It's kinda funny how people can have complete distrust in the elite, and pass the IQ test in that regard, yet still believe 100% unquestioningly in the total and perfect veracity of a book compiled half by the Vatican and half by the priesthood of a giant temple built by Masons
I don't understand how do people advocate complete distrust of the elites but at the sane time tell you to believe in a God worshipped by literal Zionists and tells you how to live.
Have all the conspiracies of power, religion and politics you want... do you read Jesus's teachings and think he was a bad person or a force for evil?
To see that he works for good, one does not even need to consider him from a religious perspective... even if you think Jesus was just a man, he was clearly a man of good deeds.
a) IN'NATE, adjective [Latin innatus, from innascor; in and nascor, to be born.] ...implies to be out of; hence in response to.
b) the response in your example represents want (good) versus not want (evil); while ignoring need (perceivable) for want (suggested).
force (Latin fortis; power)
The temporary living represent the force of resistance within the ongoing force of velocity (dying)...hence the need to respond by resisting the temptation of wanting.
Etymology is an interesting thing, but it is a diversion.
Your response is inane and pointless for the English standard definitions of these words are clearly the intended ones.
Innate: (from the Latin you mention) something you are born with, not learned or adopted.
Second, fortis is the Latin word for force. You have no idea what velocity is, however. F=ma. a=dx/dt V (in shorthand). Even as an abstract analogy, velocity representing death is stupid.
Etymology is an interesting thing, but it is a diversion.
The foundation for that diversion represents the suggested word over the perceivable sound; hence the few crafting the spell of the consenting many through suggestion of idolized meaning; which in return allows the few to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) any and all suggested meaning.
inane
INA'NE, adjective [Latin inanis, empty.] - "to express a void space". ONE (perceiving) within ALL (perceivable) cannot express emptiness, since the differentiated ONE exists at the center of the whole ALL. Or in other words...to be able to express implies responding to impression....impression (perception) to compression (comprehension) for either expression (growth) or repression (loss).
pointless for the English standard definitions of these words are clearly the intended ones.
a) perceivable sound represents impressing origin; most suggested words tempt one towards outcomes. Living within the process of dying implies resisting origin to grow life before reaching outcome.
b) INTEND', verb [Latin intendo; in and tendo, to stretch]...it's living that is being stretched within the process of dying aka from inception towards death. That stretch represents growth within loss aka self sustenance of form (life) within flow (inception towards death).
c) I utilize 1822 Websters (or older sources) to show the suggested revisionism upon words, while adding an expression through my comprehension of perceivable sound.
d) DEFINITE (within boundaries) -TION (through action). Form (choice) within the momentum (balance) of flow represents temporary reaction bound to ongoing action. Everything perceivable represents predefined inspiration for all perceiving it from within to sustain themselves by adaptation to it.
The issue with adaptation within balance (momentum of motion) is the center...choice; hence both need (adaptation to balance) and want (ignoring balance for suggesting choices) aka responsibility to sustain life (growth) and temptation luring towards death (loss)...both coexisting.
something you are born with
NATURE, noun - "born, produced". You are within nature aka one thing (living) within everything (dying) aka reactor (growth) within generator (loss). What ONE lacks within ALL represents the as of yet untapped potentiality (loss) offered towards each ones potential (growth). In other words...ONE represents a seed (comprehension) within the soil of ALL (perceivable).
The parasitic few use suggested information to tempt the many to understand (stand under) others; while ignoring to grow comprehension out of perceivable inspiration.
Second, fortis is the Latin word for force. You have no idea what velocity is.
Living represents the force of temporary resistance within the ongoing force of velocity (dying). Notice that you as the living cannot perceive your own inception and death; yet are still moving within it. What the many are tempted by the suggestions of the few is to ignore the ever changing moment aka the moment-um of motion. Enacting flow (inception towards death) causes momentum (balance) for responding form (life with choice).
F=ma. a=dx/dt V
All suggested math is based on 0 aka an affixed state to count from; which tempts those counting to ignore being the 1 (choice) within ALL (balance). Math tempts ONE to seek solutions to suggested problems; while ignoring that being moved from inception towards death represents the solution and that each ONE within represents the resistance to being solved aka transmuted back to base.
