Point 3. you answered with point 2. Refraction is not something that can bring a solid object back into view. It can on the other hand obscure the view of a solid object.
If the earth was flat then placing a meter stick in two places 500 miles apart would create the exact same length of shadow. And it doesn't. And we can take the ratio between shadow lengths and literally calculate the size of Earth's sphere. Just like we first did in 1600.
Fuck off outta here with this flat earth horseshit.
The results would depend on the position and distance of the light source, like a flood light vs spot light. The reason the shadow lengths are different is because the light source is not hitting the objects at the same distance, location. The sun travels on a trajectory and its small and close, so two locations yield different shadows unless on the same latitude.
No retard, I have seen with my own fucking eyes. Lunatic.
what about all the videos from 20 miles up, and you still see a perfectly flat horizon
Do you mean this photo that shows a nice curve on our wonderful ball and not a flat disc? You fucking 1/2 wit imbeciles never can show the whole disc at the same time, now can you? Twat.
As opposed to air sitting on a flat disc without flying away? Yo, dip shit-- molecules have a mass pulling towards the center of our big ball. How much of a moron do you have to believe the shit you think? You are literally the laughingstock of the internet. You and your other moron minions. Go look yourself in the mirror and say "I'm a fucking moron"
Fuck wit. Why can't you see the entire flat disc with these photos? If the earth was was flat you absolutely could, it would be 100% illogical if you could not. Otherwise, the far away land masses are falling beyond the curve of the earth which is what you are seeing. The moon is far away, yet I see it, hec, I have seen Saturn with my own eyes, so does France just disappear because of the atmosphere or 'perspective' - lol
So you are another feeble 1/2 wit who can't understand the horizon appears flat because the earth is fucking huge. The funny thing is that it really is not flat on those images, I can see a slight curve on the last few images, so why don't you go jerk off with the other flat-brain morons and enjoy your flat fantasy world dip shit.
Yes, I am condescending but only to those that are brain-dead low IQ, zero education empty bags of mostly water with no real intelligence.
conspiracies...not delusions....you can believe this, provided your math is checked, doubled, and rechecked again...How about instead of screenshots....you write an article, or better yet a proper esssay./......and citations, methods, and some supporting results....
Cool. So I literally flew around the world with my father who is an airline captain. Got to see how all the navigation works while sitting up front with him, taught the fuel calculations, and see the whole trip from Canada to UK to India to Australia back to Canada. Left Canada travelling one direction: east. Guess where we ended up. Not off the edge of the world, but back in Canada. You fucking Muppet.
You want me to show a career pilot who circumnavigates the globe for a living why he's been wrong for 30 years in his navigation and fuel calculations.
let's make it easy... and just assume i am able to build a 128 mile tall building.
let's also also assume my building is 128 miles wide and deep.
basically a huge block that is 128 miles in every direction.
yes? are you with me?
OK now let's paint this massive block the colors of the rainbow....
20 mile tall band of red at the top; and then...
20 mile tall band of orange; and then...
20 mile tall band of yellow; and then...
all the way down to a 20 mile band of purple at the bottom.
now... hold my hand, and let's take a walk.
if we walk 1000 miles away from my 128 mile tall/wide building:
science says: you will not be able to see this building any more - not even with a strong zoom lens.
flat earth says: you can see 100% of the building with a strong enough zoom lens.
but what if we walk only 500 miles away from my 128 mile tall/wide building -- half way....
science says: you will be able to see half the building - specifically... just the red and the orange and the yellow. i.e., the top half - not a small version of the whole thing... THE TOP HALF will be visible.
yes?
no zoom lens necessary :) that thing is huge. like seriously huge.
flat earth says: you can see 100% of the building with a strong enough zoom lens.
i am saying... without a zoom lens ...half will be visible . and half will be hidden.
do you agree?
you're saying... half will be visible without a zoom lens - and the other half will be visible with a strong enough zoom lens?
at 500 miles, you are saying 100% will be visible?
so... from a tall enough vantage point - empire state building, for example, you can see someone on the shores of the UK -- if only you had a strong enough zoom lens?
is that what you are saying??
like ... someone on the shores of australia could see someone on the shores of alaska... because water always finds a level... if only you had a strong enough zoom lens.
you believe that?
and you also believe there are no satellites
and space doesn't exist.
does the moon exist, or is the moon an illusion?
i'm still trying ti figure out if you guys believe in geometry or not...
You said no clear images of light refraction exist, so I showed you one thus, demonstrating how you are 100% unequivocally wrong. You can't even understand my responses to your asinine statements.
