What about political affiliation has any effect on building rocket engines? Obviously Von Braun managed to build them, so being a Nazi must not have much of any corollary to engineer capacity aside from the fact that the Nazis had superior engineering to anyone else throughout most of their war effort.
I would be more worried about Nazi leaders who founded the CIA and the EU, which directly relate to the evils of their political systems.
It’s government, it’s all political. If you think that NASA is a purely scientific agency shielded from the effects of political bureaucracy, corruption, and lies you should spend some time looking into NASA. A smart Nazi is still a Nazi and just as capable of evil as any other Nazi. How does the ability to build rockets prevent you from faking a moon landing? Or prevent you from lying about space missions to get contracts and launder money? Or prevent you from lying about the shape of the earth? This is a conspiracy forum! Nazis in space should make everyone here think twice!
The conspiracy of NASA in those days was that it was political cover to make the public amenable to massive spending on ICBM and other defense research. The moon landing crap also made for good propaganda.
This is a conspiracy forum! Nazis in space should make everyone here think twice!
This is a conspiracy forum, "Nazis in space" belongs on a creative writing for idiots brainwashed by pop-culture forum. If you actually think that is in any way real or relevant you are an idiot and need to stop playing video games and reading 4chan.
Also, the "Nazis evil!" propaganda makes no sense whatsoever when actually examined objectively: they were no more or less evil than any of the other countries or political systems in place at that time, and they killed less people than either the Communists (who win by almost a billion person margin) or the USA and Europe (whose genocides of Native Americans had not definite number but is suspected to rest around 10 million and the taking of an entire hemisphere from them.)
Ironically, in the 1930's when the Nazis were rising, their racial superiority beliefs were not controversial and pretty much mainstream thought among Europeans and Americans. What was controversial were their socialist policies and collectivist economic and political theories. Today, this is completely reversed, except, ironically, for Israel which pretty much practices the NSDAP ideology except with Jews as the chosen race.
Yeah, you’re making my points for me. The idea of NASA as a scientific organization is fake as fuck! And the Nazis were fucking idiots just like the Americans that started Eugenics. I’m glad we agree. I get it, you love Nazis, Nazis probably have a moon base on Uranus. But they did in fact do evil shit. Yes they were just as evil as everyone else. Who cares? The point is they are not to be trusted at all. If they say something is true, presume the opposite.
Yeah, you’re making my points for me. The idea of NASA as a scientific organization is fake as fuck!
I do not think you understand that it is the exact same science to make space rockets as it is to make ICBM rockets. *I am not in any way saying NASA is not a scientific organization, I am saying that the actual objective at that time was to disguise military applications of research and funding as being civilian applications.
I get it, you love Nazis, Nazis probably have a moon base on Uranus. But they did in fact do evil shit. Yes they were just as evil as everyone else. Who cares?
What are you doing here instead of reddit!? You fit the hive mind brainwashing from there perfectly in your inability to use objective reasoning and asinine black and white moralization. Nazism is just another socialist ideology that failed to take off the way communism did, it is over, they are gone, you needn't obsess over them so much when there are actual authoritarian regimes still in power actively trying to accomplish what the Nazis never did. Of course, it is easier to tell about ghosts of the past than address the threats in front of you.
The point is they are not to be trusted at all. If they say something is true, presume the opposite.
Except they had a significant technical ability and advantage for most of WWII, their weapons and materiel of every type was superior to any other country's. This is not even disputed, the soldiers who fought them stated this. That is also why the US and USSR were in a mad frenzy at the end of the war to grab as much of their research and scientists as they could before the other did.
Edit: also, since you say you must believe the opposite of anything Nazis said, here are some things they said:
The workers of a country should receive a liveable wage, government assistance to obtain housing and provide for their family if needed and free healthcare. (They were socialists afterall)
There should be a priority placed on protecting the environment from pollution and exploitation that would threaten it.
I assume you disagree?
Or will you admit that, like every other government in history, good ideas are mixed with destructive ones, and there is not one single example that is magically pure evil like in a fucking superhero movie for idiots?
What about political affiliation has any effect on building rocket engines? Obviously Von Braun managed to build them, so being a Nazi must not have much of any corollary to engineer capacity aside from the fact that the Nazis had superior engineering to anyone else throughout most of their war effort.
I would be more worried about Nazi leaders who founded the CIA and the EU, which directly relate to the evils of their political systems.
It’s government, it’s all political. If you think that NASA is a purely scientific agency shielded from the effects of political bureaucracy, corruption, and lies you should spend some time looking into NASA. A smart Nazi is still a Nazi and just as capable of evil as any other Nazi. How does the ability to build rockets prevent you from faking a moon landing? Or prevent you from lying about space missions to get contracts and launder money? Or prevent you from lying about the shape of the earth? This is a conspiracy forum! Nazis in space should make everyone here think twice!
The conspiracy of NASA in those days was that it was political cover to make the public amenable to massive spending on ICBM and other defense research. The moon landing crap also made for good propaganda.
This is a conspiracy forum, "Nazis in space" belongs on a creative writing for idiots brainwashed by pop-culture forum. If you actually think that is in any way real or relevant you are an idiot and need to stop playing video games and reading 4chan.
Also, the "Nazis evil!" propaganda makes no sense whatsoever when actually examined objectively: they were no more or less evil than any of the other countries or political systems in place at that time, and they killed less people than either the Communists (who win by almost a billion person margin) or the USA and Europe (whose genocides of Native Americans had not definite number but is suspected to rest around 10 million and the taking of an entire hemisphere from them.)
Ironically, in the 1930's when the Nazis were rising, their racial superiority beliefs were not controversial and pretty much mainstream thought among Europeans and Americans. What was controversial were their socialist policies and collectivist economic and political theories. Today, this is completely reversed, except, ironically, for Israel which pretty much practices the NSDAP ideology except with Jews as the chosen race.
Yeah, you’re making my points for me. The idea of NASA as a scientific organization is fake as fuck! And the Nazis were fucking idiots just like the Americans that started Eugenics. I’m glad we agree. I get it, you love Nazis, Nazis probably have a moon base on Uranus. But they did in fact do evil shit. Yes they were just as evil as everyone else. Who cares? The point is they are not to be trusted at all. If they say something is true, presume the opposite.
I do not think you understand that it is the exact same science to make space rockets as it is to make ICBM rockets. *I am not in any way saying NASA is not a scientific organization, I am saying that the actual objective at that time was to disguise military applications of research and funding as being civilian applications.
What are you doing here instead of reddit!? You fit the hive mind brainwashing from there perfectly in your inability to use objective reasoning and asinine black and white moralization. Nazism is just another socialist ideology that failed to take off the way communism did, it is over, they are gone, you needn't obsess over them so much when there are actual authoritarian regimes still in power actively trying to accomplish what the Nazis never did. Of course, it is easier to tell about ghosts of the past than address the threats in front of you.
Except they had a significant technical ability and advantage for most of WWII, their weapons and materiel of every type was superior to any other country's. This is not even disputed, the soldiers who fought them stated this. That is also why the US and USSR were in a mad frenzy at the end of the war to grab as much of their research and scientists as they could before the other did.
Edit: also, since you say you must believe the opposite of anything Nazis said, here are some things they said:
The workers of a country should receive a liveable wage, government assistance to obtain housing and provide for their family if needed and free healthcare. (They were socialists afterall)
There should be a priority placed on protecting the environment from pollution and exploitation that would threaten it.
I assume you disagree?
Or will you admit that, like every other government in history, good ideas are mixed with destructive ones, and there is not one single example that is magically pure evil like in a fucking superhero movie for idiots?