Project Orion. A NASA mission to send an unmanned craft through the Van Allen radiation belts to test radiation effects on the craft, measure levels of radiation within the craft. Potential effects on a manned mission. If we went to the moon, traversing through the belts already, then why the Orion mission? Why study the belts now? Possibly because we have not sent manned missions through the belts to the moon, or anywhere else. The ISS is only 280 miles high in low earth orbit. Nowhere near the belts.
No, what you have is an astronaut being pedantic. Conan said he watched the moon landing, and Buzz said that there were no cameras recording the landing (or at least transmitting it live). That makes sense because they hadn't landed yet. Also, assuming the transmissions required directional antennas, they wouldn't be aimed while the vehicle was descending. Once they landed, they were able to use cameras and antennas mounted on the LEM to transmit the first moonwalk and stuff.
you think they didnt have ANY studies of those in the past before they sent them? lol. get real. is that the new argument now since EVERY THING else has been debunked? "but...but...mah van allen belts!!"
I am just sharing what the NASA engineer over the project stated. Which according to his presentation is that NASA has never navigated through the belts. Take it for what it's worth to you.
Why some people is so obsessed with digging in the question about moon landing? Neither answer have any significance.
Option one - US Moon Landing was real. So what?
Option two - US Moon Landing was a hoax. Again, so what?
It does not matter.
Much more interesting and really significant question is why the humanity (all humanity, not just US), while having all tech and means to develop and explore Moon for a long time abandoned all attempts to do it, like somebody prohibited that activity in whole.
Moon, as any atmosphereless celestial body open to the solar and space radiation contains a lot of tritium, much more than you could produce on Earth nuclear stations. Tritium is ~$30k per gram. One ton of tritium is $30B So it is profitable to develop the Moon even only for tritium, that is expensive now and will become more expensive when it finally become fuel for really working thermonuclear reactors. However, even profit does not cause extensive Moon exploration.
Not trying to be mean but this comment is actually retarded. Your "interesting questions" are answered by the premise. If we never went to the moon it literally answers all your significant very amazing "thought provoking" questions in one fell swoop. You don't think that the moon landing is significant because you're a boomer that can't stand to not believe that what you saw on tv was fake.
I used to think the same thoughts why does it really matter if we went to the moon. But my reasoning was different. But now due to boomers like you getting very triggered irl and online by the moon landing. Even other generations getting triggered. It's clear to me that the moon landing opens up Pandoras box and that is why people choose to believe it happened, despite all the evidence it didn't happen.
I don't care if US went to the moon or not at all.
can't stand to not believe that what you saw on tv was fake.
I didn't saw US moon landings on TV. They was broadcasted in USSR at the time, but I was not born yet.
despite all the evidence it didn't happen.
To state that, you have at least to show some evidence that USSR Moon landings was a hoax too. I didn't saw any article or video with anything that could even distantly resemble the debunking of USSR Moon program with all that numerous Luna devices including ones that bring back Moon soil and few Lunokhod robots that crawled the Moon surface long ago.
Somehow you think that the World is limited with USA. But it's not. You missed significant part of reality that should be researched too in your search for truth. If you somehow ignore a huge part of reality and focus only on some local topic, then something is very weird.
You are bringing all this irrelevant stuff into the question of the moon landing (the one where they claim they walked on the moon), and it's disingenuous.
It's similar to when you're discussing main stream media lying and someone brings in why they aren't lying about the weather tomorrow.
Let's first talk about the moon landing then we can move onto other topics.
I concede that there are a lot of inconsistences in the NASA results of Apollo moon landings that was presented to public.
I don't know if any of Apollo missions really landed on the moon, may be there was many failures and deaths, so NASA had to fake some, or all data. But I'm shure that manned landing on the Moon was technically possible at the time, so I don't leave out a possibility that one or few times they did it, just not in the way they presented it to public.
Option two - US Moon Landing was a hoax. Again, so what?
IMO, it shows the extent as to what they're willing to go through to lie to the public. Their credibility goes to trash. Now, I don't need any convincing about their credibility being trash, but some people out there do.
OK, NASA lies (not only about Moon, really). So, what is the point? Some state agency lies. There is no any new useful information in this. What's next? Just sit and feel proud that you know that NASA lies?
