Sure there are a few morons who don't know any better and fell for it, but the vast majority of the posters want to destroy the achievements of the white man and make anyone associated with conspiracies look like a looney tune.
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Also intended to selectively discredit truthers
Correct. That's what I meant by discredit an entire group of people. Well poisoning.
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Learning about 8 inches per mile squared of drop/curvature really fucked me up, how can I see things that I shouldn't be able to see on a curved surface, and no, refraction doesn't make up all the missing drop, or at least I haven't been convinced as such.
That being said, I don't know where I stand, I know NASA produces almost exclusively bullshit, photoshops, greenscreens etc - So I know that I can't trust them with much certainty. However, the 'flat earth' community, or any opinion that doesn't have to go through some kind of vetting/authoritative body is also hugely open to just being wrong or incorrect in any number of ways.
Flat Earth versus Heliocentric represents what to you? A suggested conflict of reason between want vs not want; believing vs not believing; good vs bad; truth vs false etc.
What if the parasitic few use suggestions to cause the conflict of reason (want vs not want) as to a) gain control over what both sides are reasoning over; b) to cause division (reason) by suggestion (-isms) and c) to keep both sides in ignorance of need.
Before one can use free will of choice to choose between suggested want vs not want; ones choice responses to balance under natural law aka need/want for form (life) within flow (inception towards death).
Now ask yourself...does one "need" the suggested shape of this world; or does one "want" it? Furthermore...KNOWL'EDGE, noun - "perception of that which exists". What one perceives is inspiration from everything moving; while all the suggested information by others are shaped by their choices out of everything perceived.
Ask yourself again...does one need to believe vs not believe the suggested information from others or does one need to adapt to everything perceived?
In short...resist consenting to conflict (want vs not want), and instead respond to balance (need/want).
I already see everything through the dualistic mind set, so it's not so much that I need a reminder to get into a certain mindset of engaging with need and getting rid of want. It's all just an act, a play, so why not play a few little roles, have a dance here or there.
a) Suggested dualism is the issue; since DUAL, adjective [Latin , two.] - "expressing the number two"; which deceives you to ignore being ONE (form) within ALL (flow), and furthermore that ALL represents ONE in energy.
Two implies ONE using choice in response to ALL perceived to count other ONEs. Nature doesn't offer "two"; it offers every differentiated ONE within ALL.
The -ism of dualism implies your choice of wanting or not wanting the suggested dualism; which then puts you into the conflict of reason (want versus not want) with all the others who consented to the suggested -ism. It's called division (reason) by suggestion (-ism) and gives the few control over both sides of every conflict the ignorant many consent to engage in.
b) As form (life) within flow (inception towards death) it's flow that predefines the balance (momentum) for forms choice of response. The balance for choice represents need/want aka need to struggle for self sustenance as form within flow by choice based adaptation to balance...or the wanted temptation to ignore this for whatever other form is suggesting.
Forms position as choice within the balance (momentum) of flow is what represents the need for self sustenance; while being temporary form (growth) within ongoing flow (loss) makes flow also the constant temptation for form to ignore self sustenance. One cannot get rid of temptation; life needs to struggle to grow within the temptation of ongoing loss.
From the energy perspective...the velocity of flow causes the momentum; within which resisting form gains the temporary potential to grow or choose to ignore it; while being flushed away by the velocity from loss of potentiality.
a) act represents action; which implies EN'ERGY, noun [Gr. work.] - "internal or inherent power"; which is what causes internal balance of loss/growth aka flow/form; which is where each of us represents the re-action to aka the choice based response to balance aka the resonance to perceived sound.
b) the play acting you refer to represents the suggestions of others for which you ignore being the reaction to the acting energy.
c) the parasitic few can only play their roleplay identity games; because the many are ignoring what they represent...ONE within ALL and ALL being ONE in energy. They even suggest a sleight of hand for this to those with eyes to see..."ALL for ONE and ONE for ALL"
d) the few are playing the many; while suggesting them for example to be the players (gamers) of entertainment (enter tame mind) who are in control (holding the controller).
You kind of have to choose between one or the other when making a point, otherwise it's near impossible to converse with someone
What if choice represents the response to balance; wouldn't that imply balance to be the point of choice?
As ONE potential within ALL potentiality offered...did you perceive impossibility or was it suggested to you?
a) CONVERSE, verb intransitive [Latin, to be turned with or about.] Doesn't ALL flow implies every ONE form within to be turned about?
b) CONVERSATION, noun - "general course of behavior". As choice (form) within balance (flow); doesn't choice (form) based resonance to the momentum (balance) of motion (flow) represent the general course of behavior for self sustenance?
c) does intercourse represent needed agreement vs disagreement (reasoning) among choice or does self sustenance predefined by balance (need/want aka procreation/lust) leads choice of natural opposites (female/male) into intercourse anyway (unless effectively corrupted by pornography; entertainment; identity politics; religions; poisoned water+food intake and pharmaceuticals?
