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conspiracies.win Round Table #3 - The Powers That Shouldn't Be: Who are the *actual* richest/most powerful people in the world?
posted 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl [M] 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +58 / -7

Thanks to everyone that participated in the nomination thread and to u/pkvi for the winning suggestion.

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– clemaneuverers 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

To come at this from a contemporary perspective, this excellent documentary, MONOPOLY: AN OVERVIEW OF THE GREAT RESET – FOLLOW THE MONEY, demonstrates how the private investment firm, The Vanguard Group is the wealthiest and most influential investor in the world.

They own the majority of shares in the companies of every industry imaginable, and that's no exaggeration. You may be thinking Blackrock is the biggest company in the world, but actually Vanguard is the largest shareholder in Blackrock.

Vanguard is a private company, and as such it's shareholders are not public knowledge. It was established by John Bogle and in his bio we get our first clue as to Vanguard's owners in the form of his mentor, Walter L. Morgan. The article on him on wiki is only a stub, but it's very likely he is related to the Morgan Banking Dynasty.

In the documentary they briefly show some other wealthy families they suspect of being shareholders in Vanguard:

Orsini, Bush, Windsor, Rothschild, Rockefeller, du Pont, Vanderbilt

The Orsinis are a family of the Black Nobility. Other such families were/are:

Este, Chigi, Aldobradini, Colonna, Conti di Segni, Medici, Barberini, Somaglia, Caetani, Farnese, Borghes, Doria, Borja, Sforza, Gaetani

TBH it's unclear to me whether all of families of the Black Nobility are still as wealthy and powerful as they were originally. Some certainly are. The Italian Government convenes in the Aldobradini's old second hand mansion house in Rome, for example, and there was a marriage connecting them with the Rothschilds.

Knowing the exact in-and-outs there would require some more detailed research, and there are more names than just these.

Getting back to Vanguard, it's name and logo are interesting. The logo would indicate the company is named for the Vanguard class of ship or perhaps even a specific ship named vanguard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vanguard_(1787)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard_(1799_ship)

Bogle himself said it was named after the specific ship that defeated Napoleon in Egypt. Other ships called Vanguard were involved in the slave trade, and Vanguard has encountered some woke-mafia attention over that, which they dismissed.

Because of course, Vanguard is extremely "woke" itself:

Vanguard to Push Companies on Racial Diversity Next Year

Anyway, that just for starters, but I think Vanguard is key for a contemporary understanding of who the real and current PsTSB are. As you can see from the above article, their focus is, as expected, completely in-line with "social justice warriors" and useful idiots. Or rather, the SJW and useful idiots are doing Vanguard's bidding, without the faintest clue they are serving the agenda of the wealthiest people in existence.

"when your "rebellion" and woke agenda is completely in line with the satanic elite's desires".jpg

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is fascinating. Do you have a specific link where they talked about this? I've never listened to them before.

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– nc777 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Looking at the daily/weekly/monthly leaders, rarely are any of the names mentioned by the retail sector there.
Good stuff very interesting thx

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– clemaneuverers 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

One of the major institutional investors, Vanguard is ghost owned insofar as it does not have any owners at all in the traditional sense of the concept.

The company claims that it is owned by the multiple funds that it has itself set up and which it manages.

This is how the company puts it on their home page:

"At Vanguard, there are no outside owners, and therefore, no conflicting loyalties.

The company is owned by its funds, which in turn are owned by their shareholders - including you, if you're a Vanguard fund investor."

At the end of the analysis, it would then seem that Vanguard is owned by Vanguard itself, certainly nobody should swallow the charade that those funds stuffed with passive investor money would exercise any ownership control over the superstructure Vanguard.

We therefore assume that there is some group of people (other than the company directors) that have retained the actual control of Vanguard behind the scenes (perhaps through one or a few of the funds).

In fact, we believe that all three (BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard) are tightly controlled by a group of US oligarchs (or more widely transatlantic oligarchs), who prefer not to brandish their power. It is beyond the scope of this study and our means to investigate this hypothesis, but whatever, it is bad enough that as a proven fact these three investor corporations wield this control over most of the American economy.

We also know that the three act in concert wherever they hold shares. (12)

Source

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– clemaneuverers 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

There is no shareholder breakdown for Vanguard publicly available, AFAIK. The list of names of familes above is speculative based on who are the wealthiest families/ancestral family funds. The logic being that the wealthiest must own it. Those (first list) names are flashed briefly during the documentary I linked (during the first half), when talking about the possible identity of Vanguard's shareholders; and then I listed the Black Nobility because there is speculation many of those families still wield untold wealth and power.

I wonder about how hidden wealth is used to control things, but the Vanguard stuff was just about what's visible and actively engaging in the markets currently - and still that ownership is hidden.

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– RosieODonald 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This seems like a good one

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– undecidedmask 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I'm going to be honest, I don't think we'll ever know who is the most powerful person in the world. They are likely in the dark, so that no one ever knows about them, and they can do what they wish.

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– Graphenium 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

Rothschild = roth shilde = red shield = meat shield to be fed to the wolves when the time comes

If you know their name, they aren’t that important.

