Uh, through the grace of God, even a non-believer could be saved. Further, the rapist/murder may have repented, but that doesn't mean salvation either automatically just because you have a come to Jesus moment.
And he doesn't seem to understand the point of replacing actual sacrifice with a proxy.
I never really thought about it till now, but perhaps these people really did commit sacrifice so often that having ANY ritual would suffice...not even due to the makeup of the ritual itselt, but just because people become so inured to repetition that they cannot live without it. Just continuing with their life structure, but without the bloodshed part. Give them a physical act of any sort...they are the sort of people more grounded in the physical plane anyhow.
Also, look at the name of his story, "The Love of Christ", and then how he goes on to describe a rather gross scenario which is entirely unnecessary to the point he is trying to make.
That is a disturbed mind to me, and not one that should be trusted.
Under some variations of some denominations, once you accept Christ, you're automatically saved. This is not the case across the board. Some say that you have to have faith AND good works, or it's all a show.
Likewise, some denominations say non-christians are damned, but other ones say that if they have not actively rejected Christ and have lived a good life through the "natural law" then through the grace of God they are saved.
I am no theologian, but you're painting with a very, very broad brush. This leads directly to your bad syllogisms.
[Eze 18:21-25 ESV] 21 But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? 24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. 25 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just?
[Gen 6:1-8 ESV] 1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. 5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7 So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
Thank you for clarifying that your allegiance is to the humanly stated principles and not to any person or org including the Creator himself. You have sated my curiosity.
Sure, I can get on board with leaving force/violence as a last resort and only to be used in the defense of our natural rights, as you've described
Why the pledge, at all, though?
Why not simply live your life as a sovereign being, no need to pledge to any creator or architect?
Pledges are not a requirement to obtain approval from my God, nor will your spoken words alone get you past Heaven's Gate
God knows what's in your heart and mind, and He doesn't give two flying fucks if you pledged to the right God in this lifetime
Your actions in life illustrate which God you have pledged your soul to
My God puts Truth and free will above all else, and those who operate in the darkness are about to feel the swift and mighty hammer of His Light
If you really are a warrior of Truth as you claim, then "May the Good Lord be with you; may your Guiding Light be strong" - R. Stewart, Freemason of unknown degree
I agree that lucifer is referred to as the lightbearer
We are talking about the father of lies, though, aren’t we? It stands reason that the father of lies who’s made an enemy of God would claim to be the Lightbearer, an inversion of the Truth
Isn’t the King James Version from only a few years after copernicus, a freemason, pushed the globe lie?
Isn’t king James the king in name only who banned any other versions of the bible to be printed
Why would I believe any book, distorted and perverted over the centuries
I go with what I see for myself
We, as Gods children, prefer the Light to the dark
Light obliterates the darkness, no contest
To me, this is a good comparison of how strong I believe my God to be and how it compares to Satan, the self proclaimed prince of darkness
Maybe a better word would be “agent” instead of archon. I see that you distrust the organized binding of Christianity, but would you acknowledge that the man Jesus was host to an agent of Go(o)d? I see a similar spirit guiding the actions of many, across many “faiths” and many “times” and many “locations”
Have you read the Nag Hammadi scriptures? Where do you source your understandings from?
I read through "predestined for suffering" and appreciate some of the points considered / questions asked especially about the contradictions forming the foundation of the Abrahamic religions ie the existence of Hell and why an omnipotent omniscient God destine a soul to Hell to be punished for eternity?
And if no Hell, then why these other things?
Regardless of who or what is or isn't watching over me, I'm just going to continue following the Truth wherever it takes me, and I find this topic supremely interesting
Hmm kinda seems like we got our wires crossed... judging by your other comments in this thread (correct me if anything is wrong):
You call God the Grand Architect or El
You posit a “first son” of God, who you call Rael, who sounds largely synonymous with the demiurge or yaltoboath or satan
You suggest that Jesus, and those who exhibit the Christ Consciousness are agents of/manifestations of Rael
From this I surmise that you believe Lucifer to be a “good guy”, or in the language I was using, an agent of Go(o)d - so it seems we see different sides here as the “Good” side, so maybe you could shed some light there?
