Please provide any images of space you believe are real. This can be images of Earth, other planets, satellites, ISS, far side of the moon, Tesla in space etc. But it has to be pictures that cannot be produced from earth or a spy plane at high altitude. Personally I think all planets are shitty CGI, all moonwalking footage was in a Hollywood studio, mars is simply devon Island Canada with a red tint. We have thousands of satellites in space (allegedly), so we should have clearly real photos of just about everything in our solar system, in addition to live streams and video. Hopefully we can debate the credibility of some pictures/video.
PS Flat Earth Society is a government psyop meant to mislead anyone looking into this issue, so real Flat earthers will not share their claims.
Im gonna give this a try.
I had to brush up on a few things and read some different viewpoints.
But initially there was only one full image picture of the earth, the blue marble or whatever. But there have been plenty taken since then.
I will admit however, they do look like composite images. Why? Because its overlayed onto a black background.
I tried to find some evidence for this particular thing, since OP didnt provide much other than some vague statements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvHYO_9Nqxw
This person's main argument is the lenses they use and something else. Pretty weak. But I am fairly certain it can be explained with how they were trying to map the planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIID5FDi2JQ
But, there are, many, many other planets we can see.
http://www.skyimaging.com/astronomy-videos.php
You can easily replicate these yourself with some medium level amateur equipment, and if youve never used a telescope, I recommend it just for shits and giggles. The site even does you a favor and tells you what the shots were taken with. Of course you cant get shots like these in the suburbs or anywhere close to a metro.
I guess my thoughts come down to this really.
Is it more likely that we are in some simulation type of experience where the life force of this universe is expressing itself?
Or that a singular god would create individual planets and a moon and a flat earth, just to give us what exactly? Some pretty lights to look at? Perhaps the lights up there are the souls of people who have passed.
I am genuinely curious how most flat earthers feel about this. I suspect if your religious, youll just accept it on faith, something that I cant do.
I am again, more likely inclined to believe the ancients.
That is the people/beings who created the horoscope and responsible for the knowledge required to build something like the great pyramid.
Who knows though :/.
Good response, thanks for taking it seriously. I'm sure you can see that all the planets are made by graphic disegners including earth. Considering they say we have thousands of satellites and sent probes to other planets, we should have clearly real photos and video. There is no rational excuse to lack this content. They guy who did the blue marble photo is literally known as Mr blue marble, its ridiculous.
Most flat earthers will simply tell you the planets are simply wandering stars as the ancients call them. They are non terrestrial objects. There is no proven consensus on what they are, but they are local, thousands of miles at maximum. The stars and wandering stars, and sun and moon all function like a big celestial clock rotating at different rates. It's beautiful, keeps time, and can be used for navigation.
I am a biblical flat earther meaning I that cosmology appears correct to me. However I came to believe in flat earth because of the scientific proofs I found. I grew up a Christian but never even realized the Bible describes a flat domed earth with a firmament above. However, I met flat earthers that were atheist, and could no longer deny God because they know the earth is designed for us. I never even bothered giving flat earth enough attention to even laugh at them until I realized nasa lies about everything, I mean everything.
No flat earthers believe space exists as described by modern scientism. I think of it as more of a Realm. And though I think the firmament is at the limits of the encircling ice (Antarctica), none of us know for sure because it's forbidden to explore there privately due to the Antarctic treaty, and logistically difficult.
To introduce yourself to flat earth concepts and have questions answered I recommend Eric dubay, and OddTV. Also the flat earth clock app by blue water bay is great for giving you visuals of the earth, sun, moon, stars, and seasons on flat earth. It also has video archives that will answer any question u can imagine. I'm not trying to sell the app, it's just the best database I've found.
As for the Pyramids and many other ancient structures, I believe that was from the Nephilim (human/fallen angel hybrids) who were destroyed in the world flood that all the ancients have legends of. They were giants and had advanced knowledge and intelligence, and they subjugated humanity and led them away from God, and into human sacrifice, depravity, and satanic worship.
Why do you need somebody to provide you satellite images? Just receive tons of them directly from satellites by yourself with $20 USB RTL-SDR dongle. Antenna will depend on band you want to receive. With 137MHz band you could easily use even 2stick antenna from old TV (V-dipole).
The point I'm trying to make is that any picture of venus, Jupiter, earth, satellites in space etc... is computer generated and not a genuine photo.
Take a cheap telescope and observe all that things with your own eye. Make your own genune photos if you wish. Satellites and ISS are little tricky, they are moving fast, so to make a good picture you need a motorized telescope mount.
