And if you’re a good boy, you’ll get a prize when you die and all of your relatives and loved ones will be cheering! Even your dead dogs will be there!
In my (anecdotal) experience, people are usually indoctrinated into religion by their family and peers.
Some escape and gain perspective and may test the waters of other religions, such as Buddhism, but most stay with what’s comfortable and familiar.
The sense of community people gain from religion can sometimes be what keeps them in it, despite knowledge of such heinous practices as shuffling pedophile leaders around the country, in an effort to suppress the truth.
You forget that on this train of logic, we the humans were the first to make the biggest dick move dude. It literally didn't have to be this way and we weren't supposed to live in this hell hole and yet here we are and until I get to leave, I'm gonna live my life as close to God as I can because this place bites the big one and it only gets worse. Good luck man.
meh.. that argument has been BTFO already.. you should really brush up on the Meterialist vs. Theist (Christian) debate arguments. As things are right now the leading minds on the materialist side are saying they wish amateur Atheists would stop making such bad already debunked arguments because it's only adding more nails to their coffin and embarrassing the movement.
Current state of Materialism = "I know it's the most irrational position, that all the grammar, logic and rhetoric are not in my favor but I refuse to accept the facts anyway" Literally that. The only way to not know this is if you are living in a self inflicted bubble of ignorance.
But don't take my word for it, go find the absolute best arguments against Materialism there is then decide for your self.
Most of Atheism is nothing more than pop culture propaganda now days.
Yeah that's a really good point, definitions are important.
Though ScutFarkus is certainly trying to use the quote as an argument and using it against the Jewish/Christian concept of God, which is a great deal different than pagan concepts like Zeus, it's a somewhat common misunderstanding among Atheists.
he is able, but not willing. That does not make him malevolent, its his intentional design choice because otherwise we do not have free will
This. We have Natural Law, which does not change, and we have Free Will. Free Will is the chaotic component added to Natural Law.
Yes, children’s cancer is a part of “free will.”
There are many horrible aspects of life that could have been omitted while keeping “free will” intact.
“He” (god) is either a cruel, tortuous being, or non existent.
There is no middle ground.
Cancer didn't come along until artificial foods and vaccines became main stay
Ask yourself, why would Christ heal cancer when society would not learn the error? Why reward bad behavior?
And you honestly believe that, don’t you.
Cancer was written about by the Egyptians.
5000 years ago.
Life is a test.cry less and adult more kiddo.
And if you’re a good boy, you’ll get a prize when you die and all of your relatives and loved ones will be cheering! Even your dead dogs will be there!
Mmhmm.
Whatever you have to think to make the pieces fit.
Actually, he makes a good point. Mark Passio explains it very well in his Natural Law seminar. We are subject to Natural Law and Free Will.
ScutFarkus is a shill, thus he doesn't have free will.
He's trying to cope.
https://youtu.be/rDcFMcQBnfM
Atheists are so thin skinned.
It’s a fairy tale told to low IQ, easily influenced people in a last ditch effort to keep them in line.
“Remember, he’s always watching.”
In my (anecdotal) experience, people are usually indoctrinated into religion by their family and peers.
Some escape and gain perspective and may test the waters of other religions, such as Buddhism, but most stay with what’s comfortable and familiar.
The sense of community people gain from religion can sometimes be what keeps them in it, despite knowledge of such heinous practices as shuffling pedophile leaders around the country, in an effort to suppress the truth.
Crabs in a bucket, if you will.
There’s certainly an end to what any teacher can show you. Even psychedelics.
As Alan Watts once said, “if you get the message, hang up the phone.”
"If God real why bad thing happen"
What makes a man think?
What his body is?
What his mind is?
What compels him to try and describe or understand what he is feeling, or seeing, or what reality is?
Yes, because Humans are willing to prevent evil. They are sometimes able and sometimes not.
Yes, because Humans are willing to not be omnipotent. Humans have free will, but can also be deterministic.
He is able and willing, yet also not able and not willing.
One might think...
When people feel betrayed, hurt or traumatized. When they are uneducated, and deprived of experiences and quality of life.
He is able and willing, yet also not able and not willing.
God is good. We want his name to be that, instead of "Bad".
We want mankind to make a choice, choose that God can be good, and live your life proving that.
He is able but allows evil to occur.
Not his business, his only interest is what you do.
Sounds like a dick move.
You forget that on this train of logic, we the humans were the first to make the biggest dick move dude. It literally didn't have to be this way and we weren't supposed to live in this hell hole and yet here we are and until I get to leave, I'm gonna live my life as close to God as I can because this place bites the big one and it only gets worse. Good luck man.
Just be sure to look for god within. Be weary of anyone or anything external.
meh.. that argument has been BTFO already.. you should really brush up on the Meterialist vs. Theist (Christian) debate arguments. As things are right now the leading minds on the materialist side are saying they wish amateur Atheists would stop making such bad already debunked arguments because it's only adding more nails to their coffin and embarrassing the movement.
Current state of Materialism = "I know it's the most irrational position, that all the grammar, logic and rhetoric are not in my favor but I refuse to accept the facts anyway" Literally that. The only way to not know this is if you are living in a self inflicted bubble of ignorance.
But don't take my word for it, go find the absolute best arguments against Materialism there is then decide for your self.
Most of Atheism is nothing more than pop culture propaganda now days.
Yeah that's a really good point, definitions are important.
Though ScutFarkus is certainly trying to use the quote as an argument and using it against the Jewish/Christian concept of God, which is a great deal different than pagan concepts like Zeus, it's a somewhat common misunderstanding among Atheists.