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posted ago by Mad_King_Kalak ago by Mad_King_Kalak +24 / -1

Ask yourself a question, with generals like Milley and VPs like Pence, how many would have followed his lawful orders? Remember, Trump in his last days also had to fire a general who wanted to stay in Afghanistan. In his last year he also had to fire a Navy Admiral who wanted to go after that Navy Seal (Gallager I belive his name was) that Trump had specifically told him not to prosecute and whom he later pardoned.

The military brass wanted him gone. Like in every coup, both sides calculate who is on their side and who is against him. Trump knew he couldn't pull it off.

Before anyone says I'm some Q supporter or TDW fan club member on hopium, I'm not. And if you're coming here to say Trump was all an elaborate ploy or ruse by the deep state, you're brain dead.

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TurnToGodNow 11 points ago +12 / -1

Of all the people Trump himself appointed how many were obvious deep state operators? How many did he end up firing later and should have never hired?

He did a few things to keep people hoping, but he took 1 step forward for every 2 steps back.

Steve Minuchin (skull and bones member), Rudy Giuliani (part of the 9/11 false flag), Wilbur Ross (Rothschild banker who bailled Trump out), John Bolton (neo-con war hawk), Mike Pompeo (neo-con warhawk), his CIA director, Gina Haspel, he appointed was instrumental in Bush's torture program, and the list goes on. Where were all the legit patriots appointed to his cabinet? I'm not seeing any.

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pizzakek 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm divided about Trump truthfulness but surely this isn't a cause.

That high into politics/business (same thing at that level) you just can't risk those kind of enemies, and they will want to be all over you for status (and on that level you will too).

If he antagonized any of these people before the popular opinion was informed about them he would have been waged an unwinnable war.

Not saying this is it - just saying that in both cases that would have happened.

False positive.

edit: actually it would have been more suspect if he antagonized them. The chances would be higher he was controlled opposition.

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Skyrison 6 points ago +6 / -0

he should have kept steve bannon the whole time...HUGE mistake

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Trump's hiring and firing decisions are both a mystery to me at times, or a product of him being the consummate outsider. Why was his Secretary of Transportation Mitch McConnell's dumbass wife? Yea, deal making.

I don't think Trump is a 9/11 truther, so Rudy was a normal pick for him. And as for Bolton, he admitted that fucker was a mistake.

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TurnToGodNow 2 points ago +2 / -0

If Trump can't* see 9/11 is an inside job he is worthless to me. Rudy is also obviously in bed with the establishment.

"was a mistake". I don't see any mistakes all I see is bad intentions.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

He saw all the wars in the middle east as a waste, which was what 9/11 was meant to trigger, which is close enough.

He may, or may not, have thought that it was an inside job. Remember, your opinion that was an inside job is in the minority, so I doubt he'd express it publicly.

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TurnToGodNow 0 points ago +1 / -1

He talked a good game, he didn't get our troops out of the middle east, he sent more into Syria to "get the oil". He said on the campaign trail he wanted to steal oil from countries we invaded.

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Harambe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Honestly I wish we were stealing more oil, gas is expensive

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Graphenium 2 points ago +4 / -2

I don't think Trump is a 9/11 truther

Does that make him a 9/11 lier?

Also, don’t you remember:

“Release the 18 pages!”

Lmfao, it’s the saudis?

“Always was” pop

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

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no_ez 1 point ago +1 / -0

Didn’t Trump go on infowars once? I mean, he probably doesn’t zero hedge or r/conspiracy. Bob Barr wad a big no no.

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Zap_Powerz 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trump did the task he was meant to do and that was to get the process of devolution going in earnest. He was an agent of change. He fucked up the cabals plans. Knowing or not, I do not know. What I know is that had he not been elected, Hilary would have been and the cabal would have stay on track with their depop plans and great reset.

He threw a wrench in that plan and now they have had to accelerate and do things they did not not want to do when the did not want to do them which has exposed them.

Now more people see the corruption and are willing to do something about it.

