saw this before, it’s long, but a good review. there are some videos I am amazed are not taken down by youtube. Start at 3 hr 33 min (lol 33) to get to the meat.
Interesting. What if all these orgs are legit and strive in the purpose of preserving the Western culture and dominance and the real conspiracy is trying to make them all look bad as to speed up the decline of western society?
The links between masonry, the occult and societal degeneracy are too strong for that to be realistic. There is a (long!) video linked in a below thread (this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLA-iejhwek ) that makes those links explicitly clear.
I’ve thought on this too. The lower level (usually middle class or poor) ppl do the “good work”, “pay dues” to help blind people, homeless, elderly..while the large and exceedingly rich organizations (ie. lions) collect and hoard their money (dues and fees), then the states/govts make collecting donations to actually help fund actual well meaning functions nearly impossible, caps, taxes etc. Reminds me of the “Removing the salt from the earth” parable.
I’ve never been interested in Christianity or the Bible until joining my local lodge lol. This wouldn’t surprise me. They gave my a holy Bible after the master mason degree, and we always begin each meeting with the pledge of allegiance.
It’s basically a fraternity of all freedom and god loving dudes to get together and make their communities a better place
Do you now believe that the corrupted temple rituals have an occult or uninspired masonic influence. Did you learn truth when you were there? Funny they call it "temple worship"... I never saw any worship when there
Yes kind of agree. On the fence. we did good work for some blind kids (fishing derbies) when I served. the derbies were basically like christmas to them, a very big deal. The back patting ceremonies were stupid. The dues and fees were alot (to me), was the youngest in the “lodge”, most of the people were much older on fixed incomes, they spent half of a month’s income on yearly dues/fees. All the money went to the higher organization, while we were struggling to raise money in a state that hated charity and volunteerism.
I was the youngest president of one of the oldest “clubs” in the nation. Didn’t realize at the time how many lefty commies were members. I’ll never join again. By the end of my term, when they found out I was a pro gun “conservative” or “libertarian” it was a fucking nightmare. Bunch of cucked pansies. Took one guy (friend) from club to shooting range/gun store, taught him what to buy and how to shoot, his wife didn’t want us “hanging out” anymore. LOL!
I appreciate a thoughtful reply to an angry quip. In my current town, the Masonic temple is rented out for car shows, and the other fraternal organization just put their property on the market for sale.
There is something to be sad about, though, for a failure of community. Bowling alone is what Robert Putnum called it. We don't live in a high trust society, and further, we go off into our own groups of like minded folks in our own thought bubbles.
speaking of trust, one thing I took from time in mil, don’t trust people that never curse, use all the politically correct language, happy all the time, those people are borderline section 8 kill you in your sleep crazy. we called them crazy eights.
Someone never cursing is no bad thing. Nor those proceeding through their life with joy in their hearts.
What a, dare I say, Satanic message to instil into all of the members.
But yes, obviously most below the highest degrees are not bad people. And I can even understand the Satanic point of view on the world, though I dont agree at all.
I understand your point of view, I also understand the nature of man, when someone never gets angry or curses it seems “unhuman” to me, they are just hiding it and storing it for later use.
I think “curse” is also a strange word, why do we write in “cursive”? There are many words in the english language that are a “curse” in reverse. Perhaps why “grace” is very important. People, for example, name their own children curse words. “Belle” is one example (jezebelle). The word Bell in reverse is “whore”. Why would someone (ie John Denver) name their own child “Jesse Bell” (jezebelle)? All while hiding behind a “good” man’s persona. Surely he would be judged harsher than me?
I would rather someone just flat out cursed me, be angry, tell me instead of hiding plans and scheming behind my back. This is why Peter was called Satan and a disciple in almost the same breath, yet Judas hid his plans and sealed it with a “kiss” (there’s more to it than that but you probably get it).
I have found in my experience that people who “say” all the right things, are usually the ones doing all the wrong things. Perhaps I spent too much time around people that just speak as they think (military) however it’s still “my” experience.
Yes, you're not wrong. And this touches on the root of the great spiritual battle that high degree Masonry is engaged in.
For Luciferianism is about giving in to your animal instincts and "living in accordance with nature". If you want to kill, well there's killing in nature and allowed in nature and therefore cannot be considered wrong - see how the hornet slaughters hundreds of bees to get what it wants. Might makes right. Give in to your lust freely, for that is the force from which life originates. Helping the weak is wrong for it is not natural and would slow you/society down etc etc
There is a fair chance that John Denver is a member. One is hard pressed to find a celebrity that isn't a Mason or similar nowadays. For it is through Masonry that they are given power and influence. Some Masons are more concerned with hiding it than others. The pope, for instance, cant go praising Satan openly but will still throw up hand signs to worship him. (And make the inside of the Vatican look like a snake. And have a telescope called L.U.C.I.F.E.R ha). They have a way of rubbing it in your faces without you being able to prove it. Naming their girl something demonic sounds par for the course for them.
Yes, you're not wrong about that. Pay attention to peoples actions when judging their characters, rather than their words. There's some wisdom there.
