The real conspiracy: Flat earth is a psyop -- Sott.net
TMR Editor's Note: There is perhaps no greater Internet-wide PSYOP than the CIA-directed Flat Earth Conspiracy (FEC). This covert black operation has London's notorious Tavistock Institute written all over it. The Millennium Report has posted...
Who started the theory of FE? Who perpetuates it? Why is it being constantly socialized alongside communities discussing known conspiracy practices?
AFAIK, founder of Flat Earth Society (1956) was, suddenly, also a member of Royal Astronomical and Royal Geographical Societies of Britain. You know, all that strange British aristocratic stuff. I think it was some kind of British psyop, may be developed as an attempt to discredit upcoming USSR space program, may be as a tool of "poisoning a well" against "unwanted" scientific research, or may be as experiment on population conditioning.
IDK, but seems that this shit comes from UK agencies.
That stuff significantly declined in mid-70s, and was nearly dead until sudden reborn in late 90s, as peasants become regular internet users. Authorities meet with a threat of uncontrolled exchange of ideas, knowledge and theories, so they ressurect almost dead "Flat Earth" to mitigate the risks. At that time, I think, it was mostly US agencies job of "poisoning a well".
As far, as I remember, that shit was noticeably deployed for the first time on the scientific boards where Einstein relativity was questioned. In a few days after discussion start (yes, internet discussions lasted months or even years at the time) there appeared few new users without any other posts that began to push flat earth nonsense, ruining discussion. Later, they never post anything even if were not banned.
Interesting, that at the same time conspiracy and UFO boards was not a target for flat-eathers. Only scientific boards. May be their masters thought that conspiracy theories and UFO stuff looked fringe enough to not bother. But today, when nearly every conspiracy theory becomes proven fact in matter of months, they are everywhere.
But what is the point!?
Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of math and physics (let alone able to intelligently discuss the flaws of Einstein's general relativity) give an instant eyeroll to that stupidity.
Internet forums with young teens and Qtard boomers are the only people that can even be swayed by it...
IDK, but possibly the cutting of further development. Since 1970s there was no any breakthrough inventions and discoveries at all.
I am confused, what do you mean no breakthroughs or inventions since the 70's?
In what field, exactly? Because there have been countless breakthroughs and inventions since then in pretty much every field.
Wait, please tell me you don't mean in the flat earth cult... but that doesn't fit, they haven't had a "new discovery" since 1492 when Columbus did not, in fact, sail off the edge of the world.
Name me a single invention or discovery made after 70s that is similar in significance to, say, laser, semiconductors, nuclear reactors, etc.
In all of them.
Name me single one that is not just technological improvement of things invented/discoveried before 70s.
Quantum Computing? Nano-scale material manufacturing (looking at you graphene). I even heard from some previous customers that getting their hands on this stuff, even with real money, is nearly impossible.
I wonder if not just the speed of inventions is down but if things are being suppressed? They sure have not stopped but it is nothing like the speed of advances from before.
The proposal is from 60s. Started from "quantum coding" of 1968. All we have now is just techological improvements without any useful results.
F.e. from idea of laser to the mass manufacturing and usage less than a decade passed.
Humanity using nano-scale materials from the ancient times. Concrete is nano-scale material made with use of cement nano-particles. Artists using pencils create pictures from graphene nano-particles for millenia. And so on. Just there was no need to use that stupid marketing bullshit.
So name me one that did not yet exist in one or another form before 70s.
Oh, I get what you are saying now, but why set the year at 1970?
The internet is just an evolution of the telegraph, which is just an evolution of semaphore, which is just an evolution of smoke signals and so on if one wants to put it that way...
No, internet is evolution of digital data transmission that was invented and developed in 50s-60s.
Good Intel thanks. The theory of relativity part seems plausible. I've noticed a lot of psyops tied to preserving this theory. I suspect military has figured out some antigravity tech or some time dilation tech (eg. Philadelphia experiments).
I'm not so sure. How do we explain simple things such as direction a toilet spins or that the sky spins in N vs S hemisphere using a FE model? Why would all celestial bodies including the moon be spherical? My observations don't confirm FE.
Don't bother to engage. He still believes the sun is Ra's chariot...
Why don't people that counter flat-earth ever do their fucking homework:
Garbage article, anyone that has taken even a basic dive into flat earth could answer these. I'm not saying whether the earth is/isn't flat. what i'm saying IS DO YOUR FUCKING HOMEWORK
Well here’s the long and short of it. None of the people talking shit about this topic have ever been in space. They’re just on the NASA bandwagon and have no firsthand knowledge about anything. NASA was started by a paperclip Nazi. Why would anyone trust anything they say? Who gives a shit what shape it is. Why trust NASA at all?
I'm receiving realtime pictures of Earth from Russian satellites without any problems. Without any NASA, Internet, YouTube, whatever.
Those who don't want to do their own research could whine about lying NASA for decades doing absolutely nothing except copying flat-earth crap here and there again and again. Is it some kind of boring job?
