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posted 3 years ago by DrLeaks 3 years ago by DrLeaks +11 / -0
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– Mrexreturns 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

When they decide how you should live, the next step is that they decide you should not live.

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– TrumpIsMyPersonality -5 points 3 years ago +2 / -7

Banning abortions falls directly under the "decide how you should live" category.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Banning abortions, if it even gets overturned completely, is a medical procedure. Won't banning it, fall under State laws.

Why can't they move/go to the next state?

I doubt it will be the prohibition. It just means certain restrictions. Where let's face it. It hasn't changed much.

Are these women even pregnant? That's the bigger joke. There, they are, my abortion. Except, here's the thing, they aren't even pregnant. But OMG they could be. Exactly. Hahaha.

No I mean come on. They're getting all bothered before they even make that choice. They haven't factually been denied anything yet.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

One problem is how pregnancies are measured. A pregnancy is measured from the first day of your last period for convenience. But, women aren't fertile on average until just before halfway through their cycle. ( 2 weeks difference)

Most pregnancy tests require a woman to miss a period to have enough hormone in their system to test. ( 2 more weeks)

You are now 6 weeks pregnant, and have no woman's reproductive heath treatment options in Texas. ( but those weeks difference!)

I was 5 weeks 4 days pregnant with my oldest child when I found out. My body doesn't make enough of the hormone that is tested, so an internal sonogram was done.

If I had wanted to make a different choice, there would not have been time.

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– Ep0ch 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I do genuinely understand. There are plenty of anomalies like you suggested, hormones. As well as late cycles, missing cycles. Pregnancy tests that need to be read a few times, or by the hospital. No guarantees or certainities.

But questionably what did you want? Would you have changed it differently, if on being faced then with that choice. Why? Hindsight sometimes there is regret. With choice it's fickle to fancy. But could you? Young plenty can, others who hate to face an inconvenience, and would rather have all the options available.

But couldn't there be planning. Perhaps if it's not so available there's other prep. Like simple contraception. Not necessarily the pill. Perhaps condoms more frequently. I hate them as a guy, but don't regret them.

However there's the run off. Society today has been affected more. I am not sure it has created more careers. Less is often that occurrence. In fact I know women, mothers who often tend to be further ahead because of all that experience and strength gained by the children they develop. But they might be further behind others younger, and perhaps can feel trapped. Because there's always mistakes. Partner wasn't right. Health. Etc. But overall the run off women might not be as aware is a society which has skyrocketed. It fills its declining birthrates with foreign immigration increasing offshore investment. The result is much less home ownership. Increasing inflation. Many more. And something sooner starts lacking.

Also you're from Texas couldn't you go to a different State to get it done if you needed it done? Cost perhaps. Not covered on insurance. Or is there direct laws preventing it across state lines?

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– Michalusmichalus 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Your question about my choice has a very dramatic answer. This is your warning not to read it.

My big sis was further along in her pregnancy than I was. She woke up one day to not feeling the baby move at all. Long story short, the baby had died. My sister was unable to get treatment the regular way due to insurance stupidity, and doctors vacations.

Mind you having a known dead baby inside you is bad for you both physically, and emotionally. My big sis ended up walking into a planned parenthood type place ( it may have even been PP), and told them the baby was dead, and she couldn't get a D&C.

She had an abortion. The baby had been known to be dead for 5 days. They gave her better treatment, and care than the obgyn office that were willing to be policy bitches at the cost of my sisters life. ( doctors were available, but not the right insurance).

I'm not from Texas, and my medical history makes me a woman that has been offered abortion to very late term.

But, I think you can understand that experience above while I was in the first trimester gave me a different perspective than not wanting kids because I have too many younger siblings.

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– Ep0ch 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

An abortion for a dead baby? Scientifically I struggle with this. The body naturally rejects it. It might need medical help, if it's further along. Sometimes there are complications on it. Although not often, it drops out quickly, it isn't developing. The procedure is not called an abortion. That baby is aborted, miscarried, it was already dead. Yes it is absolutely devasting to lose any pregnancy, by miscarriage. But suggesting you need an abortion for miscarriages is wrong.

