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Uk farmers are losing money on every egg they produce (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 3 years ago by dukey 3 years ago by dukey +55 / -0
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– Skyrison 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

whenever a council, or board, or any government thing gets in your industry? expect it to be utterly fucked ;)

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– dukey [S] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Article here if you want to read the rest: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10683371/UK-supermarket-costs-Four-pints-milk-increase-50-1-15-1-70.html

TLDR: food prices will sky rocket

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– no_ez 8 points 3 years ago +9 / -1

Fuck that price control bullshit, I’d sell my eggs on the black market before I lost money...

Is 30p (55¢) per dozen really breaking them? Profit margins are super thin if so...

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– operation_eland 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

In the UK the vast majority of people shop at a handful of supermarkets (Tesco, ASDA, Morrisons, Sainsburys, Waitrose) and they are pretty ruthless when it comes to prices. We have had numerous instances of this where supermarkets pay producers less than it costs to produce a given product. Honestly your options for where else to sell aren't great. A handful of wholesalers and large customers in the food industry.

I live in a rural area and I get my eggs from a local farm who sell theirs directly and to numerous market traders and farm shops locally. They'll be OK.

The vast majority of farms are in trouble though.

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– no_ez 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Wow, that sucks. I forget how ruthless British Robber Barons are, and what a dystopian socialist nightmare the economy of Britain is.

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– operation_eland 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's a shit show all round. The vast majority of the food supply in this country is controlled probably by about 2 dozen companies. Tesco which is our main supermarket has something like 27% of the business. It uses 1% of the total electricity output of the country in a given year. There are a handful of companies which buy up most of the milk output. These days there are a handful of massive abattoirs.

Farming in most European countries is governed under a policy called the CAP which comes from the EU - the UK has left the EU but I believe the CAP is still in effect pending the introduction of our new national farming strategy. It's basically supply management. Farms are heavily dependent on subsidies and have various methods which manage what they produce and what they're paid. In many cases the subsidies are the only things holding the industry up.

One of the only countries I know of which abolished farm subsides is New Zealand when they had a severe economic emergency in 1984. I believe even to this day one of the only subsidies they have is on diesel fuel for irrigation. Oddly enough farming did pretty well since. New Zealand has a reasonably popular dairy industry and their lamb is quite popular.

France is the main beneficiary in Europe of the CAP. French farmers get paid a lot of money to not farm and do very well out of it. Although UK farming has cleaned its act up a lot since the BSE outbreak. It probably wasn't the worst thing to ever happen to the industry. The food is generally better quality now than it was in the 80's.

I know in some countries its worse. I have no idea why its so screwed up but dairy in Canada is controlled under some sort of monopoly which makes cheese very expensive. From what I've heard its even more dysfunctional than the CAP in Europe.

Subsidies also cause serious issues in America - especially when it comes to corn. Whenever I'm in America I notice the high fructose corn syrup in things from the taste. The beef in America can sometimes leave something to be desired and I know many farmers feed their cattle on corn instead of grass which is crazy because cows evolved to process grass, not corn.

Subsidies really produce perverse results wherever they are employed in most cases.

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– no_ez 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

💯 subsidies are corporate welfare. Why heavy subsidies on only corn and soybeans in US? Monsanto-Bayer, that’s why. You wanna grow bell peppers? FUCK YOU!

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– Eu-is-socialist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We have had numerous instances of this where supermarkets pay producers less than it costs to produce a given product.

We have had numerous instance of this where supermarkets pay imbeciles less than it costs to produce a given product.

FTFY

And good ... FUCK THE SOCIALIST IMBECILES !

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1
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– Eu-is-socialist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yep ... nothing about the imbecilic shoppers =))

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– cyberrigger 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I have some jumbo quail.

They are egg laying beasts.

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– OrangeCatBad 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm perplex are the prices regulated? Why don't the farmers refuse to sell the eggs unless they are sold at a profit?

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– Eu-is-socialist 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Because the money is in the SUBSIDIES .

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– dukey [S] 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

The problem is supermarkets are so aggressive with their pricing, and are slow to raise prices. There will be some farmers out there that bought significant amounts of say chicken food on the old lower prices that are still able to make a profit with the current prices, but this is a temporary situation at best. Supplying a supermarket with anything is not a business I would like to be in.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Aka The Cobweb Theory

Or, the hog cycle.

Price goes up, so production goes up, leading to over supply and price crash, to under supply, to price rises - due to the lag between price change and hog life cycle.

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– the-new-style 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Supermarkets tell you what they will pay.

Take it or leave it.

The supermarkets themselves operate on about 6% gross margin.

The whole system operates on a knife edge.

Walmart sold Asda, the UK's second largest, because it was too much risk.

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– OrangeCatBad 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

In the states farmers are able to sell direct to consumer, so when the grocery store don't buy the product the local community generally does especially if the item is hard to get at the supermarket

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– Eu-is-socialist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So? Who cares ! Let them loose ... then let them go bankrupt ... someone else will fill the void left by the imbeciles and the whole economic cycle will restart !

FUCK THE SOCIALISTS !

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So they raise the price on eggs.

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– Standhaft_Garithos -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

How much does a chicken and chicken feed cost?

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– irdc 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

Yeah, cool, I'll just keep a cow in my backyard then.

Societies have always relied on trading food and other items. The marketplace has been the center of towns for thousands of years. The problem is globalization - they should be getting grain from their countrymen, not from foreigners.

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– the-new-style 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

We have 1 acre per person. The US has 6.

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– the-new-style 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That is the total land surface, per person.

Which is very different to "arable land available for cultivation, per person" - which is approx. 1/5 acre

https://www.savills.co.uk/research_articles/229130/274017-0

An acre of arable land is about $10k to buy, if you can find such a small parcel

https://search.savills.com/list/farms/arable-farms-for-sale/uk

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– RandomFurryDude -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Sorry for not being born with 100 acres to my name.

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– Eu-is-socialist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Just keep shoveling subsidies at the leeches ... that will surely help you get land of your own.

Now please eat the shit like a proper socialist !

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– the-new-style 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

And the UK has less than 1 acre of arable land per person.

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– RandomFurryDude 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Sure thing, toughguy.

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– RandomFurryDude 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Sure thing, toughguy.

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– RandomFurryDude 0 points 3 years ago +0 / -0

Sure thing, toughguy.

You're not fooling anyone by being a handshake and proclaiming to be fucking conan the barbarian while spending half their life on a reddit-clone.

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– IGOexiled -1 points 3 years ago +2 / -3

Fuck the weak who depend on grocery stores like the spoiled, lazy ignorant rabble they are.

You've got no bar codes in your pantry?

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– RandomFurryDude 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Handshake

Stirring up shit

Ooooookay.

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– RandomFurryDude 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Sure thing handshake.

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– RandomFurryDude 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

K handshake.

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– IGOexiled -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Good man.

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