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posted 3 years ago by qbqb 3 years ago by qbqb +7 / -3
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– Primate98 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You might have to recalibrate much of your analysis with this thought: everything the Western Neo-Colonialists did was based on the threat of war, not on actual armed confrontation.

No matter what you think of their goals and methods, they are neither stupid nor insane. They knew well that Ukraine, even with the full aid of NATO, could not stand militarily against Russia. Russia sees this as an existential threat, so they are playing for all the marbles and will pursue to the very end. Don't be misled by their "delicacy", which is solely to minimize civilian casualties and destruction of civilian infrastructure. They have any hard feeling whatsoever towards the ordinary Ukrainian.

The war was over militarily within the first hour. The Ukrainian cause was easily determined to be hopeless by the end of the first day. So what we see uniformly since then is that it has turned into a "war" made up of terrorism, public relations, fakery, various grifts, and innumerable war crimes. That's the best they could salvage from a situation that they thought would never happen.

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– Mrexreturns 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

It's deliberate. America has a history of betraying allies after all.

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– the-new-style 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ukraine is the world's #61 in oil production (2016 data).

https://www.worldometers.info/oil/ukraine-oil/

Current production

https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/crude-oil-production

That's how Kolomoyskyi had the money to financed Azov and other Nazis, and then install Zelenski after the 2014 coup.

Putin (who described Kolomoyskyi as "a unique crook") has the Russian Army targeting his oil wells.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/04/rise-of-zelensky-from-comedian-to-president/

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– newuserfromreddit -1 points 3 years ago +3 / -4

It is impossible for Ukraine to defeat Russia in direct war.

Idk seems to be going relatively well for Ukraine so far.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1
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– newuserfromreddit -2 points 3 years ago +2 / -4

Why is it always some variant of "just wait" on this .win? I swear, I spent a good dozen "just two more weeks" waiting for the mountain of election evidence to appear and reinstate Trump in office.

It already has been a few months, lol. Russia started their invasion on February 24, 2022.

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– Eu-is-socialist 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Because idiocracy is a documentary !

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It could end with nukes much sooner. At the going rates of escalation. Nothing would surprise me.

Besides if it goes worse more proxies will flare.

If you think nukes are off the cards. Russia has that approval for use in the Ukraine. It might be a later resort.

Could Russia chance it, remains a bigger question. How would Nato react if nukes are deployed to a localised conflict? They are massively arming with their troops partially involved. In probabilty it escalates. But it has. Therefore further escalation remains inevitable.

Of course there are peace deals but these aren't favourable to either. What happens. Russia won't withdraw from the Crimea, and the Separatist republics. If pressed pulls the trigger. Ukraine won't ceed them either.

Reiterate what happens?

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Not if Nato keeps supplying more weapons and starts inserting more troops. Weapons like German tanks, and more advanced mobile artillery units, it might not give F16s, but other nations are sooner supplying older Soviet MiGs, but it is supplying drones, and these might become more advanced. It is increasing in foreign troops, some nations are even committing their special ops.

Russia can win certain objectives, undoubtedly.

But it's back to square one if it escalates further. Because if Russia fully wins the contested regions, and then it wants a peace deal. But why would Ukraine reach it. It keeps getting armed. What peace deal will lose its coastline. Meanwhile Odesa is faster being reinforced. Regions claimed are under attack and in resistance. But bigger losses commit more Nato. Look at that outcry, daily calling on warcrimes, on support, on whatever.

A few nations are also at that point. The longer this plays out. War could even save their face. Otherwise that witch's cauldron brewing, bubbling, and stewing of austerity and protest and hyper inflation will sooner start to catch up. Into you tell me?

The latest from Russia, it will directly attack any new armaments, and possibly even the foreign troops deploying and supplying. Tanks get supplied along with mobile artillery etc, guns, arms, and drones. These get hit. Doesn't it escalate.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1
... continue reading thread?

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