Heh, didn't even really mean it as a "call-out" per se, just something to note.
They have already corrupted the population enough that they don't really need the lodges anymore. Soon, they're moving to their "New Age", and culling the population to below 500 million, so I doubt they care much.
That whole thing about Delta and Omicron making the eye in the pyramid....just seemed like a set up to me. TOO fucking perfect to have been a real calling card. People really could be trying to frame them, OR they really are scumbags. Its a club and I ain't in it, as some famous fogie once said.
Part of it is that they feel empowered to shove it in the publics faces through the symbolism. To them, we are the vulgar and the profane and would never understand.
And those of us who do, well, what can we do about it? Shit all tbh. People wont wake up easily and they hold all the cards. They have captured much while our eyes have been wide shut.
In the next 20 years my lodge will probably lose 95% of their members. Freemasonry and other similar groups are all drying up quick and struggling to attract the interest of younger crowds.
It makes me sad because a Masonic temple is such an excellent place to meet and discuss in complete privacy with no chance of intruders or eavesdroppers. I always thought it was perfect for patriots to meet and plan if shit ever hits the fan. But all of those same patriots all think it’s satanic and evil.
So….. we’ll see what happens. When all the existing members start to die out, me and the two other people under 65 at our lodge won’t be able to afford the bill and rent alone. We’ll either have to really try to get more people interested, or sell the building and drive to the lodge in the nearest big city.
Below the 33rd, the Satanic elements are only hinted at.
But seriously, what other clubs threaten you with all that gnarly shit for breaking your oaths to silence? That should be the first clue that there's something off about it.
Then there's the initiations with the skulls, with the daggers etc etc as you climb the degrees.
Woven throughout all the while is information that, when viewed a different way, is most certainly Satanic (as in, the laws of nature are the only laws, do what thou wilt, there is no good or evil -- that is where they will guide you up the degrees).
I know you don't believe me. That's fine. Its shrouded in Christian trappings to trap members with Christian values/sensibilities at the lower degrees, and you will never find yourself invited too high without seeing into what they are actually trying to teach you.
The only way Satanism could survive the last few hundred years was through the Masons and other orders/sects, which had to portray themselves as Christian to not be destroyed.
When the Masons work is done, every church will be a brothel.
Good. Fuck'em.
Now is a good time to share this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLA-iejhwek&feature=youtu.be
saw this before, it’s long, but a good review. there are some videos I am amazed are not taken down by youtube. Start at 3 hr 33 min (lol 33) to get to the meat.
Interesting. What if all these orgs are legit and strive in the purpose of preserving the Western culture and dominance and the real conspiracy is trying to make them all look bad as to speed up the decline of western society?
The links between masonry, the occult and societal degeneracy are too strong for that to be realistic. There is a (long!) video linked in a below thread (this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLA-iejhwek ) that makes those links explicitly clear.
I’ve thought on this too. The lower level (usually middle class or poor) ppl do the “good work”, “pay dues” to help blind people, homeless, elderly..while the large and exceedingly rich organizations (ie. lions) collect and hoard their money (dues and fees), then the states/govts make collecting donations to actually help fund actual well meaning functions nearly impossible, caps, taxes etc. Reminds me of the “Removing the salt from the earth” parable.
I’ve never been interested in Christianity or the Bible until joining my local lodge lol. This wouldn’t surprise me. They gave my a holy Bible after the master mason degree, and we always begin each meeting with the pledge of allegiance.
It’s basically a fraternity of all freedom and god loving dudes to get together and make their communities a better place
Do you now believe that the corrupted temple rituals have an occult or uninspired masonic influence. Did you learn truth when you were there? Funny they call it "temple worship"... I never saw any worship when there
the lodge in my town closed down 5 years ago and was replaced by the knights of Columbus. dont know much about them
Chances are high they doing illegal activities with minors. Hang them from the street lamp
Masonic lodges are on the decline? Good. Less souls on the road to hell.
Yes kind of agree. On the fence. we did good work for some blind kids (fishing derbies) when I served. the derbies were basically like christmas to them, a very big deal. The back patting ceremonies were stupid. The dues and fees were alot (to me), was the youngest in the “lodge”, most of the people were much older on fixed incomes, they spent half of a month’s income on yearly dues/fees. All the money went to the higher organization, while we were struggling to raise money in a state that hated charity and volunteerism.
I was the youngest president of one of the oldest “clubs” in the nation. Didn’t realize at the time how many lefty commies were members. I’ll never join again. By the end of my term, when they found out I was a pro gun “conservative” or “libertarian” it was a fucking nightmare. Bunch of cucked pansies. Took one guy (friend) from club to shooting range/gun store, taught him what to buy and how to shoot, his wife didn’t want us “hanging out” anymore. LOL!
I appreciate a thoughtful reply to an angry quip. In my current town, the Masonic temple is rented out for car shows, and the other fraternal organization just put their property on the market for sale.
