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Biden's Tech-War Goes Nuclear - The End of western domination in technology has begun (www.unz.com)
posted 3 years ago by HonestTruth 3 years ago by HonestTruth +10 / -2
Biden’s Tech-War Goes Nuclear
“Lots of people don’t know what happened yesterday. To put it simply, Biden has forced all Americans working in China to pick between quitting their jobs and losing American citizenship. Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconducto...
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– King_of_Crazy 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

If anyone believes this will stop China's tech advances in their tracks, I have a golden Buddha made of horse shit to sell you.

Who is responsible for expanding 5G worldwide?

China. Not US.

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– HonestTruth [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Right? And worth pointing out, they have 6g deep in the pipe already.

Ever been to hong kong? it is like a future city, rendering all western cities like dark ages in comparison. So when it comes to deploying technology, they are already leaps and bounds ahead.

People have no idea which information is relevant it seems.

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– King_of_Crazy 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Also, on 6 Nov 2020 China launched a 6G satellite into orbit, running on terahertz waves.

Oh, we have China on the tech ropes, huh?

China sells electronics to the military bases with enhanced back door surveillance apps.

Oh, but Biden cut China's throat.

That is some crazy ass mental gymnastics hopium for copium right there.

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– HonestTruth [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

heh, well. One more important piece is gonna land also.

So USA cuts china off access to the chips they produce in taiwan.

heh.

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– King_of_Crazy 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Still bothered by the world debt clock numbers?

Bidens move was premature, just as with his energy transition.

Putting the cart before the horse.

Screw China and their chips! We can't fill the vacuum...but we will in five to ten years!

Let's go Brandon!

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– RonaldMcGoCart -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Ez to put backdoors on IC chips with billions of field effect transistors on them

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– RonaldMcGoCart -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

How do they work zero post score insult bot fucking piece of shit.. Are you even for real? Again.. HOW DO THEY WOIRK where am I wrong?

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– RonaldMcGoCart 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

You're damn right.. And I want you to post about WHY I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT MY INTERNET POINTS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH!

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– Leporidae 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But does it seem like a future city because people can stream 8K videos to their phones, or because they don't have belligerent democrat policies running around defecating in the streets?

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– TallestSkil 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

the end of western domination in technology has begun

Nowhere does it say that. And why would anyone believe it? Whites invented everything.

Every American executive and engineer working in China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry resigned yesterday, paralyzing Chinese manufacturing overnight. With the new Biden sanctions, all American suppliers of IP blocks, components, and services departed overnight – thus cutting off all service [to China]. Long story short, every advanced node semiconductor company is currently facing comprehensive supply cut-off, resignations from all American staff, and immediate operations paralysis. This is what annihilation looks like: China’s semiconductor manufacturing industry was reduced to zero overnight. Complete collapse. No chance of survival.

Sounds like China got hurt, not us.

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– Mad_King_Kalak 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

China invented a lot of stuff, like gunpowder, then didn't do much with it.

I'm not sure why unz of all places is starting up with this "China is our ally" stuff, when a few short years ago most alt media sites were on the Trump train about China eating our lunch with currency manipulation and manufacturing outsourcing. Just as a way to criticize Biden?

I think elites of both parties have come to understand that there's less money to be made with advocating for "free trade" with China, and they do actually represent a legitimate threat to their slice of the pie.

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– HonestTruth [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

At first glance, I can see why one would think this.

I does not matter who invented a thing, often just the idea of it is all it takes to iterate your way there.

This is the end of western technical dominance because the entire reason for the dominance is the spread of the materials around the globe.

The production systems scale on that side of the world coupled with the total amount of people surplus they have suggests that as they continue to upscale production they will consume our entire machine.

Realize, all of this is just for making money.

Take a look at Russia for a good example. The processor they have kicks the shit out of the intel stuff, yea sure its not as small yet, so not as fast? but.. it is already capable of much more. So once they scale it down over the next decade or so, it will likely become the worlds top chip.

Cutting china off access to our chips, means they will make their own and just ask yourself given the scale and funding how long it will take to surpass.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Whites invented everything.

Yes. Invented and handled rigth to Chineese, who are not as good in inventing things as whites but fucking good of replicating and polishing up things invented by others.

Since there was no any significant inventions since 1970 (for "strange coincidence" this was year when West semiconductor manufacturers suddenly began to outsource chip manufacturing to Asia), only polishing technologies, there is nothing Western inventors could offer to Chineese anymore.

So, that engineers was nothing more than the last stand that prevented massive replication of Western chips in China. Chineese don'n really bother about IP rigths or licenses crap. Some adhering to intellectual property laws was only a manifestation of respect to western engineers, nothing more. Since there are no more western engineers, what stops China from mass producing every single important chip replica? Nothing. Meet all that latest Lntel Zeons (do we already have them? Tons of extremely cheap, but perfectly working Xeons on aliexpress), Nwibia GPU's and other stuff that will kill any domestic western chip production without building total Iron Curtain from withing West.

And no, China will not suffer from loosing Western market. There is Asia, Russia, Africa and South America who will gladly buy all that Chineese chips to advance in development and gaining independence from Western companies who proved themselves as unreliable partners that could easily break any contract if some woke government official issue some stupid sanctions against own country. And forementioned customers will pay China with valuable things, not some fiat shit nobody will want to accept at the time.

If you thought that West could lost semiconductors manufacturing because China will take over Taiwan, you was wrong. It was Biden administration who make that happen with yet another completely dumb sanctions move. And pushed USD closer to the crash.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And no, China will not suffer from loosing Western market

How retarded a claim. I look forward to watching your precious Chinese starve to death if the West ever does cut them off.

And forementioned customers will pay China with valuable things, not some with some fiat shit nobody will want to accept at the time.

lol, imagine being so naive.