Yes, our government pays people to post online in order to support propaganda or, in this case, to discredit truthers.
Take a used satellite dish, $20 RTL-SDR USB dongle, used 3G irradiator, some coaxial cable and any PC you have around. Receive realtime perfectly curved full-globe images of rotating Earth every 15-30 minutes from GOES/FENGYUN/Electro satellites with resolution 4km/px (or even 1km/px) that allow you easily compare cloud pattern over your head with one you see on the fresh image.
You are so concerned about shape of Earth, why don't you do anything to resolve that so inportant to you problem?
Try to do something, instead of dumb copypasting stupud and false statements. Are you so handass, that anything more than Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V is something unachievable for you?
Show me a plane that could fly 7.5km/s at alsitude 800km or in case of geostationary at 3km/s at 35000km. And only then come back.
I'm fucking with that fucking 8 inches per mile each time when I have to establish long-range radiolink between two points. All that fucking masts and roofs to go above that fucking curvature. Oh, how I want the Earth be flat - put antennas above the trees, and get unlimited range. But no, that fucking Earth is round as fuck, and you have to build high towers and masts for fucking miserable 30km.
So, don't even try to tell me about how you can't measure Earth curvature.
Shut the fuck up, take a laser and go to lake or river and measure your curvature as long as you wish. Also, you could measure distances using any long-range ToF device between 3 distant points and sum the angles of measured triangle. Suddenly, you will inevitably get more than 180°.
I can. It is you who can't find out anything by yourself and continously copypasting dumb shit.
You personally did absolutely nothing to find out the answer on the question you so concerned about. Why?
Astronomers figured out the shape of the earth centuries before the idea of space flight even became a remote possibility.
Funny that one shill here is calling reality a Jewish psyop whilst you are a shill calling it a Nazi one!
Again who gives a shit what shape it is? The astronomers these days say it’s an oblate spheroid. Not a round fucking blue marble. Who cares? It makes no difference to my life what shape the earth is or what it is at all. The reality is that NASA was started by a Nazi. Everything they produce, say, or do should be questioned.
What about political affiliation has any effect on building rocket engines? Obviously Von Braun managed to build them, so being a Nazi must not have much of any corollary to engineer capacity aside from the fact that the Nazis had superior engineering to anyone else throughout most of their war effort.
I would be more worried about Nazi leaders who founded the CIA and the EU, which directly relate to the evils of their political systems.
It’s government, it’s all political. If you think that NASA is a purely scientific agency shielded from the effects of political bureaucracy, corruption, and lies you should spend some time looking into NASA. A smart Nazi is still a Nazi and just as capable of evil as any other Nazi. How does the ability to build rockets prevent you from faking a moon landing? Or prevent you from lying about space missions to get contracts and launder money? Or prevent you from lying about the shape of the earth? This is a conspiracy forum! Nazis in space should make everyone here think twice!
The conspiracy of NASA in those days was that it was political cover to make the public amenable to massive spending on ICBM and other defense research. The moon landing crap also made for good propaganda.
This is a conspiracy forum, "Nazis in space" belongs on a creative writing for idiots brainwashed by pop-culture forum. If you actually think that is in any way real or relevant you are an idiot and need to stop playing video games and reading 4chan.
Also, the "Nazis evil!" propaganda makes no sense whatsoever when actually examined objectively: they were no more or less evil than any of the other countries or political systems in place at that time, and they killed less people than either the Communists (who win by almost a billion person margin) or the USA and Europe (whose genocides of Native Americans had not definite number but is suspected to rest around 10 million and the taking of an entire hemisphere from them.)
Ironically, in the 1930's when the Nazis were rising, their racial superiority beliefs were not controversial and pretty much mainstream thought among Europeans and Americans. What was controversial were their socialist policies and collectivist economic and political theories. Today, this is completely reversed, except, ironically, for Israel which pretty much practices the NSDAP ideology except with Jews as the chosen race.
Yeah, you’re making my points for me. The idea of NASA as a scientific organization is fake as fuck! And the Nazis were fucking idiots just like the Americans that started Eugenics. I’m glad we agree. I get it, you love Nazis, Nazis probably have a moon base on Uranus. But they did in fact do evil shit. Yes they were just as evil as everyone else. Who cares? The point is they are not to be trusted at all. If they say something is true, presume the opposite.
If you are European, Yggdrasil the World Tree was the accepted understanding for aeons, not some Discworld as written about int the TORAH
Looks like someone might be trying to alleviate their cognitive disonance.
The FEd psyop isn't just to demonize conspiracy theorists, it's covering up something
https://communities.win/c/HollowEarth/p/15JTtuCWZs/built-for-the-fuhrer-in-another-/c
That Aryan people are descendants of the tall "Nordic" extraterrestrials. Did you know there are pyramids in china? Why do they cover those up? Because they were built by fair haired giants
Feds push globe lie along with jews and wikipedia. It becomes to obvious when you call someone a fed for agreeing with wikipedia.