I have no doubt there are luminaries I can observe, I've even viewed them through the telescope of a private observatory. I simply have never seen a real photo taken by a satellite or probe in space. Considering we have satellites that Google mapped all of earth (actually done by high altitude planes), it should not be hard to view images that are not computer generated. We even sent probes to every planet in the solar system (except maybe mercury?) So we should have real pictures of these. So if you find any real images taken by satellite/probe, let me know.
I already told you. It is $20 RTL-SDR dongle, antenna made from any suitable garbage and some willing to really get that images. You will receive a continous stream of images of Earth surface made by weather satellites (NOAA, Meteor, MetOp, FengYun) from altitudes of 800km and higher. GOES, GK, Electro-L satellites continously translate whole Earth images from geosynchronous orbit. Absolutely not hard to get all that stuff directly from satellites.
As for images of planets in solar system and if in doubt about NASA, look for a pictures from USSR probes.
Why not? I don't see any technical problems to do what USSR did in space. There was no NASA in USSR. And I never ever heard about anybody who at least tried to debunk USSR space program. There are tons of material about lying NASA, but none of that kind about Russian space program including Moon and interplanetary missions.
None of those are a live image of earth, they are computer generated composites from sensors all over earth. If any of them were real images you would be able to look at high definition clear images of a ball earth, which u cant.
Did you tried to receive them? Do it, then try to explain why anybody will fake an image made from 800km altitude in realtime and then relay it to satellite on polar sun-synchronous orbit with 800km altitude to broadcast it back. Especially at times of orbit correction when satellite lose direction and show you horizon instead of surface.
That is exactly what GOES, GK and Electro-L satellites transmiting continously to anybody who are not a lazy handassed moron who don't even try to find out how things really work.
I can and doing it. You can too. But it seems you just don't want to.
Dear lord please stop with this shit...
Even if it was true (spoiler: it's not), it's the least constructive sort of topic. I have to believe the influx of posts about flat earth, race baiting shit, clone and/or tranny accusations is the disinfo agents finally catching up here. I would ban all this retarded shit if I ran this place...I'll take the chance I'm burying the earth-shattering conspiracy surrounding Biden's ear lobes
If I'm full of shit, it's an extremely simple challenge I posed and you should be able to prove me wrong by simply using a search engine. Yet everyone who has replied so far won't partake in the challenge. And if you can't figure out why they would lie about something as fundamental as our cosmology, you deserve to be a NWO slave. If we live on a flat domed earth as the Bible and dozens of pre-modern cosmologies suggest, then everyone will have to acknowledge our creator, and that we are not some accident resulting from the big bang. The big bang theory and evolution are designed to make us nihilistic, atheists, with no understanding of our souls or divinity. This is why everyone is falling for NWO control of their lives, and satanic immorality like pedophilia and altering the sex of children. All the problems we have right now would be solved overnight if people knew our satanic world leaders were trying to hide God from us.
Who cares. This topic is such a waste of time
here are 4 other private satellite imaging companies:
https://www.l3harrisgeospatial.com/Data-Imagery/Satellite-Imagery/High-Resolution
https://satellogic.com/products/
https://www.maxar.com/products/direct-access-program
https://www.satimagingcorp.com/
take your pick... choose your satellite... order specific images... or even live sat video, in some cases.
don't believe me? place an order - satellite imaging on demand.
ps. let me guess... all fake - even though they claim to use satellites, they use planes, not satellites - it's a huge hoax. everyone is in on it... is that about right?
Dude, I checked out all sources and I would call out all of it. Wish I could point it out in person. If you have a image or video from any of those sources you find to be authentic, then link that specifically. I'm sure when you reviewed these websites you noticed things such as obvious cgi satellites. I'm not screwing with you, I'm trying to break your programing. Seriously watch that ISS video I sent you, the scam is so obvious if you just suspend your disbelief.
ok so you believe that each one of those companies:
is lying about their satellites
is really just using planes
knows the truth - that the earth is flat
.... because you think it it looks like CGI.
and therefor, general physics as we know it is completely wrong -- you say -- with a completely straight face -- as you sit there mashing away on the internet -- built with general physics.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
no thank you.
please explain a lunar eclipse*
Wow, TWO videos for that contrivance, whereas reality can be explained with a 3 second .gif...
Also, in reference to the second one... the guy is clearly an idiot... he sat there and proved it to himself that a sphere wil always cast a curved shadow but yet... didn't get it.