There is something to be sad about, though, for a failure of community. Bowling alone is what Robert Putnum called it. We don't live in a high trust society, and further, we go off into our own groups of like minded folks in our own thought bubbles.
speaking of trust, one thing I took from time in mil, don’t trust people that never curse, use all the politically correct language, happy all the time, those people are borderline section 8 kill you in your sleep crazy. we called them crazy eights.
Someone never cursing is no bad thing. Nor those proceeding through their life with joy in their hearts.
What a, dare I say, Satanic message to instil into all of the members.
But yes, obviously most below the highest degrees are not bad people. And I can even understand the Satanic point of view on the world, though I dont agree at all.
I understand your point of view, I also understand the nature of man, when someone never gets angry or curses it seems “unhuman” to me, they are just hiding it and storing it for later use.
I think “curse” is also a strange word, why do we write in “cursive”? There are many words in the english language that are a “curse” in reverse. Perhaps why “grace” is very important. People, for example, name their own children curse words. “Belle” is one example (jezebelle). The word Bell in reverse is “whore”. Why would someone (ie John Denver) name their own child “Jesse Bell” (jezebelle)? All while hiding behind a “good” man’s persona. Surely he would be judged harsher than me?
I would rather someone just flat out cursed me, be angry, tell me instead of hiding plans and scheming behind my back. This is why Peter was called Satan and a disciple in almost the same breath, yet Judas hid his plans and sealed it with a “kiss” (there’s more to it than that but you probably get it).
I have found in my experience that people who “say” all the right things, are usually the ones doing all the wrong things. Perhaps I spent too much time around people that just speak as they think (military) however it’s still “my” experience.
But I do appreciate being called out.
Yes, you're not wrong. And this touches on the root of the great spiritual battle that high degree Masonry is engaged in. For Luciferianism is about giving in to your animal instincts and "living in accordance with nature". If you want to kill, well there's killing in nature and allowed in nature and therefore cannot be considered wrong - see how the hornet slaughters hundreds of bees to get what it wants. Might makes right. Give in to your lust freely, for that is the force from which life originates. Helping the weak is wrong for it is not natural and would slow you/society down etc etc
There is a fair chance that John Denver is a member. One is hard pressed to find a celebrity that isn't a Mason or similar nowadays. For it is through Masonry that they are given power and influence. Some Masons are more concerned with hiding it than others. The pope, for instance, cant go praising Satan openly but will still throw up hand signs to worship him. (And make the inside of the Vatican look like a snake. And have a telescope called L.U.C.I.F.E.R ha). They have a way of rubbing it in your faces without you being able to prove it. Naming their girl something demonic sounds par for the course for them.
Yes, you're not wrong about that. Pay attention to peoples actions when judging their characters, rather than their words. There's some wisdom there.
Heh, didn't even really mean it as a "call-out" per se, just something to note.
thank you for the thoughtful reply. People in this metasphere constantly teach me, an admitted heathen.
They have already corrupted the population enough that they don't really need the lodges anymore. Soon, they're moving to their "New Age", and culling the population to below 500 million, so I doubt they care much.
Did they all take the kill shot?
good point, yes.
That whole thing about Delta and Omicron making the eye in the pyramid....just seemed like a set up to me. TOO fucking perfect to have been a real calling card. People really could be trying to frame them, OR they really are scumbags. Its a club and I ain't in it, as some famous fogie once said.
Part of it is that they feel empowered to shove it in the publics faces through the symbolism. To them, we are the vulgar and the profane and would never understand. And those of us who do, well, what can we do about it? Shit all tbh. People wont wake up easily and they hold all the cards. They have captured much while our eyes have been wide shut.
In the next 20 years my lodge will probably lose 95% of their members. Freemasonry and other similar groups are all drying up quick and struggling to attract the interest of younger crowds.
It makes me sad because a Masonic temple is such an excellent place to meet and discuss in complete privacy with no chance of intruders or eavesdroppers. I always thought it was perfect for patriots to meet and plan if shit ever hits the fan. But all of those same patriots all think it’s satanic and evil.
So….. we’ll see what happens. When all the existing members start to die out, me and the two other people under 65 at our lodge won’t be able to afford the bill and rent alone. We’ll either have to really try to get more people interested, or sell the building and drive to the lodge in the nearest big city.
Below the 33rd, the Satanic elements are only hinted at. But seriously, what other clubs threaten you with all that gnarly shit for breaking your oaths to silence? That should be the first clue that there's something off about it. Then there's the initiations with the skulls, with the daggers etc etc as you climb the degrees. Woven throughout all the while is information that, when viewed a different way, is most certainly Satanic (as in, the laws of nature are the only laws, do what thou wilt, there is no good or evil -- that is where they will guide you up the degrees).
I know you don't believe me. That's fine. Its shrouded in Christian trappings to trap members with Christian values/sensibilities at the lower degrees, and you will never find yourself invited too high without seeing into what they are actually trying to teach you. The only way Satanism could survive the last few hundred years was through the Masons and other orders/sects, which had to portray themselves as Christian to not be destroyed.
When the Masons work is done, every church will be a brothel.
They don’t threaten you for breaking your oath. In my jurisdiction the word “symbolic” is said before saying what the penalties are