I perfectly understand what is the purpose of digging in say, WEF dirt. That could give us a knowledge of their next moves and prepare. I perfectly understand all that "connecting dots" adventure of finding links in the structure of society. This gives foreknowledge of where it going. Or searching for hidden technologies that we could use for our profit.
But this moonhoax... It's like spend a tons of efforts just to prove that CNN had lied at Feb 20, 2021.
IDK, even if take into account national significance of US Moon Landing in USA history, I still don't get the meaning of results. Even if I try to put myself in similar situation, say imagine that USSR Ekranoplan program of building giant flying at low altitude vehicles was fake, then so what? OK it was fake. How it is important? Curious - may be. But what is the use of permanent forcing and pushing that revelation everywhere and rising senseless disputes between those who believe that ekranoplans was real and tose who believe that ekranoplans was fake? What useful knowledge could be extracted from that fact and if any, how to use that knowledge to defeat, say, elites of anything or to spare yourself from some future shit?
What is the purpose of that convincing? What will change if every American will know that US Moon Landing was a hoax? It is even not in the top 10 of USA hoaxes. Federal Reserve USD hoax is much more important and doing harm for the population right now, but I don't see the same obsession in convincing people in USD hoax.
I like talking about the moon landing, taking photos, pondering the false light beaming from the sky. That’s why I am here. I am obsessed with alot of things. The moon landing (to me) is about as interesting as:
why is Russia always marked as the antagonist in the media? Seems like a big deep fake.
why is Jesus the only “religious figure” allowed to be ridiculed? (“piss christ” “art work”, can you imagine a “piss allah”?) lol
why is there a rumor that Billy Gates (gates of hell lol) wants to “block the sun” and buy up all my land? (I’m not selling)
why did the pope (201st pope, event 201 lol) and vatican call the their infrared telescope lucifer, invest millions in infrared sky mapping? (Supposedly they found a red dragon in virgo in 2017, why did google sky maps block it out?)
Why does the vatican (from google maps) look like a big pregnant crowned serpent with a big dead sheep in its mouth (St Peter’s basillica)?
Why does the core of an apple look like a vagina (eve and the apple) and why does the core of an orange look like a clock (clockwork orange)?
Is Paul McCartney dead? He doesn’t look like the original.
Why did the show I love lucy(fer) characters spell “LucyFER” L uci F red E thel R icky? was lucy actually a dude? (got grounded for that one lol)
Why is the word president an anagram of Serpent ID?
why did nasa have so many “apollo” rituals? and why is CERN’s collider (cernunnos the horned god) built on top of the temple of apollo (apollyon from revelation, the angel of the pit)
I am much like a 3 year old just learning and asking endless questions. The kid you want to suffocate. LOL
I regularly suggest to grumpy old fucks to just mute or block me like my grandfather did.
I like all your questions. But unlike moonhoax they are not settled, and need to be researched. Many have direct impact on what is going on.
Another *winner give me interesting answer -
Why do people discuss it? Because people care about the moon. You can go outside, look up at the moon, and marvel, that no man has ever been there before.
Moonhoax is like the smashing best dreams, hopes and believes by stupid government agency. I don't feel like that, that is why I didn't understand the point.
I'm trying to better understand other people and trying to get what is the importance of the topic. So asking questions. Since when asking questions become "triggered"? Last time it was "actively joining into discussion to disprove opponent at any cost". I'm not discussing the topic at all and don't try to disprove it. There are even no opponents for me.
the lunar orbiter took the shots. in a mission, there are three men. michael collins was the one who stayed in the orbiter taking the shots. educate yourself. k thanks
The Russian population is well aware that the Americans staged the moon landing.
Russian population don't really care about it. And those who care and think that US Moon landings was staged use completely different arguments than all that digging in NASA footage.
Besides Vodka and Kalinka, what exactly would you say that the Russian population cares about?
New version of iPhone and decent VPN for using facebook and other shitty "social media" is much more important things than vodka and ancient dances now. Kalinka even in USSR was just a history and vodka hugely lost its significance over last decades.
Can not have them break their programming, by looking into the fake moon stuff. Bread and circus, keep the masses entertained. Stop paying attention to what the government does not want you to know, that is what I hear you saying.