Even while fucking up; we somehow still fuck around...both need and want work together (balance and imbalance) to keep the supply of growth potential going steady; no matter how much effort we put into destroying ourselves. Can't fuck with balance; when you're the response to it.
d) consider communication without the use of idolized meaning (words)? Notice the lack of prolonged conflicts of reason (like half a century of pro-life vs pro-choice) among all the other life-forms; yet if you ever spend overnight in the woods; you learn that the resonance of communication just dims a little; yet sustains momentum. Now compare that with holding feuds for millennia (oh vey).
They're getting good. You almost seem human. Planting seeds of doubt then saying "but I don't know."
Mate, if you think I'm a bot and not just a regular human being who isn't wholly convinced one way or the other, but that finds the dialog, topic and general conversation interesting, then maybe you've gone too far down the rabbit hole. Don't get me wrong, there are obviously a lot of bots on the internet, but your quippy dismissive 1 liners are far more bot-like than this response or my response above.
I'll level with you: after chasing my tail trying to have genuine engagement with flat earthers and flat earth fence sitters, I've learned the only way to deal is through ridicule.
Ridicule? That's pathetic. What is interesting to me is that this should not be a subject. If only there was one true picture above earth. Just one is all it would take, that wasn't NASA. You would think there would be one by now. I'm a fuckall, dont care either way, but it does seem that if you are round earther, you believe in NASA . That's why round earthers are the worst anal bastards I ever come across.
They want to keep the illusion going. NASA doesn't give you a real picture because the controllers want people divided. Why do you think that there isn't a single "expert" studying ancient civilizations, temples and artifacts are able to solve a single thing.
The world is one big money scam. All food diets are straight garbage, to keep people unhealthy.
Pharmaceutical self explanatory.
We cannot leave the Earth regardless of the shape. Space is a billion dollar industry.
Gravity is either fake, or completely different to what we are taught. To keep us dumbed down and arguing with each other.
Fake religion, billion dollar industry.
Fake government.
Boston Bombing = scam
School Shootings = disarm the citizens
Hitler = depopulation
George Washington = fool people into thinking they aren't slaves.
It is all one big giant scam.
And we got a front row seat. Crazy times.
You'd still be retarded.
Got a pic? To share with a fellow retard?
How do you rationalise the 8inches per mile squared drop-off due to curvature, and the subsequent many tests of people sighting objects that were present (buildings) or that they placed (light sources) or in some instances lasers, over distances that should presumably be curved, according to the globe model
Lol. Top of a mountain. When all of the air contains water. You think youd see a straight line 😂
What white accomplishments are you talking about? The fake moon landing? The fake ISS? The fake NASA theory of spinning and twirling and blasting through space and time at obscene speeds along with the stars just to make you think Australia is upside down? Lol some accomplishments for the “white man”. I can think of a million other things we have actually accomplished beside Nazi Freemason NASA propaganda.
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So when you say flat-earth are you talking about the mudflood/reset/tartaria as well or just simply the flat-earth cosmology?
Flat earth/firmament.
Got it. Yes it seems stupid, especially if you want something that will make the geologists squeal you're better off going with the Expanding Earth theory - at least that one makes the tectonic plates fit together they way they should! Flat earth is stupid. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=expanding+earth&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3HDb9Ijynfo
I haven't heard of expanding earth theory but based solely on what little you've said here it makes wayyyyyy more sense than FE.
Yikes.
Here's a 3 minute video of ships and other structures disappearing over the curvature of the horizon. This isn't for you, this is for someone who isn't shilling flat earth well poisoning, but doesn't have the ability to discern larps from reality. https://youtu.be/NKQI18jr8Oc
Muh "thick air" can lick my thick nuts.
Sounds like you may have overdosed on redpills tbqh.
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Another religious person trying to use their books as an example. Not a single religious person understands their own book, you all use your imagination. The earth in those text is not the one we live on.
Nor is the nothing/darkness referring to a black hole. How many more of you people do I have to swat, it's never ending.
We got a live one, boys
a) matter (temporary form) represents response to ongoing flow aka formed out of flow. How? Flow causing momentum (balance) for the responding choice of form to sustain self temporarily within the ongoing.
b) compare time as perceived ongoing measurement of form responding to flow (tick; tick; tick...) with time suggested as past; present and future aka three affixed states that deceive those who consent to them to ignore the ever changing moment(um).
c) flow represents force of velocity; form represents force of resistance within velocity.
What causes separation? Flow applied to everything (potentiality) causes differentiated form (potential) within itself. Why? Because applying loss (flow) to the potentiality of energy: causes a momentum within which temporary growth (form) responds to the balance within ongoing loss, and loss/growth represents the internal power of energy aka its self sustenance.
I don't believe in a big crunch, though I do believe in heaven and earth fervently melting and fleeing away and being made new. I've always said flat earth as IFERS teaches it is dead, and can only work with total realignment and redefinition. In this sense we might use the word "flat" to describe an effect that occurs from light warping. Plus, the fact that our eyes are 3D means that we will continue to perceive higher dimensions (and lensing too) as 2D only, until we can interpret the full dimensionality; so I think that explains the visual plane you describe.