Consider form to flow (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) as ingredient ONEs (living) transmutation out of base ALL (dying)? How to tempt the many to ignore perceivable transmutation (implies out of everything)? With suggested creationism (implies out of nothing).
The parasitic few suggest the many to seek order out of chaos; which tempts them to ignore that they represent temporary chaos (living; growth) out of the ongoing natural order (dying; loss).
Instead of the suggested mathematical formulas; question flow (inception towards death) as the origin of form (life)? Look at the rhetoric used to obfuscate this like...HU'MAN, adjective [Latin humanus; Heb. form, species.] + AN'IMAL, noun [Latin animal from anima, air, breath, soul.]. Those represent us being animated (animal) form (human); which implies out of animating flow.
Another one...the suggested meaning "insane person" tempts one to ignore the perceived implication of "in sanus" (within sound) + "per sonos" (by sound) aka being within; by; out of and therefore in response to the perceivable source of sound; which implies the responding choice of resonance (need) and dissonance (want).
velocity representing death is stupid
a) STUPID, adjective - "to stop". The temporary (living) cannot stop within the ongoing (dying); but suggesting to each other to be stupid breeds ignorance towards motion.
b) hold your breath and wait until the impressing force of velocity will caused your responding force of resistance. Once again...impression; compression; expression. Also...SPIR'IT, noun [Latin spiritus, from spiro, to breathe.] aka form to flow adaptation.
Remember the sleight of hand by the parasitic few "I can't breathe" leads to death; followed by the suggestion "put a mask over your nose and mouth". This represents spiritual warfare by suggestion.
Fake edit: question being a reaction within an enacting system? The velocity you are measuring represents the mimicked reactions within the momentum of the ongoing action. Comprehending to be resistance within velocity; form within flow; potential within potentiality; choice within balance, magnetic within electric; temporary within ongoing; living within dying; growth within loss; ONE within ALL represents the growth of self discernment.
Afterwards ONE can start growing comprehension about the ONEness (energy) of ALL (loss/growth) or as the sleight of hand goes "one for all and all for one"
All suggested math is based on 0 aka an affixed state to count from; which tempts those counting to ignore being the 1 (choice) within ALL (balance). Math tempts ONE to seek solutions to suggested problems; while ignoring that being moved from inception towards death represents the solution and that each ONE within represents the resistance to being solved aka transmuted back to base.
Mistaken on all fronts.
Math was used by many archaic cultures which did NOT use a zero. It is based on knowledge of objects, one object plus another and so on... this does not require the idea of zero despite it following logically.
Differentials, such as the one I wrote, compare change, zero is not fundamental.
(Have fun with mostly Greek roots instead of Latin ones this time, I noticed you skipped 'etymology' and only mention the Latin root words...)
Within a balance based system...the suggested nothing represents 0 (ones ignorance of balance), while the perceivable everything represents 1 (one perceiving the oneness of all from within balance).
It is based on knowledge of objects, one object plus another and so on..
a) PLUS (Latin more) - "addition" tempts to ignore that the ones perceiving cannot add anything to all perceivable. Each ones growth is being transmuted out of all loss. That's once again suggested creationism (implies out of nothing) over perceivable transmutation (implies out of everything).
b) counting represents yet another deception since there's no such thing as a perceivable "two" within oneness (energy). All perceivable differentiation (into the perceiving ones) represents self differentiation of oneness into ones. Counting implies by choice; while suggesting counted as "two" represents tempting others to ignore perceivable differences for suggested sameness. The parasitic few utilize E Pluribus Unum (out of many one) to tempt the many into consenting to mix perceivable differences back together; hence corrupting perceivable inspiration needed for self sustenance.