Stop paying attention to what the government does not want you to know, that is what I hear you saying.
AFAIR talks about mooonhoax are 30 years old, if not more. Obviously that does not work. And even if that will work, what result is estimated?
I perfectly inderstand the need for debunking, say, coronahoax, I did everything what I could to debunk it and unveil the truth. It was necessary to literally save lives, right here, right now. What is the point of debunking moonhoax now? Why it is so important? Is it some sacral, religious thing for Americans, that should be destroyed? What is the place of US Moon Landing in the American culture? Or may be some important narratives that poison the life in US are based on that thing, so it is very important to destroy the base for that narratives?
Could you answer directly? I'm not a politician, I don't understand that indirect murky things well.
The point is that people will know the truth, and I for one care about the truth, even if other do not.
If I tell someone the truth, but all they care about is what their iPhones tell them, that is fine by me. But this is a conspiracy community, where the hole point is to talk about conspiracies, not your iPhone.
I would say if anyone important did. Russia, China, Japan, and others all have sent crafts to the moon, including rovers. If the US didn't land on the moon, then one of these space programs could easily find where the US allegedly landed and refute it. And yet, nothing.
If any of them were to make a case disputing the US moon landing it would be incredibly simple (if the US never landed on the moon).
The footage from the craft on the moon from China is so fake that it is not even funny. If you believe them, you might as well believe North Korea when they said they landed on the sun. It is not like the government would ever lie to you, right?
How did they transmit all that data lmao if you had minimal knowledge on video and audio you would know it’s impossible to send and save that much data on the memory they were capable of. Even nasa admits that video is fake
An astronaut that you think went moon who works for nasa just told you that you didn’t see shit 😆😂 So yes this is nasa admitting that the video is an animation. Your the one who looks stupid when they are telling it’s fake and your so hypnotized you can’t hear it
Please provide how it is. I’m not making the positive claim nasa is. How much data do you use for video. Also I am at work I’ll send you a link later where nasa admits the video is fake your behind on this stuff lmao
Apollo originally transmitted 10fps monochrome video in 320 progressive lines, which supposedly required 500Khz of bandwidth. Terrestrial color broadcast TV signals at the time, encoded with NTSC, required 5Mhz of bandwidth.
There is no specs lmao if you have the specs and can prove that’s what nasa used please provide as nasa can’t even prove they sent data during the moon missions as they “lost” that super advanced technology 😂😂 nasa even says the memory they used is equivalent to a pocket calculator. How do you record that much video and audio with that little of memory you are really gullible if you believe these things sorry but you need to wake up
No one has the info so how would I have it. I looked for it and they said it doesn’t exist. I cant I give you something nasa can’t even give you. So you claiming they can do it is just wishful thinking. You have no idea what your defending
Project Orion. A NASA mission to send an unmanned craft through the Van Allen radiation belts to test radiation effects on the craft, measure levels of radiation within the craft. Potential effects on a manned mission. If we went to the moon, traversing through the belts already, then why the Orion mission? Why study the belts now? Possibly because we have not sent manned missions through the belts to the moon, or anywhere else. The ISS is only 280 miles high in low earth orbit. Nowhere near the belts.
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Here’s nasa admitting the video is fake
No, what you have is an astronaut being pedantic. Conan said he watched the moon landing, and Buzz said that there were no cameras recording the landing (or at least transmitting it live). That makes sense because they hadn't landed yet. Also, assuming the transmissions required directional antennas, they wouldn't be aimed while the vehicle was descending. Once they landed, they were able to use cameras and antennas mounted on the LEM to transmit the first moonwalk and stuff.
😂😂😂😂😂 you didn’t see anything No one saw it cause it never happened. You watched animation exact words of an Astronaut who would know
you think they didnt have ANY studies of those in the past before they sent them? lol. get real. is that the new argument now since EVERY THING else has been debunked? "but...but...mah van allen belts!!"
give it up...
I am just sharing what the NASA engineer over the project stated. Which according to his presentation is that NASA has never navigated through the belts. Take it for what it's worth to you.