Also I understand your youth and studies. It affects your life and image immediately. But again why not plan and makes sure you have contraception, when fertile, if it isn't right then at the time. I do also understand your youth. Care free, it can't happen, until it does. But it does. Why run to a hospital to stop something you could have done yourself much easier beforehand by simple contraception? An inconvenience maybe. But instead of all that regret. It's huge. Something there, all that worry, not right, costs abortion, then more regret after. Until it kinda hardens you. That experience. Wouldn't it. I mean how would it make you feel, if you didn't have your son? Sure it's easier to blame it could've been different. But it what it is. It wouldn't be any different? Honestly.

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– Michalusmichalus 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

The word, " abortion" is a medical term with a specific definition. More people need to learn this. Suggesting that something you don't understand is wrong is asinine.

This is why laws about this topic are written so poorly, female reproductive health isn't the lawmakers area of expertise.

I had both my children while on bc. And, my ExHusband only had one scrotum. Birth control failures are very high when you consider what 1+% of the number is. I tried 3 different methods, and not one of the three worked for my body.

You ask entirely to many, " what if?" questions for a good faith discussion. No mother in their right mind would say online that they would have aborted their children that are alive, and no longer a thought experiment.

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– DarkBrandon -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

How do you feel about the looming threat of contraceptive bans?

I've seen some radical lawmakers propose condoms be banned.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not funny. You're obviously another hysteric. Dildo bans, however.

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– TrumpIsMyPersonality -4 points 3 years ago +2 / -6

are these women even pregnant?

HUH?

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– Ep0ch 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You have no humour. Are they pregnant? Simple question. Exactly. So why are they at an abortion rally? Because they might get pregnant. How do they know they want an abortion. It seems like a joke. They haven't factually been denied anything.

There you are buying a what if. What if they can't have an abortion? It's the same what if they could. Are they actually faced with that choice? Before they're screaming what if.

But you have no humour.

Regardless, State Laws. If it indeed gets overturned. It only means a restriction. It might take better planning.

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– TrumpIsMyPersonality -2 points 3 years ago +2 / -4

What the fuck are you talking about Chang?

Are the people getting abortions pregnant?

Lay off the mirin and MSG.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I am not Chinese, retard. Women have abortions when they're pregnant. So why are they protesting? Think. It's an absolute Oxymoron. It's illogical.

They could get pregnant, they're not, they'd have had an abortion, but they're protesting for abortions. Because it could happen. Yea you could get pregnant. How about it? Seriously it's very funny don't you think.

They haven't been denied anything.

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– user20461 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Nope, it just means you won't get away with murder. Nice try, satan.

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– Michalusmichalus -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3

Banning abortions is murder

https://ph.theasianparent.com/mother-dies-hospital-refused-treat-her

&

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/11/woman-ireland-dies-after-being-denied-abortion-during-miscarriage/321475/

There are hundreds more.

You have made the mistake of not understanding that the word abortion is a medical term used entirely different than the way it's used colloquially.

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– user20461 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Abortions are murder.

Nearly 65mil in the US alone, 1.6b worldwide. The greatest genocide in human history and it will never be matched.

http://www.numberofabortions.com/

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– Michalusmichalus -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

You've made the choice that the life of the mother means nothing to you. You're a murderer

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– deleted -5 points 3 years ago +2 / -7
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– user20461 -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

your "god" is a faggot and you should kill yourself so you can spend some time with him

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– TrumpIsMyPersonality -5 points 3 years ago +1 / -6

Nobody will miss you. Nobody.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

If anyone can modify another's words there's no reason to state you opinion. You can save time and let the modifier write your words for you.

That woman has gotten very big headed very quickly.

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– no_ez 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Look at how fast she blinks her eyes and throws her UGLY head around. CLASSIC mental illness signatures, right down to the autistic, fake, and annoying laughs at inappropriate times.

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– King_of_Crazy 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Winston Smiths job in 1984 was modifying context wording. Here we are.

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– Michalusmichalus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It only took 20 years of shit education to get people shroud enough to want those things.

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