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– MO-Carpenter 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I didn’t consider myself much of a religious man until I saw how much occult demon fetish shit these people were into. Honestly an inhuman malevolent force could be a really puppeteer.

They’re obsessed with demons and aliens, I don’t know if it’s one or the other but I don’t think they’re into all this occult nonsense just for fun.

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– Graphenium 6 points 4 years ago +7 / -1

I know the vatican is in control of an absurd amount of wealth. Originally, priests (including the first pope) could get married and have kids, but this introduced a problem for the Catholic church where the property that their churches resided on tended to be owned by the priest. Well, a simple papal edict changed all that, and now we have the Catholic Church owning over $10 trillion (estimate) in amassed wealth and land.

Given that change and others like it, it should surprise no one that they’ve paid over $2,000,000,000 just to settle child sex abuse claims in US courts.

What families are represented by the vatican state? Likely those descended from the early, powerful papal families like the borgias and the farnese... paging u/putinlovescats for some insights

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– Graphenium 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Could you link to any estimates? I tried to find any of quality but ((google)) disappoints as always on this subject, so I pulled 10T out of my ass as the absolute lowest I could imagine

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– Xaviermgk 6 points 4 years ago +8 / -2

One observation I have is about the Vanguard ship. The HMS Vanguard stopped off at Malta, which was taken by Napoleon. Ever looked at Malta's wikipedia? Their Easter procession looks like the KKK. And Pete Buttegieg is Maltese, and he's a "Rhodes scholar" (either MI6 or brainwashed, or both).

When people think of organized crime, they think of the mob and Sicily, but there's a lot of weirdness with the other ones. A fairly occult-ish book called The Magus took place on the Greek island of Spetses, and there's an implication in the book that the people that control ISLANDS control the world (hey, think Epstein, Joe Biden's brother James....etc.). Fact checks are ALL OVER Joe Biden never owning the island...and then are like...well, yeah, his brother owned it. eye roll

In fact, in that book, the "antagonist" is a shipping magnate, and he seems to be modeled after Aristotle Onassis. So Onassis was THE shipping magnate apparently, and think of what that means in terms of trafficking. Of course, he married JFK's widow, making her Jackie O.

To keep things brief, Onassis also dated Maria Callas, the opera singer. There's been numerous posts about how Marina Abramovic might be their daughter. Remember her? The one that denounced Pizzagate as fake news (along with Podesta and others)? Yeah, she would denounce anything that hinted at trafficking, because there's a strong possibility that her daddy ran that racket. Perhaps she has a big hand in it as well. Not too many other "performance artists" like her that weirdly get Microsoft AR commercials and hang out with the likes of Jay-Z, James Franco, and such.

And I think most of this goes back to Phoenicia, who probably locked down islands and coastlines a long time ago. Even Bohemian Grove might be Phoenician.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 5 points 4 years ago +7 / -2

WEF annual forum is being held beyod the poles this year.

https://isgp-studies.com/1001-club-of-the-ww good lists here.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

All the three letter media outlets in the overton window.

And even many "outside the box".......

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– MO-Carpenter 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That website is fucking atrocious. Also some dated content. Like saying a plane hit the pentagon? Interesting theory there lol.

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– alltheleavesarebrown 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Suggest something better

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– Xaviermgk 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

Does anyone remember the guy on Reddit that constantly posted on conspiracy and conspiracyundone a few years back that did nothing but make posts about the different royal families and how they were connected? I think he was an ex-Marine, and he really attracted the shills. They even doxxed him and posted his picture. He talked a bit violently, so it was pretty evident he wasn't going to be around long (but longer than I thought!).

Talked to him a fair amount, mainly about flag and crest symbolism. HIs stuff seemed like copypasta, but he could really rattle stuff off.

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– Xaviermgk 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Even better, your response made me remember that he had a blog. And my brother remembered...It was AhuwahZeus. Will look into it. Supposedly he stated the RZA was sending guys after him. My brother stated he also had a Twitter account, but doesn't know the handle.

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– Xaviermgk 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah...even a casual glance at his stuff made me forget how dense it is. I'm going to read his blog on Fallen Angels shortly.

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– Xaviermgk 4 points 4 years ago +5 / -1

https://steemit.com/ahuwahzeus/@os2o/ahuwahzeus-psychotronic-terrorism-and-zionic-mind-control

Even the first hit on Google is pretty good. Also funny is the first page of search has the shill "response" to him, which was to consistently call him a Satanist and say that his information was disinfo and a "time sink"...like all conspiracy stuff isn't!

I challenged the shills to dispute anything he wrote, and they really never seemed to. The same shills hit his posts over and over, it's like don't make it obvious boys.

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– Sword7 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Do they invest in any crypto? We could at least get rich following "the latest trend"

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– MO-Carpenter 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They’re pretty exposed and out in the open to be leading this imo. They seem like an obedient culture that would make fine slaves for the new world order. I think their culture just got them picked to rise during the age of oppression. I think they’re also going to be the #1 target once shit starts to pop off. They seem like a favored fall guy more than brilliant strategists at this point.

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– Chinesetrenchfoot3 -4 points 4 years ago +2 / -6

The jews and you all are stupid

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