While I agree with you in rejecting the time bubble, I don't get planar eternity from that. The word eternity is poor anyway. I have no problem with M theory describing the cosmos as 10-dimensional (or isomorphically 11-dimensional), and that would be the brane I attribute to the word eternity. However, time itself appears 1-dimensional, though I think a second temporal dimension is curled within the Planck instant, so time could easily become planar and thus differently arrowed (though never arrowed against itself, and never motionless for creatures). But true eternity is spatiotemporal, not temporal.
The insight about defining cores as a form of black holes is valid; black holes as currently defined are almost entirely malevolent, but the definition is very flaccid and also doesn't account for a white hole at all, so there may be a larger class that can still be called "black hole" and have some beneficence, as Hawking hinted. However, it boggles my mind to try to unfold (flatten) more than one black hole at a time. It would be like trying to invert upon multiple points at infinity at the same time. Maybe you can link me to a geometry where that is meaningful. Maybe we could go back to Riemann zeta zeros, because the infinity of them are all one in polar coordinates?
Also, on the sphere earth, all roads lead to your antipode, so, in the curved universe, all light rays ultimately come from your antipode in the extra dimensions. This fact is as astonishing as its repression. Getting people to stop thinking of themselves as in a bubble and to start thinking of themselves as being in a curved world where there's more than one valid way to get long distances is an important paradigm shift. But then that speaks against classical flat earth too.
That implies fear for outcome; while ignoring being within momentum (balance within); which causes lack of understanding about origin. Both origin (inception) and outcome (death) are within the ongoing (eternal) same.
Avoidance represents ignorance of response (choice to balance).
HU'MAN, adjective [Latin humanus; Heb. form.] implies temporary formed out of ongoing flow; while life implies temporary momentum in-between being moved from inception towards death.
Human doesn't represent eternal; AN'IMAL, noun [Latin animal from anima, air, breath, soul.] does. Both terms (human and animal) are suggested to deceive us to ignore being animated form by animating flow.
Potential (growth of form) represents resistance to potentiality (loss through flow). Each of us represents temporary possibility within infinite possibility; while impossible represents the suggested inversion aka "not" possible; based on ignoring perceived everything for suggested nothing.
We only perceive it as a path; because we consent to suggested past; present and future aka three points of measurement. Understanding ones position within momentum (balance) of movement (tick; tick; tick...) changes perception of path (towards) to momentum (within); which in return defines choice as responsibility (until).
Energy to loss (flow) to momentum (balance) to growth (form). Being directed by (flow) causes choice of direction within (form). Choice of form requires directions to evaluate movement within balance; while energy processes loss/growth internally for balance. Therefore balance doesn't have any direction issues; only the choice within balance that responds to balance needs to perceive directions.
Direction is limited to choice.
A picture is called a captured moment; a movie is called a motion picture. An even more obvious sleight of hand represents mo-cap aka motion capturing. The so called past represents ignoring that which is (momentum) for that which was; which we mentally capture within conscious memory (misusing ram as a hard-drive by filling it up with information).
When you look at the past; you're remembering aka responding to your own memory of that which was; while ignoring that which is. Adding to this self corruption come two more a) every one having a different understanding of what they're perceiving; which corrupts others when suggesting to exchange memories with them and b) our favorite little parasites who industrialized not just the memorized past; but also propagate the suggested future, and ruthlessly corrupt the ever changing moment with a present they define by suggestion of both past and future.
One doesn't need to remember; one is tempted to want to remember; and the ego caused by consenting to uphold idolized meaning (suggested words) puts that temptation as a self restriction upon both comprehension and perception right into our conscious memory. What one needs to do is respond to balance by choice aka adapting to the momentum; while resisting the temptation to want to capture it.
This is for example why the parasitic few selling flowers to the ignorant many...instead of learning/teaching ourselves about momentum through perceived temporary beauty; we idolize the beauty by worshiping dying flowers. All the bullshit we do to keep flowers longer beautiful; while ignoring the very momentum one needs to adapt to; to sustain ones life.
Anyway...altering the past represents the few shaping the memory of the many by means of suggestion. Historical revisionism and his-story itself represents that very tool of alchemical transmutation (shaping) of ones ignorance based memory.
Yet how easy is it to suggest fear; which deceives those who consent to it to live a present in fear of a future that doesn't exist outside their corrupted understanding?
It's not about seeing the future; but about consenting to the suggestion thereof; while ignoring everything perceived.
a) DIMENSION, noun [Latin, to measure]; which implies choice based evaluation of value perceived within balance (momentum of motion); hence as form within flow, so eternal represents flow; while dimension represents form.
b) the "re" in re-entrance is interesting; since flow to form (inception); form within flow (life); form to flow (death)...exit form equals entrance flow; while response of choice becomes impulse of balance for choice of others...all at the same moment (um). Great stuff.
So bubble represents momentum of (eternal) flow; while visually represents evaluation by choice of form within the momentum bubble. Flow has no visuals; form only form makes the consequences of flow visible. Without form; there's no perceivable communication of visuals.
The closest visual example for flow could be the base-line of a sinus curvature aka the ongoing potentiality for the temporary growth of potential within.