You are a jack ass saying things are this and that. You have just been handed clear evidence you don't know jack shit, so stop embarrassing yourself.
His entire world view is based on the idea that "the establishment" has lied about everything. If even one thing turns out to be true, he has to actually start evaluating statements for truth, and that's a bridge too far.
..... refraction which can invert the whole image, distort it....convert it to a mirage like image....blur it....act like a light BENDING device ..... And zoom...
Just humor me....
Could you not have a lense which itself curves........around a sphere....mm.....what would happen if light was shines on it....but the refractive index was enough to cause a critical angle ....
Earth isn't a perfect sphere.
You're not accounting for refraction.
Point 3. you answered with point 2. Refraction is not something that can bring a solid object back into view. It can on the other hand obscure the view of a solid object.
yes, i am aware of this...
i am talking about atmospheric refraction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction#/media/File:Atmospheric_refraction_-_sunset_and_sunrise.png
well, there are several exceptions to this rule of thumb, but yes - basically... if something is not in view then generally it cannot be seen.
sorry, i am missing your point.
If the earth was flat then placing a meter stick in two places 500 miles apart would create the exact same length of shadow. And it doesn't. And we can take the ratio between shadow lengths and literally calculate the size of Earth's sphere. Just like we first did in 1600.
Fuck off outta here with this flat earth horseshit.
dont even try to claim "trigonometry" or ANY mathematics or scientific calculations. you are ALL wrong. every flat earther.
also, doing experiments with quarters and stuff in your basement doesn't prove anything either
They refuse to do it too. They post screenshots, and memes and think they are fucking newton.
and you dont have a brain. you think thinking to some fuckin weirdo on a stream that goes "hurr durrr not possibleee hurr durr" is factual.
No… that just tells you the Sun is small and local. Anyone who has spend time north of latitude 60 understands the Sun is local.
Try placing two meter sticks inside of a room with a single light source 5 meters apart, and see if your thesis hold up.
Idiot.
Blessed be you.
The results would depend on the position and distance of the light source, like a flood light vs spot light. The reason the shadow lengths are different is because the light source is not hitting the objects at the same distance, location. The sun travels on a trajectory and its small and close, so two locations yield different shadows unless on the same latitude.
OP is a low-IQ fag. Doesn't know what light refraction is. Go read some books you twat.
No retard, I have seen with my own fucking eyes. Lunatic.
Do you mean this photo that shows a nice curve on our wonderful ball and not a flat disc? You fucking 1/2 wit imbeciles never can show the whole disc at the same time, now can you? Twat.
https://www.wired.com/2009/03/kids-send-a-cam/
As opposed to air sitting on a flat disc without flying away? Yo, dip shit-- molecules have a mass pulling towards the center of our big ball. How much of a moron do you have to believe the shit you think? You are literally the laughingstock of the internet. You and your other moron minions. Go look yourself in the mirror and say "I'm a fucking moron"
I love how flat earthers went from "pictures from the moon are fake" to "look at these high altitude pictures".
https://www.flickr.com/photos/meteotek08/albums/72157614847488964
This is the album from the flight
Which of those pictures looks like a globe to you
Flat horizon, every picture
Fucking condescending retard
Fuck wit. Why can't you see the entire flat disc with these photos? If the earth was was flat you absolutely could, it would be 100% illogical if you could not. Otherwise, the far away land masses are falling beyond the curve of the earth which is what you are seeing. The moon is far away, yet I see it, hec, I have seen Saturn with my own eyes, so does France just disappear because of the atmosphere or 'perspective' - lol
So you are another feeble 1/2 wit who can't understand the horizon appears flat because the earth is fucking huge. The funny thing is that it really is not flat on those images, I can see a slight curve on the last few images, so why don't you go jerk off with the other flat-brain morons and enjoy your flat fantasy world dip shit.
Yes, I am condescending but only to those that are brain-dead low IQ, zero education empty bags of mostly water with no real intelligence.
“Can never show the whole disc”
Show me the whole “globe” guy
Embarrassing
OK...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1qQZbTF8iQ
https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/ESRS/HDEV/
https://www.google.com/search?q=images+from+space&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjj2-C0s4T6AhXXpokEHaoKAVYQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1680&bih=845&dpr=2
You’re pathetic
Embarrassing logic
You must be a shill
No way you’re this fucking stupid
Oh gee, you make me nervous. Are you going to send me 'facts' about your flat earth? Lol, all you FE clowns are such pathetic losers.