Furthermore; NUM'BER; noun - "the designation of a unit" implies unitas - "the state of being one; oneness". Sleight of hand for counting: hook-nosed vampire in Sesame-Street: "I'm the Count; would you like to count with me?" We're being tempted by suggestion to count; to seek solutions; to solve problems; to pretend to add etc. Those who ignore the only ONE unit can be buried under suggested numbers.
c) form (living) represents the object within objectifying flow (dying). Ask yourself if the living within the process of dying need to count the breathes they take or if they need to adapt to being moved? Same for thirst and hunger...it's all about the balance of "enough"; not about counting sips and bites.
Math was used by many archaic cultures...based on knowledge of objects
You got anything on the oldest forms of MATH, noun - "a mowing; as in aftermath"?
Differentials, such as the one I wrote, compare change
Within a suggested confinement instead of from the perspective of ONE (perceiving) as the center of ALL (perceivable). The measured changes are (as far as I know) based on suggested sources of motion; which tempts to ignore that form represents the response to being moved; hence re-movement and the resulting struggle to sustain self within that.
Yes, worship Lucifer. Pretend that Christianity is not a force for good, that a Christian Europe did not bring prosperity and rights and civilization and that Christ himself didn't reject the jews. Yes, rub hands together assume that everything the West has been, is now, and will be, subverted by Zionists.
Of course the Church (as in all Christianity, regardless of denomination) is full of corruption. Christ, in his own mysterious way, showed us that this is going to happen by letting Judas, whom he knew would betray him, into the 12.
Also, read the parable of the wheat and the weeds (tares). It has very deep meaning, in short, that the good is mixed in with the bad, but that the bad can't be extracted without harming the good.
“The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”
Yes and no. It is you who will stand before God for your individual judgement after your death. Your soul will be judged by itself. You need to live a life with that in mind.
However, governments should organize society towards man's highest goods. They often don't. But a nation that (for example) supports families, ensures the safety of its borders from invasion, and punishes evildoers who harm others by pollution or robbery, makes it much easier for an individual to make the choices to lead to a rewarding life than one that is poorly organized, like inner city Detroit.
One of the most pervasive corruptions is removing Christ and replacing it with lord. Modern Christianity is trained to ask 'Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.'
Baal translates to lord.
Yahshua (Joshua/Jesus) is not lord and savior imo, but Messiah and Redeemer. Messiah is someone who teaches so that we can walk alongside, not blindly follow. Redeemer puts us in a state where we can be saved but there are still expectations (by Grace, but something short of a free ticket). We cannot idle by while evils run rampant, surrendered to the inevitability and hoping futilely for a secret deliverance.
Calling on Yahshua in the afterlife is incredibly powerful, but I don't assume that blind followers will be able to do so.
Still searching personally, but maybe this perspective will help readers.
Anyone who claims that they worship Lucifer/Satan are atheists who believe they're edgy because people told them THAT is edgy. Even Heremetic Kabbalah evolved from Zionism or Semitic faith.
Also "Christian Europe brings prosperity" means that you NEED to read a proper history book, because people get starved to death, plagues spread around like wildfire and kill millions and serfdom will destroy you. It's a Zionist's paradise and those are the only people who prosper in such conditions.
Oh and Europe has been taken over by Zionists since Lucius/Nero. It's just AFTER that point where they show their true colors.
a) self inflicted by the many through consenting to the suggestions of the few.
b) ignoring to sustain form (life) within flow (inception towards death) allows others to suggest form to flow transmutation back to base (not just a culling but a burned offering).
"elites" want truthers
a) to consent to want (truth) or not want (lie) what others suggest by free will of choice represents submitting to the suggesting choices of others; which is what establishes the suggesting few as the "chosen ones" aka the ELITE (selection; choice) of the ignorant many who consent to their suggestions.
b) truth (want) vs lies (not want) ignores being within constant change (need). A conflict (reason) caused by choosing want (suggested) over need (perceivable).
luciferian one world religion
a) lucifer represents the source of perceivable light.
b) all represents one in energy. Each one (living) exists within the oneness (dying) of all as temporary form (life) within ongoing flow (inception towards).
c) ignoring the perceivable for suggestions by others represents RELIGION (Latin religio) - "to bind anew"; hence ignoring the original bond aka balance (perceivable) to choice (perceiving) natural law; for choice (consent) to choice (suggestion) contract law.
