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conspiracies.win Round Table #3 - The Powers That Shouldn't Be: Who are the *actual* richest/most powerful people in the world?
posted 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl [M] 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +58 / -7

Thanks to everyone that participated in the nomination thread and to u/pkvi for the winning suggestion.

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– clemaneuverers 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

To come at this from a contemporary perspective, this excellent documentary, MONOPOLY: AN OVERVIEW OF THE GREAT RESET – FOLLOW THE MONEY, demonstrates how the private investment firm, The Vanguard Group is the wealthiest and most influential investor in the world.

They own the majority of shares in the companies of every industry imaginable, and that's no exaggeration. You may be thinking Blackrock is the biggest company in the world, but actually Vanguard is the largest shareholder in Blackrock.

Vanguard is a private company, and as such it's shareholders are not public knowledge. It was established by John Bogle and in his bio we get our first clue as to Vanguard's owners in the form of his mentor, Walter L. Morgan. The article on him on wiki is only a stub, but it's very likely he is related to the Morgan Banking Dynasty.

In the documentary they briefly show some other wealthy families they suspect of being shareholders in Vanguard:

Orsini, Bush, Windsor, Rothschild, Rockefeller, du Pont, Vanderbilt

The Orsinis are a family of the Black Nobility. Other such families were/are:

Este, Chigi, Aldobradini, Colonna, Conti di Segni, Medici, Barberini, Somaglia, Caetani, Farnese, Borghes, Doria, Borja, Sforza, Gaetani

TBH it's unclear to me whether all of families of the Black Nobility are still as wealthy and powerful as they were originally. Some certainly are. The Italian Government convenes in the Aldobradini's old second hand mansion house in Rome, for example, and there was a marriage connecting them with the Rothschilds.

Knowing the exact in-and-outs there would require some more detailed research, and there are more names than just these.

Getting back to Vanguard, it's name and logo are interesting. The logo would indicate the company is named for the Vanguard class of ship or perhaps even a specific ship named vanguard:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Vanguard_(1787)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard_(1799_ship)

Bogle himself said it was named after the specific ship that defeated Napoleon in Egypt. Other ships called Vanguard were involved in the slave trade, and Vanguard has encountered some woke-mafia attention over that, which they dismissed.

Because of course, Vanguard is extremely "woke" itself:

Vanguard to Push Companies on Racial Diversity Next Year

Anyway, that just for starters, but I think Vanguard is key for a contemporary understanding of who the real and current PsTSB are. As you can see from the above article, their focus is, as expected, completely in-line with "social justice warriors" and useful idiots. Or rather, the SJW and useful idiots are doing Vanguard's bidding, without the faintest clue they are serving the agenda of the wealthiest people in existence.

"when your "rebellion" and woke agenda is completely in line with the satanic elite's desires".jpg

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is fascinating. Do you have a specific link where they talked about this? I've never listened to them before.

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– nc777 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Looking at the daily/weekly/monthly leaders, rarely are any of the names mentioned by the retail sector there.
Good stuff very interesting thx

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– clemaneuverers 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

One of the major institutional investors, Vanguard is ghost owned insofar as it does not have any owners at all in the traditional sense of the concept.

The company claims that it is owned by the multiple funds that it has itself set up and which it manages.

This is how the company puts it on their home page:

"At Vanguard, there are no outside owners, and therefore, no conflicting loyalties.

The company is owned by its funds, which in turn are owned by their shareholders - including you, if you're a Vanguard fund investor."

At the end of the analysis, it would then seem that Vanguard is owned by Vanguard itself, certainly nobody should swallow the charade that those funds stuffed with passive investor money would exercise any ownership control over the superstructure Vanguard.

We therefore assume that there is some group of people (other than the company directors) that have retained the actual control of Vanguard behind the scenes (perhaps through one or a few of the funds).

In fact, we believe that all three (BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard) are tightly controlled by a group of US oligarchs (or more widely transatlantic oligarchs), who prefer not to brandish their power. It is beyond the scope of this study and our means to investigate this hypothesis, but whatever, it is bad enough that as a proven fact these three investor corporations wield this control over most of the American economy.

We also know that the three act in concert wherever they hold shares. (12)

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– clemaneuverers 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

There is no shareholder breakdown for Vanguard publicly available, AFAIK. The list of names of familes above is speculative based on who are the wealthiest families/ancestral family funds. The logic being that the wealthiest must own it. Those (first list) names are flashed briefly during the documentary I linked (during the first half), when talking about the possible identity of Vanguard's shareholders; and then I listed the Black Nobility because there is speculation many of those families still wield untold wealth and power.

I wonder about how hidden wealth is used to control things, but the Vanguard stuff was just about what's visible and actively engaging in the markets currently - and still that ownership is hidden.

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– RosieODonald 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This seems like a good one

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