Light doesn’t refract 30,000 feet ahahaha.
Lewr Iqz derm Fegz.
the mountain in the OP isn't 30,000 feet high dip shit. Fucking clown.
ahhh here we go. the daily flat earth insanity -_-
ffs give it a rest
conspiracies...not delusions....you can believe this, provided your math is checked, doubled, and rechecked again...How about instead of screenshots....you write an article, or better yet a proper esssay./......and citations, methods, and some supporting results....
Ever been in a fucking plane before dumbass?
Cool. So I literally flew around the world with my father who is an airline captain. Got to see how all the navigation works while sitting up front with him, taught the fuel calculations, and see the whole trip from Canada to UK to India to Australia back to Canada. Left Canada travelling one direction: east. Guess where we ended up. Not off the edge of the world, but back in Canada. You fucking Muppet.
You want me to show a career pilot who circumnavigates the globe for a living why he's been wrong for 30 years in his navigation and fuel calculations.
Amazing.
oh is OP a flat earth dummy ? LMAO
trying to figure out if it's AI or other
ok...
how many miles away... would it take to hide a 100 mile tall building -- according to science™ ?
thank you.
let's make it easy... and just assume i am able to build a 128 mile tall building.
let's also also assume my building is 128 miles wide and deep.
basically a huge block that is 128 miles in every direction.
yes? are you with me?
OK now let's paint this massive block the colors of the rainbow....
20 mile tall band of red at the top; and then...
20 mile tall band of orange; and then...
20 mile tall band of yellow; and then...
all the way down to a 20 mile band of purple at the bottom.
now... hold my hand, and let's take a walk.
if we walk 1000 miles away from my 128 mile tall/wide building:
science says: you will not be able to see this building any more - not even with a strong zoom lens.
flat earth says: you can see 100% of the building with a strong enough zoom lens.
but what if we walk only 500 miles away from my 128 mile tall/wide building -- half way....
yes?
no zoom lens necessary :) that thing is huge. like seriously huge.
i am saying... without a zoom lens ...half will be visible . and half will be hidden.
do you agree?
you're saying... half will be visible without a zoom lens - and the other half will be visible with a strong enough zoom lens?
maybe not in beijing but whatever... yes... a super clear day :)
yes fine fine a vaccum - whatever you need bro...
interesting. so...
do you believe there is an "edge" ? like... if you sail to the edge of Earth (or fly or walk or whatever) then... you'll fall off into space ? :)
i'm just chatting
but seriously, i think you missed my point.
at 500 miles, i am saying half will be visible.
at 500 miles, you are saying 100% will be visible?
so... from a tall enough vantage point - empire state building, for example, you can see someone on the shores of the UK -- if only you had a strong enough zoom lens?
is that what you are saying??
like ... someone on the shores of australia could see someone on the shores of alaska... because water always finds a level... if only you had a strong enough zoom lens.
you believe that?
and you also believe there are no satellites
and space doesn't exist.
does the moon exist, or is the moon an illusion?
i'm still trying ti figure out if you guys believe in geometry or not...
/science built the internet -- and you're on it
Crazy the amount of globe bots in here REEEEing like a bunch of crayon eaters.
Its just a couple. You can count them on one hand
your calculator doesn't account for refraction.
find one that does, and get back to us with some updated calculations.
Shouldn't need to say this, but you're a half, nay, full-on fuck-wit.
https://twitter.com/rainmaker1973/status/1325085267489923072
You said no clear images of light refraction exist, so I showed you one thus, demonstrating how you are 100% unequivocally wrong. You can't even understand my responses to your asinine statements.
You are a jack ass saying things are this and that. You have just been handed clear evidence you don't know jack shit, so stop embarrassing yourself.
He can't.
His entire world view is based on the idea that "the establishment" has lied about everything. If even one thing turns out to be true, he has to actually start evaluating statements for truth, and that's a bridge too far.
Mirages are upside down too, aren't they?
A lens is formed by the air and water between.....so you can have a lens do all sorts of things.
..... refraction which can invert the whole image, distort it....convert it to a mirage like image....blur it....act like a light BENDING device ..... And zoom...
Just humor me....
Could you not have a lense which itself curves........around a sphere....mm.....what would happen if light was shines on it....but the refractive index was enough to cause a critical angle ....
Explain to me how fiber optics works then?
if it's perfectly clear then obviously you can see it.
duh
refraction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction#/media/File:Atmospheric_refraction_-_sunset_and_sunrise.png