In short...choice willingly consents to bind itself to the choice of others when consenting to their suggestions.
Then there's this comment right below:
I don't understand how do people advocate complete distrust of the elites but at the sane time tell you to believe in a God worshipped by literal Zionists and tells you how to live.
People have an innate sense of good and evil. Jesus was a force of good.
True. Everyone is born with the light of Christ.
You see fren. This is how they win.
The conspiracy started 2000 years ago not in 2020 !
Have all the conspiracies of power, religion and politics you want... do you read Jesus's teachings and think he was a bad person or a force for evil?
To see that he works for good, one does not even need to consider him from a religious perspective... even if you think Jesus was just a man, he was clearly a man of good deeds.
I think Jesus is as much a fictional story as Santa Claus and the cohoax. that's all
a) IN'NATE, adjective [Latin innatus, from innascor; in and nascor, to be born.] ...implies to be out of; hence in response to.
b) the response in your example represents want (good) versus not want (evil); while ignoring need (perceivable) for want (suggested).
The temporary living represent the force of resistance within the ongoing force of velocity (dying)...hence the need to respond by resisting the temptation of wanting.
Etymology is an interesting thing, but it is a diversion.
Your response is inane and pointless for the English standard definitions of these words are clearly the intended ones.
Innate: (from the Latin you mention) something you are born with, not learned or adopted.
Second, fortis is the Latin word for force. You have no idea what velocity is, however. F=ma. a=dx/dt V (in shorthand). Even as an abstract analogy, velocity representing death is stupid.
The foundation for that diversion represents the suggested word over the perceivable sound; hence the few crafting the spell of the consenting many through suggestion of idolized meaning; which in return allows the few to define (idolatry); redefine (revisionism) and contradict (talmudic reasoning) any and all suggested meaning.
INA'NE, adjective [Latin inanis, empty.] - "to express a void space". ONE (perceiving) within ALL (perceivable) cannot express emptiness, since the differentiated ONE exists at the center of the whole ALL. Or in other words...to be able to express implies responding to impression....impression (perception) to compression (comprehension) for either expression (growth) or repression (loss).
a) perceivable sound represents impressing origin; most suggested words tempt one towards outcomes. Living within the process of dying implies resisting origin to grow life before reaching outcome.
b) INTEND', verb [Latin intendo; in and tendo, to stretch]...it's living that is being stretched within the process of dying aka from inception towards death. That stretch represents growth within loss aka self sustenance of form (life) within flow (inception towards death).
c) I utilize 1822 Websters (or older sources) to show the suggested revisionism upon words, while adding an expression through my comprehension of perceivable sound.
d) DEFINITE (within boundaries) -TION (through action). Form (choice) within the momentum (balance) of flow represents temporary reaction bound to ongoing action. Everything perceivable represents predefined inspiration for all perceiving it from within to sustain themselves by adaptation to it.
The issue with adaptation within balance (momentum of motion) is the center...choice; hence both need (adaptation to balance) and want (ignoring balance for suggesting choices) aka responsibility to sustain life (growth) and temptation luring towards death (loss)...both coexisting.
NATURE, noun - "born, produced". You are within nature aka one thing (living) within everything (dying) aka reactor (growth) within generator (loss). What ONE lacks within ALL represents the as of yet untapped potentiality (loss) offered towards each ones potential (growth). In other words...ONE represents a seed (comprehension) within the soil of ALL (perceivable).
The parasitic few use suggested information to tempt the many to understand (stand under) others; while ignoring to grow comprehension out of perceivable inspiration.
Living represents the force of temporary resistance within the ongoing force of velocity (dying). Notice that you as the living cannot perceive your own inception and death; yet are still moving within it. What the many are tempted by the suggestions of the few is to ignore the ever changing moment aka the moment-um of motion. Enacting flow (inception towards death) causes momentum (balance) for responding form (life with choice).