Lol, no. Despite his studies in art, he doesn't understand the basics of modeling (or physics but that is not a surprise...)
For one, it is utterly stupid to use a corner. Next, he was correct that the pop-sci hacks he specifically chose to cite said things incorrectly; a sphere will always cast a curved shadow, not a circular one (which is obvious, and which is the only shape he managed to produce). Even if the shadow is oblong or whatever, it is always curved and not angled.
Next, the guy doesn't understand modeling a shadow: he should use some approximation of scale... say a softball for earth and a ping pong ball for the moon is roughly the correct ratio. Then, you need to hang them at the scales distance from each other and the sun. It would be very difficult to get a light bulb that would approximate the sun's size relative to these but a strong light source at a scaled distance will work.
When set up correctly not haphazardly like a moron, he would see that the shadow is the shape of the "earth" ball and rather uniformly curved.
You can try it yourself rather than trusting that idiot.
Now, the things that one cannot understand the proofs of without actual knowledge of physics and higher math that you can't get on YouTube or a blog, is that the electromagnetic characteristics of the earth's dipole field can only be created by a (the) rotating sphere (model of the earth as is well understood). I will leave it at this because if you were impressed with those videos, this stuff is waaaaay above your IQ level.
Again, he paid absolutely no attention to scale and distance which is specifically how he did it. If he had made any attempt to approximate this (in the way I mentioned above) it would have ruined his trick, which is precisely why he did not attempt it. Lucky for us, the sun is not randomly being held right against the earth's surface...
Source: "Trust me bro, I saw a couple YouTube videos."
The thing is, you can actually do electrical field experiments even if you can't do the calculations, instead of this brain-rotting dross, look up primitive electrical method... a hundred years ago this was done by random people twisting wires and spinning magnets in their shops.
Ooooor go out and crank your car, the fact that it starts is thanks to an alternator working on a similar theory... BUT! If you spin a magnet under a flat plate of copper, you will not generate stable, sin wave electrical fields... it dosn't work.
However, if you spin a magnet in a cylinder of copper (in the most rudimentary construction) you will start to get them. If you twist strands of copper wire into a semi-spherical shape around the magnet, as in said alternator, you will get even more stable fields. The motion of the field, which can be seen in various ways will tell you the shape of the object generating the field.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation
See what you can parse of it (for honesty's sake, I am a mechanical engineer, but i design ventilation systems and have not done any of these calculations since college and doubt I could still do the proofs for them). Follow links about the history of electricity. You will find early stators used a rotating disk, and unsurprisingly could only generate a field of force spinning away from it like water off of a bike tire.
Looking through this would be much better for your brain than watching idiots dupe you and play you for a fool with their stupidity and (quite honestly) purposeful psychological manipulations of the gullible.
Or go ahead and call this stuff bullshit while using an electronic device that would not exist if it were bullshit and play the fool for your (((masters))). "It's all bullshit because an ancient, Semitic text made a non-specific attempt at explaining a cosmos they did not understand just like every other ancient culture did, but I choose to die on this specific hill!!!"
I will if you provide a photo as requested in this post.
Sure! Hang on while I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on rocketry equipment... moron. I can't take a picture of wind either, but I can throw leaves in the air and prove it indirectly... much like a lunar eclipse allows one to indirectly observe the earth's shape.
Active topic.
I am not going to flat earth, but I am annoyed there is no good imagery of all this stuff and the OP has a valid complaint when it comes to graphics designers running all the images we see.
I figure the reason there is no evidence is so that we can keep this conspiracy alive and feed it.
Thank You!!! That's all I wanted was some acknowledgement that's its impossible to find real images from space! I believe flat earth for many reasons, this is just one of them. Good on you for taking a look.
Maybe some things to investigate going forward: were the moon landings real? Is the ISS or manned spacecraft real? Are any satellites in orbit real? If the spinning ball earth hurtling around the sun is real, how would you know if nasa lied about everything?
I did not take a look, I have been searching for a long time, ever since I wanted to put the flat earth shit to rest. I cannot find any actual provable imagery to use, game over.
nasa lies about everything, moon landings are 100% bs. satellites I accept but have questions about why they are so feeble.
Plasma cosmology is likely where you need to spend some time researching to really get an idea of what is happening. It at least makes more sense than current astrophysics.
It is most likely that the entire shit is just a scam to operate people. Think for a moment about why everything is under the control of evil and why everything is tainted, you are then able to see
The same evil that is running the show, is the same evil that produced the whole flat earth shit back in the day.