Yet you also say that you find great value in the Nag Hammadi scriptures...one which springs to mind, which conflicts with your claim about Jesus, is the Pistis Sophia, in which Sophia, the mother of the demiurge, also brings forth Christ, to make up for the suffering wrought by her ill-conceived first son.
I haven’t had a chance to check out any of your links yet
Ahh so Lucifer is also Rael... is there any agent representing El who hasn’t fallen? Or is part of your ethos that each individuated divine spark is sovereign, with no need for a Christ, and thus looking for any kind of “guiding star” external to yourself is inviting deception?
On a tangential note, I’d be interested in your thoughts on the 17m documentary I linked in a post of mine
Likewise, have you heard of the hidden hand interview / “the Ra material”? What are your thoughts on those? More deception from this Rael character?
I'm part of the Committee of 300 and you are one of my underling minions that I sacrifice for fun. AMA. LOL :-D
Uh, through the grace of God, even a non-believer could be saved. Further, the rapist/murder may have repented, but that doesn't mean salvation either automatically just because you have a come to Jesus moment.
And he doesn't seem to understand the point of replacing actual sacrifice with a proxy.
I never really thought about it till now, but perhaps these people really did commit sacrifice so often that having ANY ritual would suffice...not even due to the makeup of the ritual itselt, but just because people become so inured to repetition that they cannot live without it. Just continuing with their life structure, but without the bloodshed part. Give them a physical act of any sort...they are the sort of people more grounded in the physical plane anyhow.
Also, look at the name of his story, "The Love of Christ", and then how he goes on to describe a rather gross scenario which is entirely unnecessary to the point he is trying to make.
That is a disturbed mind to me, and not one that should be trusted.
Under some variations of some denominations, once you accept Christ, you're automatically saved. This is not the case across the board. Some say that you have to have faith AND good works, or it's all a show.
Likewise, some denominations say non-christians are damned, but other ones say that if they have not actively rejected Christ and have lived a good life through the "natural law" then through the grace of God they are saved.
I am no theologian, but you're painting with a very, very broad brush. This leads directly to your bad syllogisms.
[Eze 18:21-25 ESV] 21 But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? 24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. 25 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just?
[Gen 6:1-8 ESV] 1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. 5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the LORD regretted that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7 So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
To whom is your allegiance?
I do not consent to you lying to me.
I do not consent to you deceiving me.
The hidden master is the demiurge?
Ty.
What is your certificate number Brother Brent?
LOL OK bro.
I remember you. To whom is your allegiance?
Thank you for clarifying that your allegiance is to the humanly stated principles and not to any person or org including the Creator himself. You have sated my curiosity.
Aren’t the Masons a part of causing/encouraging the illicit activity you claim to condemn in that letter?
Who is the Serpent?
How does it feel to be part of the gayest larp of all time?
The mystery schools have been the gayest for a long time before we got here.
Your a liar and full of shit.have fun.
Freemasons are God's warriors? The big man himself wont let you sit in a chair?
Why dont you tell us about the witchcraft being used against us?
Isn't there witchcraft being used on the population keeping their blinders on, keeping them sedated? Any way to break their spell?
Next time the local lodge does a spaghetti dinner, I might just go find that chair.
Oldmancountry17 will respond but I'd be surprised this would be news to you?
It's been claimed that "witchcraft had to go into hiding due to Jesus arriving on the human scene"
Parallels drawn comparing how similar the supposed initiation of Freemasonry to the ritual performed when one is joining witchcraft
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5sfWXjs5v4oV/
Appx. @ 3:05:00
I have three 9’s in my birthdate, how can I dissociate myself from that and strengthen my connection to Jesus Christ?
What can you tell us about Racine and the water computer they are building there?
tell me something in regards to lost history.
Who is the archon of Go(o)d?