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QPLUSWONBIGLY 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lock us down for 4-5 years, completely destroy the economy. Vaccine + passports + contact tracing on our gov supplied iphone 17+ all released and mandated simultaneously. Quarantine camps for the non compliant. Your neighbor would be happy to turn you in by then. End of Killary second term. The vaccine was ready to go, but she would have been celebrated for creating it in only 4ish years.

Military would have never been rebuilt, wall never built. Immigration at its current level but instead of 2021 it would have been '17 - '24. Employment levels right around where we were for 15 days to flatten the curve. For multiple years.

Most would have been worn down enough to cave at that point. Imagine how much pro vax propaganda they could have pushed out in another 4 years before it's release. Oh and no EUA, we're talking full FDA approval. So mandates would be legal.

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KiloRomeo 6 points ago +6 / -0

I don’t think he’s a patsy and I don’t think he’s coward though I think he lacked some of experience other politicians have to properly work XOs to combat the DS

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree, totally.

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Blackbeans 5 points ago +5 / -0

Media and elites truly hate him. If not, he would be chumming it up right now a la George W. He got duped and trusted more than he should have. He did some weird moves. But he still was a monkey wrench in the 4 years of Hillary which probably would've resulted in some serious constitutional rights being thrown out the window.

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cee8hooz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Media and elites truly hate him.

Hate can be faked.

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QPLUSWONBIGLY 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ive pondered this as well

But thats a lot lot lot of faking.

By a yuuuuge amount of people.

For what?

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cee8hooz 2 points ago +2 / -0

For giving credibility to their puppet of course. To make people not active during critical part of their plan of course.

Of course this is dooming maybe. We will see,as maybe there will be some show with Durham. I hope so,despite there were so many hopes...

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trump was kayfabe, sorry bro.

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sneedger 2 points ago +2 / -0

What you miss is that fat, cringe generals like Milley aren't needed. Give the word in a speech, information will filter down. Civilians and military grunts alike would have followed.

That said, he didn't pull the trigger because he didn't understand the historical situation. He grew up in a much better time, and that colors his perception of today.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

A grunt knows that his ass ends up in Leavenworth if he comes down on the wrong side.

People always say "our military enlisted are based!" and that they wouldn't attack the American people and take our guns. Sure. They wouldn't shoot or bomb citizens, generally speaking. But NOT attacking civilians is a far different thing than actively following Trump to cross the Rubicon when your chain of command is saying not too. Now, Ike could have done such a thing, a Caesar who personally commanded the troops had their loyalty could do such a thing...but some E4 or O3 way way way down the chain doing it for Trump? Naw.

But to your second sentence, I agree. I think Trump thinks with some silly Boomer optimism he can save the system from itself.

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sneedger 3 points ago +3 / -0

A grunt knows that his ass ends up in Leavenworth if he comes down on the wrong side.

Say Trump gave the word. On one side is every armed citizen, every trucker, farmer, welder, etc.

On the other is some fat gay freaks.

A big figure giving the word would be sufficient.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you're overly optimistic.

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SpicyCoof 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump was pawn but didn't know it.

Or he did and played his part.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Up the the point that he won in 2016, to the surprise of many, you may be correct.

His nomination was helped along by gobs and gobs of free media, the Dems and Jews in the media thought he was toxic and would usher in a Hillary landslide. They believed their own polls and so didn't ramp up the election fraud machine.

By election night 2016, when they stopped counting for hours and hours and went looking for votes, it was to late.

So, they tried to alternately destroy him and co-opt him. He was onto it right quick, but alas, got out played.

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Graphenium 1 point ago +6 / -5

Trump was all an elaborate ploy or ruse by the deep state

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NoGreatResetAllowed 5 points ago +6 / -1

Who said the military was ready to deploy the vaccine. That line alone should be questioned in the conspiracy community.

that said I voted for him, believed that he did some good things like cutting regulations and nixing various UN agreements. Of course all those things have been reversed or will be.

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axolotl_peyotl 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why? What was accomplished with Trump that couldn't have been accomplished with Hillary?