All suggested math is based on 0 aka an affixed state to count from; which tempts those counting to ignore being the 1 (choice) within ALL (balance). Math tempts ONE to seek solutions to suggested problems; while ignoring that being moved from inception towards death represents the solution and that each ONE within represents the resistance to being solved aka transmuted back to base.
Consider form to flow (inception); form within flow (life) and form to flow (death) as ingredient ONEs (living) transmutation out of base ALL (dying)? How to tempt the many to ignore perceivable transmutation (implies out of everything)? With suggested creationism (implies out of nothing).
The parasitic few suggest the many to seek order out of chaos; which tempts them to ignore that they represent temporary chaos (living; growth) out of the ongoing natural order (dying; loss).
Instead of the suggested mathematical formulas; question flow (inception towards death) as the origin of form (life)? Look at the rhetoric used to obfuscate this like...HU'MAN, adjective [Latin humanus; Heb. form, species.] + AN'IMAL, noun [Latin animal from anima, air, breath, soul.]. Those represent us being animated (animal) form (human); which implies out of animating flow.
Another one...the suggested meaning "insane person" tempts one to ignore the perceived implication of "in sanus" (within sound) + "per sonos" (by sound) aka being within; by; out of and therefore in response to the perceivable source of sound; which implies the responding choice of resonance (need) and dissonance (want).
a) STUPID, adjective - "to stop". The temporary (living) cannot stop within the ongoing (dying); but suggesting to each other to be stupid breeds ignorance towards motion.
b) hold your breath and wait until the impressing force of velocity will caused your responding force of resistance. Once again...impression; compression; expression. Also...SPIR'IT, noun [Latin spiritus, from spiro, to breathe.] aka form to flow adaptation.
Remember the sleight of hand by the parasitic few "I can't breathe" leads to death; followed by the suggestion "put a mask over your nose and mouth". This represents spiritual warfare by suggestion.
Fake edit: question being a reaction within an enacting system? The velocity you are measuring represents the mimicked reactions within the momentum of the ongoing action. Comprehending to be resistance within velocity; form within flow; potential within potentiality; choice within balance, magnetic within electric; temporary within ongoing; living within dying; growth within loss; ONE within ALL represents the growth of self discernment.
Afterwards ONE can start growing comprehension about the ONEness (energy) of ALL (loss/growth) or as the sleight of hand goes "one for all and all for one"
Mistaken on all fronts.
Math was used by many archaic cultures which did NOT use a zero. It is based on knowledge of objects, one object plus another and so on... this does not require the idea of zero despite it following logically.
Differentials, such as the one I wrote, compare change, zero is not fundamental.
(Have fun with mostly Greek roots instead of Latin ones this time, I noticed you skipped 'etymology' and only mention the Latin root words...)
Within a balance based system...the suggested nothing represents 0 (ones ignorance of balance), while the perceivable everything represents 1 (one perceiving the oneness of all from within balance).
a) PLUS (Latin more) - "addition" tempts to ignore that the ones perceiving cannot add anything to all perceivable. Each ones growth is being transmuted out of all loss. That's once again suggested creationism (implies out of nothing) over perceivable transmutation (implies out of everything).
b) counting represents yet another deception since there's no such thing as a perceivable "two" within oneness (energy). All perceivable differentiation (into the perceiving ones) represents self differentiation of oneness into ones. Counting implies by choice; while suggesting counted as "two" represents tempting others to ignore perceivable differences for suggested sameness. The parasitic few utilize E Pluribus Unum (out of many one) to tempt the many into consenting to mix perceivable differences back together; hence corrupting perceivable inspiration needed for self sustenance.
Furthermore; NUM'BER; noun - "the designation of a unit" implies unitas - "the state of being one; oneness". Sleight of hand for counting: hook-nosed vampire in Sesame-Street: "I'm the Count; would you like to count with me?" We're being tempted by suggestion to count; to seek solutions; to solve problems; to pretend to add etc. Those who ignore the only ONE unit can be buried under suggested numbers.
c) form (living) represents the object within objectifying flow (dying). Ask yourself if the living within the process of dying need to count the breathes they take or if they need to adapt to being moved? Same for thirst and hunger...it's all about the balance of "enough"; not about counting sips and bites.