Sure, I can get on board with leaving force/violence as a last resort and only to be used in the defense of our natural rights, as you've described
Why the pledge, at all, though?
Why not simply live your life as a sovereign being, no need to pledge to any creator or architect?
Pledges are not a requirement to obtain approval from my God, nor will your spoken words alone get you past Heaven's Gate
God knows what's in your heart and mind, and He doesn't give two flying fucks if you pledged to the right God in this lifetime
Your actions in life illustrate which God you have pledged your soul to
My God puts Truth and free will above all else, and those who operate in the darkness are about to feel the swift and mighty hammer of His Light
If you really are a warrior of Truth as you claim, then "May the Good Lord be with you; may your Guiding Light be strong" - R. Stewart, Freemason of unknown degree
♥
" My God puts Truth and free will above all else, and those who operate in the darkness are about to feel the swift and mighty hammer of His Light "
I'm not sure how you draw from that I meant Lucifer, the great deceiver
Literally the opposite of what I said, and almost exactly the same as your "mighty hammer of justice" used in your supposed letter to Leif Johnson
I agree that lucifer is referred to as the lightbearer
We are talking about the father of lies, though, aren’t we? It stands reason that the father of lies who’s made an enemy of God would claim to be the Lightbearer, an inversion of the Truth
Isn’t the King James Version from only a few years after copernicus, a freemason, pushed the globe lie?
Isn’t king James the king in name only who banned any other versions of the bible to be printed
Why would I believe any book, distorted and perverted over the centuries
I go with what I see for myself
We, as Gods children, prefer the Light to the dark
Light obliterates the darkness, no contest
To me, this is a good comparison of how strong I believe my God to be and how it compares to Satan, the self proclaimed prince of darkness
Maybe a better word would be “agent” instead of archon. I see that you distrust the organized binding of Christianity, but would you acknowledge that the man Jesus was host to an agent of Go(o)d? I see a similar spirit guiding the actions of many, across many “faiths” and many “times” and many “locations”
Have you read the Nag Hammadi scriptures? Where do you source your understandings from?
I read through "predestined for suffering" and appreciate some of the points considered / questions asked especially about the contradictions forming the foundation of the Abrahamic religions ie the existence of Hell and why an omnipotent omniscient God destine a soul to Hell to be punished for eternity?
And if no Hell, then why these other things?
Regardless of who or what is or isn't watching over me, I'm just going to continue following the Truth wherever it takes me, and I find this topic supremely interesting
Hmm kinda seems like we got our wires crossed... judging by your other comments in this thread (correct me if anything is wrong):
You call God the Grand Architect or El
You posit a “first son” of God, who you call Rael, who sounds largely synonymous with the demiurge or yaltoboath or satan
You suggest that Jesus, and those who exhibit the Christ Consciousness are agents of/manifestations of Rael
From this I surmise that you believe Lucifer to be a “good guy”, or in the language I was using, an agent of Go(o)d - so it seems we see different sides here as the “Good” side, so maybe you could shed some light there?
Yet you also say that you find great value in the Nag Hammadi scriptures...one which springs to mind, which conflicts with your claim about Jesus, is the Pistis Sophia, in which Sophia, the mother of the demiurge, also brings forth Christ, to make up for the suffering wrought by her ill-conceived first son.
I haven’t had a chance to check out any of your links yet
Thanks for sharing
Ahh so Lucifer is also Rael... is there any agent representing El who hasn’t fallen? Or is part of your ethos that each individuated divine spark is sovereign, with no need for a Christ, and thus looking for any kind of “guiding star” external to yourself is inviting deception?
On a tangential note, I’d be interested in your thoughts on the 17m documentary I linked in a post of mine
Likewise, have you heard of the hidden hand interview / “the Ra material”? What are your thoughts on those? More deception from this Rael character?
Sooooooo when are you going to make good on your promise and slot “Joe” and the fed bois?
I see... well if you can get it done before 2022 that would be great! Much appreciated I’m sure everyone here will chip in and buy you a beer