-_-
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z3EpaF2ONZ3v/ NASA ADMITS NO EVIDENCE OF APOLLO TELEMETRY DATA & THEY LOST TECHNOLOGY TO GO TO THE MOON? 2017
and it matters because the lie / hoax was to get millions a day, it MATTERS
Not 1970. I’m surprised you don’t know this, but that movie hit theaters in 1968.
NASA's real mission was not to explore space. It was to weaponize it. Full stop.
Not to justify any of the rest, but we did have the ability to remotely operate a camera in the 70's. Details are important.
Why some people is so obsessed with digging in the question about moon landing? Neither answer have any significance.
Option one - US Moon Landing was real. So what?
Option two - US Moon Landing was a hoax. Again, so what?
It does not matter.
Much more interesting and really significant question is why the humanity (all humanity, not just US), while having all tech and means to develop and explore Moon for a long time abandoned all attempts to do it, like somebody prohibited that activity in whole.
Moon, as any atmosphereless celestial body open to the solar and space radiation contains a lot of tritium, much more than you could produce on Earth nuclear stations. Tritium is ~$30k per gram. One ton of tritium is $30B So it is profitable to develop the Moon even only for tritium, that is expensive now and will become more expensive when it finally become fuel for really working thermonuclear reactors. However, even profit does not cause extensive Moon exploration.
Not trying to be mean but this comment is actually retarded. Your "interesting questions" are answered by the premise. If we never went to the moon it literally answers all your significant very amazing "thought provoking" questions in one fell swoop. You don't think that the moon landing is significant because you're a boomer that can't stand to not believe that what you saw on tv was fake.
I used to think the same thoughts why does it really matter if we went to the moon. But my reasoning was different. But now due to boomers like you getting very triggered irl and online by the moon landing. Even other generations getting triggered. It's clear to me that the moon landing opens up Pandoras box and that is why people choose to believe it happened, despite all the evidence it didn't happen.
I don't care if US went to the moon or not at all.
I didn't saw US moon landings on TV. They was broadcasted in USSR at the time, but I was not born yet.
To state that, you have at least to show some evidence that USSR Moon landings was a hoax too. I didn't saw any article or video with anything that could even distantly resemble the debunking of USSR Moon program with all that numerous Luna devices including ones that bring back Moon soil and few Lunokhod robots that crawled the Moon surface long ago.
Somehow you think that the World is limited with USA. But it's not. You missed significant part of reality that should be researched too in your search for truth. If you somehow ignore a huge part of reality and focus only on some local topic, then something is very weird.
You are bringing all this irrelevant stuff into the question of the moon landing (the one where they claim they walked on the moon), and it's disingenuous.
It's similar to when you're discussing main stream media lying and someone brings in why they aren't lying about the weather tomorrow.
Let's first talk about the moon landing then we can move onto other topics.
So, moon landings is irrelevant stuff in the question of moon landing?
You sound just like MSM. Do you understand that it is insanely stupid?
OK, let's talk about Moon landings: List of Moon landings I want to talk about: Luna-9, Luna-13, Luna-16, Luna-17,Luna-20, Luna-21, Luna-24.
Then, we will move onto other topics.
So you concede that the Apollo moon landings are faked?
I concede that there are a lot of inconsistences in the NASA results of Apollo moon landings that was presented to public.
I don't know if any of Apollo missions really landed on the moon, may be there was many failures and deaths, so NASA had to fake some, or all data. But I'm shure that manned landing on the Moon was technically possible at the time, so I don't leave out a possibility that one or few times they did it, just not in the way they presented it to public.
IMO, it shows the extent as to what they're willing to go through to lie to the public. Their credibility goes to trash. Now, I don't need any convincing about their credibility being trash, but some people out there do.
OK, NASA lies (not only about Moon, really). So, what is the point? Some state agency lies. There is no any new useful information in this. What's next? Just sit and feel proud that you know that NASA lies?
I perfectly understand what is the purpose of digging in say, WEF dirt. That could give us a knowledge of their next moves and prepare. I perfectly understand all that "connecting dots" adventure of finding links in the structure of society. This gives foreknowledge of where it going. Or searching for hidden technologies that we could use for our profit.
But this moonhoax... It's like spend a tons of efforts just to prove that CNN had lied at Feb 20, 2021.