If you thought that West could lost semiconductors manufacturing because China will take over Taiwan, you was wrong.

I’m sorry; could you restate this? I don’t fault you for your confusing English, but I can’t respond without knowing what you really mean here.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Name me anything West could offer China, that is critical for China survival and what China could not buy somewhere else.

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– TallestSkil 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Name me anything West could offer China, that is critical for China survival and what China could not buy somewhere else.

Food. I dare you to tell me the rest of the world is capable of feeding itself and 1.6 billion chinks.

I won’t even bother saying a market since you’re clearly too stupid to understand that china only exists due to having an export market in the first place, and you’re stupid enough to think that Africa, Asia, and Latin America can afford to keep china in the black without Western imports.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Food

Seriously? :))) As far as I know, West still buying food even from that evil Russia they are in war with. What food West could sell to China, if West have no enough food and have to buy food even from enemy?

I won’t even bother saying a market

And what China receving in exchange? Fiat money backed with nothing and printed without any limits? Why do you think that China still really interested in USD/EUR after all world got a undeniable proof that USD/EUR is unreliable and at any time anybody could loose all his USD/EUR shit, just because some faggot in USA didn't like that you don't teach you kids to change gender and fuck into the butt?

West itself killed one thing that could win China attention - reserve currency. Because China could by all it need for that currency. Today, China clearly see, that it can't buy Russian steel, gas, oil, aluminium, whatever for that "reserve currency". Russia did not need it. Tomorrow, some Argentina will not be allowed to use that "reserve currency", than India, and so on.

So, a single stupid thing of reserve currency owners already kill that "Western market".

West have nothing to offer for China. Absolutely nothing.

China don't need your paper to buy food anymore. Yuans, Roubles, Argentinian peso, Iranian reals, and so on much more preferrable for buying food now.

If you somehow was chilling in some refrigerator and missed what happened in the world, than, I have bad news for you. USD/EUR fucked up. Completely. Point of no return already passed, and you can't ungrind forcemeat back into the decent steak.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What food West could sell to China, if West have no enough food and have to buy food even from enemy?

Thanks for admitting you know nothing about global shipping.

And what China receving in exchange?

thanks for admitting you know nothing about global finance, too.

Fiat money backed with nothing and printed without any limits?

Oh, just like the Yuan?

Why do you think that China still really interested in USD/EUR

Because a billion of them will starve to death otherwise.

West have nothing to offer for China. Absolutely nothing.

Okay, enjoy watching your pet chinks literally eat each other when they can’t get food from the West.

China don't need your paper to buy food anymore.

They do, yeah.

Yuans, Roubles, Argentinian peso, Iranian reals, and so on much more preferrable for buying food now.

Except those can’t get China enough food.

USD/EUR fucked up. Completely.

Yes. But that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with China’s ability to be independent of a global financial market.

Point of no return already passed

You’re way more optimistic than me.

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– CrazyRussian 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for admitting you know nothing about global shipping.

Global shipping could perfectly exist without any shitty London scammers with their insurances and other shit. It could perfectly exist without West at all. Why do you think that people of Earth will not find a new solutions for any possible problems if West will disappear from global shipping?

Oh, just like the Yuan?

No. There is huge difference - Yuan was never used as weapon. So, despite being fiat, just like any other currency in the world, it was not used to force somebody to eat barbeque with chineese sticks. May be just yet. Or may me Chineese are smart enough to not destroy their currency.

Because a billion of them will starve to death otherwise.

Chineese eat paper and bits in western banks computers? Hardly. I think they eat plants, fish, meat and seafood. JFYI, f.e. China import 24% of beef from mostly from Brasil, Argentina, Urugway, Australia and New Zealand. And those kind of Western countries, Australia and New Zeland are already not a top exporters as they were in the past, Brasil and Argentina outbeat them few years ago. China began to buy beef from Russia, reducing Australia and New Zeland part even more.

Yes. But that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with China’s ability to be independent of a global financial market.

Global financial market is a scam and should be completely destroyed for the sake of humanity survival. All who played and cheated on that "market", all that brokers and traders should hang on the lightpoles.

There should be global commodities market, where only manufacturers and consumers should be allowed to trade and each deal should be closed only after physical shift of commodity from seller to buyer. No any small-hat dicks who sell each other nothing for billions playing on self-inflicted instability.

All that imbecile jewish "financial" scam should fuck off, and when all that stock tossing scammers with their fucking swindle will think that they comletely fucked off, they should continue to fuck off further until they fuck off to the infinity.

You’re way more optimistic than me.

I'm not optimistic, I'm just engineer. I know how things work. :)

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

World order is falling apart... This is what I'm saying about the WEF stuff.

I understand what you’re saying; it’s just not true.

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– HonestTruth [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

lol, you basically have no idea what you are talking about. Let me rephrase your statement for you:

"USA just cut its legs off by removing largest market for its crap. Also now largest market must make its own crap to replace the now missing crap"

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– HonestTruth [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

lol, ok.

I would be happy to take the time to educate you on your lack of understandings. Would it have any value? would it be a waste of my time?

I am guessing yes.

Let's just start with this: China launches satellites, rockets, hypersonic, 5g, 6g and none of this stuff requires parts from taiwan.

When usa is launching sattelites and rockets (dont have hypersonics) or shoving 5g (no 6g) they are using parts from taiwan.

So to that end, china also has the capability to drop on taiwan and say 'if I cant have it, noone can'

There is a ton of moving pieces you do not seem to be willing to consider.

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– King_of_Crazy 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

We are there because we outsourced our manufacturing base.

We also outsourced our R/D base there as well.

To say they can't make chips is ludicrous.

Hell, Macintosh computers were made in China in the 80's.

40 years later and you think they can't make chips?

That dog don't hunt.

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