Don't tell me the radicalization under Trump was necessary, because they would've done that anyway.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. People, they spent 4 years doing everything possible to destroy Trump. If Hillary had won, their plans would be much further along, and they could have done it without Trump exposing the rigged game.

Sheesh people.

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Graphenium -1 points ago +2 / -3

If Hillary had been the one picked, all the angry rightoids and angry leftoids would have United. It would have been “Occupy everywhere”. Don’t tell me you think the first time the vote was stolen was 2020 lmfao.

And so, we got trump, who’s mere existence guaranteed that half the population was kept consistently mouth-frothing at the other half

Also, a Hillary admin could never have convincingly pulled off Jan 6th or kickstarted this whole “muh domestic extreeeeme-ismists”

Also, Trump is an idol, we will never be saved by idolotry

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Graphenium -2 points ago +1 / -3

Oh and covid could have never played out the way it did, Drumpf was integral to this scam

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Skyrison 3 points ago +3 / -0

how? i keep hearing this here. explain? because all i saw was a man who called out a lot of shit, and EVERYONE in the government and controlled world couldnt fucking stand it.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

A ruse or ply by the deep state that they did everything in their power to stop, while also screwing over Hillary. Mkay. That's your way of coping I think.

I'm willing to admit that they never thought he'd win in 2016 and thus didn't ramp up the election fraud machine, they thought they had a Hillary landslide coming.

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Graphenium 0 points ago +2 / -2

“I’ve never heard of controlled opposition, therefore it can’t exist!”

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not saying I've never heard of controlled opposition, and therefore it doesn't exist, nor would I ever. I'm saying Trump was not controlled opposition.

Do you believe you have telepathy?

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Graphenium 0 points ago +2 / -2

I believe we all possess (latent 99.999% of the time) telepathy.

We also possess sarcasm, guess which these two (now three I guess) comments were?

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is a reason that people write /sarc on the internet, it's really hard to tell with the written word.

And yes, I agree that we all possess some latent telepathy, double, double blind studies on, of all things, whether mediums can interact with the dead, have revealed that. They actually are picking up data from the person rather than speaking to the dead. But that's not what you were doing. You were assuming I was making a certain type of argument, which I wasn't. Honestly, though, I suppose it's because of habit.

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Junionthepipeline 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump couldnt cross the Rubicon, the Democrats did and succeeded.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The point of "crossing the Rubicon" is that everybody knows that this time it's different. The Democrats pulled off an election steal....and then went on like nothing happened and lied that it never happened. That's not crossing the Rubicon.

But I get your point, and it's a fair point.

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1Shark 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes, and I still am. "Crossing the Rubicon" comes with risks, up to and including death. His sacrifice would have unequivocally exposed the Deep State and eventually would have sealed their fate. He would have been remembered as the greatest President to have ever lived. His age should have made that sacrifice an even easier decision, as he has already enjoyed a long and extraordinary life. I am willing to put my life, my treasure and my sacred honor on the line to retake our nation, but I will only follow someone who is also willing to risk the same.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need an American Bastille Day. But he would have given the orders, and they wouldn't have been obeyed.

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1Shark 2 points ago +2 / -0

They would have been obeyed by the 80 million patriots that voted for him, and that would have shown the cabal who was really holding all the cards. We aren't going to win hearts and minds on this one. The only way we will defeat the enemy is by destroying them without mercy.

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Mad_King_Kalak [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

You think so? All 80 million of us? It's more than 80 million probably that voted for him.

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1Shark 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think all of us who are in fighting shape would have. I also think more than 80 million voted for him. If 100 million voted for him and just 10% of those were capable of bearing Arms in battel then he would have been in command of the largest army ever fielded, and we would have had the enemy hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned. Unfortunately, the opportunity has passed and is not likely to be repeated. Those type of opportunities are once in a lifetime, and Trump failed to pull the trigger when presented with his. It is possible that he underestimated the support he would have, but then I have put myself i danger without any backup in situations where my principles were on the line. I can accept no excuse from someone who wants to be the leader of the free world.