IDK, even if take into account national significance of US Moon Landing in USA history, I still don't get the meaning of results. Even if I try to put myself in similar situation, say imagine that USSR Ekranoplan program of building giant flying at low altitude vehicles was fake, then so what? OK it was fake. How it is important? Curious - may be. But what is the use of permanent forcing and pushing that revelation everywhere and rising senseless disputes between those who believe that ekranoplans was real and tose who believe that ekranoplans was fake? What useful knowledge could be extracted from that fact and if any, how to use that knowledge to defeat, say, elites of anything or to spare yourself from some future shit?
I stated the reason why in my post. It's other people who need convincing.
What is the purpose of that convincing? What will change if every American will know that US Moon Landing was a hoax? It is even not in the top 10 of USA hoaxes. Federal Reserve USD hoax is much more important and doing harm for the population right now, but I don't see the same obsession in convincing people in USD hoax.
I like talking about the moon landing, taking photos, pondering the false light beaming from the sky. That’s why I am here. I am obsessed with alot of things. The moon landing (to me) is about as interesting as:
why is Russia always marked as the antagonist in the media? Seems like a big deep fake.
why is Jesus the only “religious figure” allowed to be ridiculed? (“piss christ” “art work”, can you imagine a “piss allah”?) lol
why is there a rumor that Billy Gates (gates of hell lol) wants to “block the sun” and buy up all my land? (I’m not selling)
why did the pope (201st pope, event 201 lol) and vatican call the their infrared telescope lucifer, invest millions in infrared sky mapping? (Supposedly they found a red dragon in virgo in 2017, why did google sky maps block it out?)
Why does the vatican (from google maps) look like a big pregnant crowned serpent with a big dead sheep in its mouth (St Peter’s basillica)?
Why does the core of an apple look like a vagina (eve and the apple) and why does the core of an orange look like a clock (clockwork orange)?
Is Paul McCartney dead? He doesn’t look like the original.
Why did the show I love lucy(fer) characters spell “LucyFER” L uci F red E thel R icky? was lucy actually a dude? (got grounded for that one lol)
Why is the word president an anagram of Serpent ID?
why did nasa have so many “apollo” rituals? and why is CERN’s collider (cernunnos the horned god) built on top of the temple of apollo (apollyon from revelation, the angel of the pit)
I am much like a 3 year old just learning and asking endless questions. The kid you want to suffocate. LOL
I regularly suggest to grumpy old fucks to just mute or block me like my grandfather did.
I like all your questions. But unlike moonhoax they are not settled, and need to be researched. Many have direct impact on what is going on.
Another *winner give me interesting answer -
Moonhoax is like the smashing best dreams, hopes and believes by stupid government agency. I don't feel like that, that is why I didn't understand the point.
it matters cuz it triggers you boomers
So, you don't care about real things, only about hype? Nice. :)
if it triggers you it must be good by definition
It does not triggers me, I don't care, I just try to understand what is the point of decades of meaningless discussions on insignificant question.
You should start from 7 Salutes and 1 Mir station. Have something?
nah if you didn't care you wouldn't type all triggered
I'm trying to better understand other people and trying to get what is the importance of the topic. So asking questions. Since when asking questions become "triggered"? Last time it was "actively joining into discussion to disprove opponent at any cost". I'm not discussing the topic at all and don't try to disprove it. There are even no opponents for me.
there's no compromise here
that's tried and failed
attack the argument not the person
Bonhoeffer wrote all about you.
...like us looking at the screen (allegory of the cave) right now?
The SR-71 was designed in the 1950s
the lunar orbiter took the shots. in a mission, there are three men. michael collins was the one who stayed in the orbiter taking the shots. educate yourself. k thanks
that’s why I asked. Educating myself. Thanks for the response.
Unless Putin comes out calling the moon landing as fake, you are going to believe it is real?
News flash: The Russian population is well aware that the Americans staged the moon landing.
Russian population don't really care about it. And those who care and think that US Moon landings was staged use completely different arguments than all that digging in NASA footage.
Besides Vodka and Kalinka, what exactly would you say that the Russian population cares about? Also feel free to share their arguments.
New version of iPhone and decent VPN for using facebook and other shitty "social media" is much more important things than vodka and ancient dances now. Kalinka even in USSR was just a history and vodka hugely lost its significance over last decades.
