all the bullshit about co2 being capable of warming the planet. Soon, you will gather enough information to correct the errors in your mind. There is no significant warming, nor has there been. Man did not create the dustbowls of the 30's and only simple minded people with lack of information would choose the accept that.
Small scale farming and ranching is your best path to self sustaining in a collapsing economical system.
Shut up. That is not the way you address anybody.
It had everything to do with the Great Depression. Less traditional means of fertiliser. Like the fucking horse. All those cars. They expanded farmland rapidly. Expanded the fields, bigger they're using tractors. Temperature rose it wasn't entirely global either. But there was drought. There was insects and there was the dust bowl. It caused a viscous cycle. Where the shit kept going wrong. Yes the dust bowl caused it. Farmers caused the dust bowl. The temperature didn't help. But crop failure was due to changing methods.
Now fuck off.
lol, eat shit dumbass, It is like you have no recollection of prior conversations. This tone has already been reached, I was about as nice as once can get with the dumbass ignorance you spread with your fear mongering wef lies.
You know nothing at all about anything, go ahead and blame shit you have no idea about. Your claims are useless drivel, made by imbeciles yet you choose to parrot that dumb shit even today.
It is retarded. You need mental health help.
You're a fucking dumbass. The dumbest ass.
What didn't you understand about the dust bowl. They changed to cars and tractors. From horse. When they did, what happened. Have a big fucking guess. They made much bigger fields, tractor. Drought occurred. The temperature was more or less localised and it wasn't entirely global. It rose, dust, drought, and insects. Over a decade was like this, idiots, and the great depression.
Dumber farmers caused it. There you are today. You're gonna pick it? No what? Learn to ride horse?
There is drought, fertilisers is like real expensive, so is gas, and there's insects. But you'll be this farmer, look at the cost of that food, automating more. They won't even employ you. You're a dumbass.
You're make a good point!!! Farming caused the depression. So makes sense that it'll be the cause of the next one!!! Would be a terrible industry to work in. Let's all stop farming and we can save the world from collapse!!! Keep food production in the hands of the government, big companies and people like Bill Gates. They saw this all coming and are very smart, so they should have things worked out for us!!!
But did it entirely. Or was it a larger machiavellian plot to seize farmland. Give them enough rope and buy the land up. The land was owned by the settler still. They worked it until it failed. It was the bigger result of any fallout.
Today they're pricing them out. Gates, has been buying it to automate it. And do whatever he does in the changes forced. Gas, fertiliser rising, like food prices, meanwhile drought, insects are also hitting home in the same regions.
I don't think you'll have much joy ahead there.
Your sarcasm isn't smart. What skills I said terrible skill in context to that event, that other idiot, had no idea, I provided some of that history. There was more. Big subject. But unless distribution, and supply, manage it better today. Instead of the above intent. There was that intent. Seizing the land. Your farm won't mean much. It'll just get raided. It will be subject to state quota. If we're comparing to that event.
Imagine the cannibals. They ate babies and children in the great depression. There you are on your farm and there are the cannibals. Trying to get the meat. Your farm with no seeds, gas, or fertiliser but a big field of the wilted crops. Hahaha. Some farmer, should have just joined the national guard.
Holy fuck kid, give your fucking head a shake, this endless bullshit filling your brain has to stop at some point.
You really have no fucking clue what you are suggesting, that the few years we created such a vast outcome that went away very quickly, how in the fuck is that possible in your peabrain?
This is ridiculous concept I am done with this bullshit beat it.
Blocked dumbass.
In a real depression, even the trades suffer.
True, but it is probably better to learn something useful now
Plumber.
Electricity might not always be with us, but people gotta poop and they want it to get out of their house so it doesn’t stink.
So true
And the prize for the best (and most gruesome) answer goes to....
Same job.
Human trafficker, I would wager, is always in demand.
Until we get rid of them all, which I hope will be soon.
Sounds like a non-answer i know, but the only depression-proof job is drug dealer. No matter how fucked shit gets, the drugs will.certainly keep flowing and can be traded for literally ANYTHING..
Lol, thinking about South America, you might be correct.
Beekeeper.
Good idea. But I think they are aiming to put mrna in the mites that bite the bees to produce the honey. So have to watch out for that.
Plumbing even, the Romans had plumbing. Might not seem great but we die without sewers and clean water.
I think manufacturing is the right answer.
There is a global decoupling going on, and much of the raw materials and manufactured goods that we've imported from Asia over the last 35 years are going to need to come from somewhere else. Domestic manufacturing, especially of essential steel and aluminum products (tools, industrial components, weapons, etc.), is going to become increasingly important because of this. if we go to war on a global scale, the economy will be mobilized, but you will still be able to make good money as a manufacturer in the leader and aftermath.
One of the great benefits of getting into manufacturing is that you can create some thing and sell it directly to consumers now, which means that you could be your own boss and your own distribution channel.
How would one start in manufacturing? Thanks
I would find a small manufacturer and get a job there, and earn a decent wage while learning the ropes, save my money, and then find a niche to start my own operation. I'd talk to other people in manufacturing and find out what they can't get quickly or consistently enough, and look into what it would take to make that for them and how much margin you can make. I know a boat manufacturer, and he's got a dozen different major components he can no longer reliably get, and so his $800k boats sit unfinished for 6 months at times. Most of these parts are fiberglass or aluminum and don't require a foundry or inaccessibly expensive setups to make (e.g., an aluminum gas tank).
Hedge it.
Pick one hobby that you absolutely love to do, that isn't too expensive to continue, you can learn, enjoy and while it may not pay in "this world", it may pay and be useful in the "coming world". Example: herbalist / healer (you can start by learning off free ebooks, web sites, youtube videos, doing your own tinctures and experimenting on yourself and learning basics).
Pick one job you do NOT hate to do, but enjoy, and which most people are too lazy/dumb/afraid to do, and which is in rising demand in this world and more likely in the coming world. Example (not necessarily correct/true, hence the hedging): an electronics/mechanics handyman/electrician/fixer (knows how to repair computers, phones, electricity utilities, even electromechanical devices). Any professional career path that combines basic skills of repair trouble shooting, electrician skills and electronics practical skills would be a start for this. Then just start immediately offering your services locally, learn the trade, build your client base, don't be a slave to a one employer. You learn the best by doing.
Remember, nobody knows the future. Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Be ready for a long and bumpy transition.
Mortician is a career growing in demand. Along with casket, burial vault, and urn makers. Crematoriums need people to build them, run them, and maintain them.
I was thinking about this!
And I wonder how we could safely invest in this industry. The stock market doesn't look very safe...?
Good luck getting into a trade, you'll need it. Been applying to jobs for 3 years, never could get into a real one. I now have experience in wiring and still can't get an entry level electrical position.
Building Trades are the leading indicator of the economy. They bust first, they boom first.
The ownership of rental property is consolidating away from individuals to corporates. How this will affect tradespeople is unknown, probably also consolidating small trades people into large collectives. That means the pie will be smaller.
It depends, though, on where you are planning to live as that's for the profitable city rentals.
HVAC might be a good choice and also acoustic insulation.