Anybody? No name calling please. Is it possible to turn this ship around or has the ship sailed too far away and the deed is done? We came REAL close to a big turn around and it started to go the right way but too many 'nay sayer's shitted on it and now look where we are. I hope you 'nay sayer' people are happy!!!!! Like the current 'economy'? because your about to get a WHOLE LOT MORE!!!!!!
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Other countries? Well I wasn’t there in the 80’s... so i can only speak for my country.
America First policies. Metals or commodity based currency. Industrial base. Ending Planned Obsolescence and making quality, durable goods. I sincerely hope China cuts off all trade with the United States permanently.
A lot of other countries are or were before Covid started to have their own little (1980s) boom to them. Ireland got into computers not too long ago and they started becoming rich and are having a 'mini' boom era just before Covid hit. It caused them to build more motorways making it faster to get around where they used to have tiny narrow roads that would make what SHOULD be a 45 min trip from each end of the island take twice as long.
That's what Trump aimed to do and sort of did but you idiots kept him occupied otherwise and made sure he became a pen and paper President. If he had your middle ground support, we wouldn't be where we are today that's for sure!
“Idiots?”
What, me worry?
You call us idiots but I don't think we are on our "dead conspiracy board"
Your the ones that voted this shit in so that makes you guys the idiots.
Oh yeah? Well bring it on.
remove the federal reserve then eliminate interests and taxes. break up monopolies and allow small business to flourish, Crt + Alt + Delete anything meta related.
the books would balance themselves!!!
As for monopolies they are the worst! Not only have they taken away freedom but they have given capitalism a bad name and makes it ring sour in most young people's mouth.
yeah everything good we come up with gets hijacked
Monopolies are a feature of capitalism. Not a bug.
Unrestrained and unfettered, a single monopoly controlling all businesses is the inevitably of capitalism. That's assuming wars, famine, disease and our own hubris doesn't take us out first. Which is highly likely.
I get everything but the last one. What is meta related? Is it something to do with meth?
no it was a refence to Facebook or social media as a whole.
I sense a deflection
Yes. Return to sound money. The 80s were ~10 yrs post species. It would take some time but too could do it with oil. We are largest oil producer. We could become a petro state, fix the issues, and then diversify towards a basket of commodities.
Venezuela did everything ultra socialist and went broke within a few years. Hillary on record stated she 'couldn't be more proud of Venezuela' when they did shit stuff with their oil and people there were starving. They were among the largest economies before the current leader stopped caring.
The currency basket approach doesn't necessarily require socialism though. I'm advocating the central bank serve as a broker of commodities as a means is stabilizing the currency. Similar to how they used gold to back the dollar previously. Not ideal but then again neither is our current situation.
The short answer is: Yes, and national governments are working on it right now.
As for the long answer, ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, nations on both sides of the Iron Curtain have realized that this might not have been such a great idea after all. Not only did it allow for various terrorist splinter cells breaking away from their masters' control, but it led to the entanglement of national economies, to the point an otherwise local banking crisis in 2008 affected the whole world. One way or another, national economies and major currency players would need to get separated.
The solution: Well, how about starting another Cold War? One side does something so reprehensible (or so the media say) that it's "sanctioned" by getting cut off major banking systems and currency markets; its supporting nations face similar restrictions; international companies also pull out citing moral reasons; their remaining on-site assets are quickly nationalized... and the lines are drawn. Welcome to Cold War 2.0, now in glorious HD quality. And maybe some peace and quiet, where both sides have a great foreign enemy to fight, economies are kept lean and mean, and international banking cartels are torn to shreds.
Fact of the matter is, the conflict we're seeing right now has been coming for a long time. Not in the sense of being planned to unfold exactly in the way it is, but rather, the current events are merely the excuse for measures prepared long in advance.
Cause it was planned by secret societies, just like the other two world wars?
They don't plan it but they do take full advantage of the situation to further themselves at our expense. They leave the planning to us and we do their dirty work.
Oh, I'm pretty sure they do.
I suggest reading about the Black Hand.
If it weren't for PCEM to run Windows 98 stuff that Virtualbox cannot ever hope to run I'd be done with Windows. I think there may be a Linux fork but I've heard it's a nightmare to setup as with most things Linux.
If its back to the 80s years of recession and double digit interest rates, you can look forward to it already!
Am I now?
Am I what now?
DO WHAT NOW? SPEAK UP, SONNY?
I was born at the end of the era but we all took it for granted choices we had and at least here in the US most stores still had followers of the founders left in charge whom at least pretended to care about the business unlike today. Hell even Amazon was innovative till the last several years and nobody seems to give a fuck anymore.
Clothes were still cloth and food didn't have anything other then just regular sugar in it. No High corn syrup that makes you fat among other things and no other weird shit they throw in that keeps the food 'lasting longer'. Seriously when was the last time you EVER saw bread go moldy? They have these yogurts that don't need to be frozen which is VERY suspicious and I don't trust any of it one bit.
We went this way from the mid 90s onwards as we said 'fuck capitalism' and started pounding a square peg into a round hole trying so hard to make it fit and now it's a fucking mess with no answers except a one world government it seems.
WTO Battle of Seattle was the death of the American Counterculture. The new counterculture is based america first Moral people. Everyone else is a globalist neocon.
I blame Dunkaroos man. Dunkaroos and fruit rollups.
I asked you that question, don't try to deflect.
no. those days are long over.
No. And it is not possible with great reset either.
If you don't get it, study basics system theory of stocks and flows.
Compare energy/food/materials resource stocks/flows to 80s and 2020s system complexity, number of resource consuming actors, tight coupling interlinkage and systems oscillations.
Something's gotta give. Probably amount of people, level of consumption, amount of complexity and globalised interdependency.
We blew it trying to interconnect a broken system together. It's like linking expiring or expired smoke alarms and you think you have full protection but actually don't. You test it and hearing it beep you think you have full protection but in actually the sensor chamber may have degraded a lot. All you just did was ensure the electrics and beeper worked.
The "economy" for decades has been the fed loaning America money at interest so there was never enough currency in circulation to pay back what was owed. It's a house of cards playing kick the can on thin ice.
Well it appears the ice is breaking up and they are probably going to blame it on 'globular warming' or something stupid.
We're at extremes. The only way to get into a good position is to harness being at extremes to our advantage. Whatever thing they want, we go hard at the opposite and make sure they can never have it again. We can't go back to thinking everything is fine like they did in the 80s. We need to all know and be ready and willing to prevent them from gaining control again.
Well things were not actually fine in the 80s but the mood and vibe was completely different. Watch any old 80s driving/shopping videos or earlier on Youtube and you can see people had more respect for each other for the most part. Those that didn't stood out more where now those that respect are the ones that stand out and it should not be this way!!!
Careful now, you're going to completely scramble boomer brains with this sort of rationality. Their lives started easy, and progressively got harder- no critical thought the entire time. Now, still without critical thought, they simply want their little bubble to go back from hard to easy- and they want a savior to do it for them.
You forgot in the 80s we had actual stores to go do and most were still ran by their original founders which all changed from the 90s onwards. Either you forgot or were not born yet as I said.