Can not have them break their programming, by looking into the fake moon stuff. Bread and circus, keep the masses entertained. Stop paying attention to what the government does not want you to know, that is what I hear you saying.
AFAIR talks about mooonhoax are 30 years old, if not more. Obviously that does not work. And even if that will work, what result is estimated?
I perfectly inderstand the need for debunking, say, coronahoax, I did everything what I could to debunk it and unveil the truth. It was necessary to literally save lives, right here, right now. What is the point of debunking moonhoax now? Why it is so important? Is it some sacral, religious thing for Americans, that should be destroyed? What is the place of US Moon Landing in the American culture? Or may be some important narratives that poison the life in US are based on that thing, so it is very important to destroy the base for that narratives?
Could you answer directly? I'm not a politician, I don't understand that indirect murky things well.
The point is that people will know the truth, and I for one care about the truth, even if other do not.
If I tell someone the truth, but all they care about is what their iPhones tell them, that is fine by me. But this is a conspiracy community, where the hole point is to talk about conspiracies, not your iPhone.
Your claim, not mine. Now you seem to claim that since Stalins right hand man did not come out calling it fake, you are going to assume it is real.
I would say if anyone important did. Russia, China, Japan, and others all have sent crafts to the moon, including rovers. If the US didn't land on the moon, then one of these space programs could easily find where the US allegedly landed and refute it. And yet, nothing.
If any of them were to make a case disputing the US moon landing it would be incredibly simple (if the US never landed on the moon).
The footage from the craft on the moon from China is so fake that it is not even funny. If you believe them, you might as well believe North Korea when they said they landed on the sun. It is not like the government would ever lie to you, right?
Not sure what footage you're talking about, so I can't really say whether or not I believe it.
China moon landing video: 'Jade Rabbit' rover soft-lands on lunar surface
https://youtu.be/XpAwmVPT758
Thanks!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY
Here you go. Good info debunking the Apollo missions from every conceivable angle using only primary source material.
You would know that if you had done a minimal amount of research.
Lmao bad bot
Mockery isn’t your forte, numbers guy.
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Sure buddie
they do keep banning moon youtube videos which is why we shouldn't post them publicly, or you bots will know about them
How did they transmit all that data lmao if you had minimal knowledge on video and audio you would know it’s impossible to send and save that much data on the memory they were capable of. Even nasa admits that video is fake
Nasa admits the video is fake? Where did they admit this? Please share.
Where did they admit it was fake
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Here you go wake up!!!
I don't necessarily believe anything the government says about space. That isn't nasa admitting anything
Lmao the astronauts that was there said you didn’t see shit it was an animation 😂😂😂😂
You said nasa admitted it. This isn't nasa. Why do you type like an imbecile, it's like you're trying to look stupid.
An astronaut that you think went moon who works for nasa just told you that you didn’t see shit 😆😂 So yes this is nasa admitting that the video is an animation. Your the one who looks stupid when they are telling it’s fake and your so hypnotized you can’t hear it
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽🤦🏽 Wake up
They transmitted all that data using analog signals over a wide spectrum of radio frequencies. Did broadcast television not exist in the 1940s?
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Ooops lmao
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Hahahhahaha you didn’t see shit
Please provide how it is. I’m not making the positive claim nasa is. How much data do you use for video. Also I am at work I’ll send you a link later where nasa admits the video is fake your behind on this stuff lmao
Apollo originally transmitted 10fps monochrome video in 320 progressive lines, which supposedly required 500Khz of bandwidth. Terrestrial color broadcast TV signals at the time, encoded with NTSC, required 5Mhz of bandwidth.
https://youtu.be/AMU_84_Re3o Hahahhhahaha 😂😂🤦🏽
There is no specs lmao if you have the specs and can prove that’s what nasa used please provide as nasa can’t even prove they sent data during the moon missions as they “lost” that super advanced technology 😂😂 nasa even says the memory they used is equivalent to a pocket calculator. How do you record that much video and audio with that little of memory you are really gullible if you believe these things sorry but you need to wake up
No one has the info so how would I have it. I looked for it and they said it doesn’t exist. I cant I give you something nasa can’t even give you. So you claiming they can do it is just wishful thinking. You have no idea what your defending