Just for fun. how about a concave earth? https://youtu.be/g9VmC3Zgz1s
Thanks for some information.
But it seems possible to me that.....
I know there are high tides, I think somewhere here in NS boasts the highest tides on earth.
Then on top of that, water bulges at the equator due to the centrifugal force.
This could easily explain the results, I feel like anyway. I am trying my best to not be biased about this, but damned if it isnt hard.
First, can you even prove material things actually exist? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley
No, for all I know matter might all be energy, or this is all a digital simulation. All these theories are more plausible to me than heliocentric model/relativity/big bang.
I'd go with simulation
Fair enough, however if we do live in some flat biodome as the Bible says, with a creator watching over us, it may feel like a computer simulation to someone who is unaware of the creator.
You could think of the creator as being materially efficient. If it's just easier for it to be simulated than creating the real thing then go with a simulation.
Also, there's no way to be sure about Nesting- that is, are we currently living in a Simulation that's parts of another simulation or two (or a thousand). Regardless, a creator is still necessary as the foundational creator of the first simulation. Any successive simulation could be an artifact of a non creator though.
don't feed the trolls
/downvoted
5th person to respond, still can't provide one real photo taken from space. It's a very simple challenge if we indeed have thousands of satellites in orbit.
Google Maps - Central Park, NYC
I can only assume people are not picking-up your asinine challenge because it's a complete waste of time to feed trolls.
Those can be taken from a high altitude spy plane retard, you don't have to leave the atmosphere to create Google maps. Again, real photos taken in space or on another planet. Why is this so difficult. Show me the ball earth from space, mars, Jupiter, saturn, a satellite in space, a tesla in space. I think you will find every image you pull up is computer generated, or faked in a Hollywood studio.
you tell me.... google maps don't qualify for what reason?
You need to provide pics that can only be taken from space, Google maps can (and is) created with spy planes. This disqualifies google maps. But if you were to provide a real picture of the entire earth floating in space, you would prove we really do have satellites with cameras in space.
PS, notice when you zoom far enough away on Google Earth, it shows you a computer generated earth. No images of globe Earth from space are real
Just receive them yourself, what is your problem? There are dozens of statellites at different orbits that continously openly transmit the realtime view of Earth from space for everyone who want to listen. All you need is just have to want to receive that transmissions on your own receiver and decode them on your own computer without any NASA, internet or whatever you afraid of.
If you don't want to do it - why do you made such post at all?
yes planes and satellites.
you believe google spent 500 million on Skybox Imaging ....to buy some planes? lol... ok... whatever...
how about this one - live from the ISS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86YLFOog4GM
Nasas budget is 24 billion this year, they have no problem buying spy planes and they publicly admit doing so. They also use thousands of balloon satellites that can stay aloft for 2 years, this is also public knowledge.
Good try, but notice it changes shots every 2 minutes. And there isn't even enough clarity to see if the weather and time of day match what is observable on earth. I can't verify anything with that. You can't even make out any landmarks on earth.
The ISS is in a huge green pool so they can film space walks while they are actually scuba diving.
of course it's computer generated... you think think they send-up film? and then what... drop it back down for development at the walgreens ?lol!
how about the mobile phone cam... you have... for selfies...
all your selfies are fake because they are computer generated - not kodak film - is your pitch ?
Digital pictures are fine. All nasas stuff is literally generated by graphic designers and looks less real than Avatar. That's one reason I call bullshit on the space program. Now quit arguing semantics a find a real picture of something in space... bitch.
define "photo"
define "space"
...waiting....
Space I would define as high enough to be in orbit, or further, or on another planet.
Real photo I need to leave a little open ended. What if I was wrong and you found a picture of Jupiter's moon titan that was simply brightened due to low light, some alterations might be ok for practical purposes. But anything you can pull up will be 100% fake.
yea pretty sure i do :)
unless you're sincerely into this shit, in which case you're just a retard.
define "curve" smarty pants
what's your definition of troll?
... said the flat earther :)
The earth is a sphere 24,901 miles at the equator according to Nasa. There are earth curve calculators online, and equations you can look up to calculate earth curve over a given distance.
But the earth isn't a sphere or oblate spheriod or any of that bs. It's flat and stationary with a firmament enclosed over us. And the north pole is the center and Antarctica is an encircling land mass. The sun and moon and stars are small and local and rotate at different speeds like the hands of a clock.
... said the YuuugeAsshoe
I can be... yes