You got anything on the oldest forms of MATH, noun - "a mowing; as in aftermath"?
Within a suggested confinement instead of from the perspective of ONE (perceiving) as the center of ALL (perceivable). The measured changes are (as far as I know) based on suggested sources of motion; which tempts to ignore that form represents the response to being moved; hence re-movement and the resulting struggle to sustain self within that.
Ah, so i kin your programming can only aithnich Latin phonemes....
Yes, worship Lucifer. Pretend that Christianity is not a force for good, that a Christian Europe did not bring prosperity and rights and civilization and that Christ himself didn't reject the jews. Yes, rub hands together assume that everything the West has been, is now, and will be, subverted by Zionists.
Of course the Church (as in all Christianity, regardless of denomination) is full of corruption. Christ, in his own mysterious way, showed us that this is going to happen by letting Judas, whom he knew would betray him, into the 12.
Also, read the parable of the wheat and the weeds (tares). It has very deep meaning, in short, that the good is mixed in with the bad, but that the bad can't be extracted without harming the good.
“The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”
Yes and no. It is you who will stand before God for your individual judgement after your death. Your soul will be judged by itself. You need to live a life with that in mind.
However, governments should organize society towards man's highest goods. They often don't. But a nation that (for example) supports families, ensures the safety of its borders from invasion, and punishes evildoers who harm others by pollution or robbery, makes it much easier for an individual to make the choices to lead to a rewarding life than one that is poorly organized, like inner city Detroit.
One of the most pervasive corruptions is removing Christ and replacing it with lord. Modern Christianity is trained to ask 'Have you accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior.'
Baal translates to lord.
Yahshua (Joshua/Jesus) is not lord and savior imo, but Messiah and Redeemer. Messiah is someone who teaches so that we can walk alongside, not blindly follow. Redeemer puts us in a state where we can be saved but there are still expectations (by Grace, but something short of a free ticket). We cannot idle by while evils run rampant, surrendered to the inevitability and hoping futilely for a secret deliverance.
Calling on Yahshua in the afterlife is incredibly powerful, but I don't assume that blind followers will be able to do so.
Still searching personally, but maybe this perspective will help readers.
Anyone who claims that they worship Lucifer/Satan are atheists who believe they're edgy because people told them THAT is edgy. Even Heremetic Kabbalah evolved from Zionism or Semitic faith.
Also "Christian Europe brings prosperity" means that you NEED to read a proper history book, because people get starved to death, plagues spread around like wildfire and kill millions and serfdom will destroy you. It's a Zionist's paradise and those are the only people who prosper in such conditions.
Oh and Europe has been taken over by Zionists since Lucius/Nero. It's just AFTER that point where they show their true colors.
Halle fuckin lujah
Fuck them.
I can’t believe you even typed that…
SQUIRREL!
They have everyone wrapped in their salvationist BS.
They are all mind slaves
a) self inflicted by the many through consenting to the suggestions of the few.
b) ignoring to sustain form (life) within flow (inception towards death) allows others to suggest form to flow transmutation back to base (not just a culling but a burned offering).
a) to consent to want (truth) or not want (lie) what others suggest by free will of choice represents submitting to the suggesting choices of others; which is what establishes the suggesting few as the "chosen ones" aka the ELITE (selection; choice) of the ignorant many who consent to their suggestions.
b) truth (want) vs lies (not want) ignores being within constant change (need). A conflict (reason) caused by choosing want (suggested) over need (perceivable).
a) lucifer represents the source of perceivable light.
b) all represents one in energy. Each one (living) exists within the oneness (dying) of all as temporary form (life) within ongoing flow (inception towards).
c) ignoring the perceivable for suggestions by others represents RELIGION (Latin religio) - "to bind anew"; hence ignoring the original bond aka balance (perceivable) to choice (perceiving) natural law; for choice (consent) to choice (suggestion) contract law.
In short...choice willingly consents to bind itself to the choice of others when consenting to their suggestions.