Please prove us wrong.
If we are wrong, please link to a proof that Covid-19 exist. Bonus if you can prove that the UK mutation exist. I will eat my pants without salt and pepper if you can prove Covid-19 exist.
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Nobody is able to provide an isolated sample of ANY virus. See Dr. Stefan Lanka's latest paper "The Misconception Called Virus" from June for more detail.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-stefan-lanka-2020-article-busts-virus-misconception/5719146
My only curiosity is with the chickenpox and measles "virus". They cause a rash and are contagious. There is also a vaccine. Why don't they mutate?
Overall, I think viruses are BS.
Yep, those are tricky. They certainly seem contagious. What I can briefly say in this forum is that these are childhood "upgrades" and detoxification events. All rashes, pox, mumps, bumps, etc. are a result of the body pushing toxins out through its largest organ - the skin. Small Pox is the most obvious example of this.
The reason these events sometimes appear contagious is similar to how and why people come into resonance when they are together. A simple example is women who live together for a few months and their monthly periods get synced up right around the same time.
Whatever the "cause" of this syncing, it isn't due to the idea of contagion. The child who got chicken pox or measles had toxins in their system, and the body was finally capable of releasing them. Other kids in his vicinity are frequently going to have the same basic toxins, sharing space, rooms, air, food, etc. The reason some kids don't get the same is not because they have a better immune system (which doesn't really exist BTW), but rather, they either weren't exposed to the same toxins, and/or were better able to detoxify them previously.
Read Lanka's paper. He authoritatively points out that the seminal "Measles Virus" study and scientific efforts were laughably never even close to proving diddly squat.
And yes, apply all of the above to influenza/flu.
I'm quite sure it's chickenpox is what shingles mutates into in some people.
Idk how old you guys are, but in the late 70's to mid 80's it was very common to have a sleep over with a friend who currently had the chicken pox. What was pushed to the parents, was if your kid gets it now, they'll be immune to it for life after ward. My parents ( mid + late 70s age ) confirmed this actually not long ago as we were just talking about current life yadda yadda.
you're a moron then
Koch's Postulates
those are for living organisms, not viruses
How do we know it's a virus?
What?... No, it is ABSOLUTELY for viruses. It is for IDing disease caused by microorganisms.
yes they have? what
It only exists in the delusions of narcissists.
Well I had a measly fever for one day. The worst part was not being able to taste food for two weeks. You know what my leftie friend told me? "You just got a weaker strain of the virus and got lucky". They won't even believe personal experience if it doesn't line up with the talking heads.
Time to find new friends.
Same folks can't understand simple science.
Hey, if a virus isn't strong enough in your system to make you sick ( asymptomatic )... how, then would it be strong enough to pass to someone else??
More and more people are aware about this fact and that's good.
All faked to get Biden into the White House.
Sorry buddy. This fear pr0n is also outside the US.
real bad in Canada. So many Trudope zombies.
We have same media problem here though. 2015 the liberal party made a '60 million' donation to a union called Unifor.
Unifor is the union that covers the journalists in Canada. Go figure.
100% agree, and that is an excellent collection. Proud to say I have read and watched many of those links already, but it's an excellent resource to share. Nice work!
They've used the secretion of exosomes and called it covid-19.
Why is this article withdrawn?
This paper has been withdrawn by its authors. They intend to revise it in response to comments received from the research community on their technical approach and their interpretation of the results. If you have any questions, please contact the corresponding author.
This is a patent for the Corona virus. Not a proof that Covid-19 is isolated.
koch's postulates are for living organisms, not viruses
also - Biden isn't a communist, what are you on
KOCH'S POSTULATES ARE FOR MICROORGANISMS. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
galaxy brain version
If covid-19 is a specific mutation of a coronavirus, then why are Covid-19 mutations still called Covid-19? It's all BS.
are you stupid? because sars-cov-2 is radically different from the normal sars virus, but current mutations on sars-cov-2 are too small to be classified as a different virus
Whole thing is just a flu.
"BuT mY mOm DiEd dUe tO CoViD! StOp PrEaChInG nOnSeNsE!"
imagine making fun of people's dead family
I think the point was to show how anecdotes are widely accepted as facts. Which is stupid.
it's the usual commie name-game. they've renamed something already existing and are acting like it is new.
Think about it this way: CCP would never admit they had any wrongdoing, even if it would harm Western countries.
Use Pubmed and your brain:
Structural Mapping of Mutations in Spike, RdRp and Orf3a Genes of SARS-CoV-2 in Influenza Like Illness (ILI) Patients https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/1/136
Further:
Laboratory testing of SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV, and SARS-CoV-2 (2019-nCoV): Current status, challenges, and countermeasures https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32302058/
They describe the standard procedure for SARS-CoV-2:
I read them both. Three times. Thank you.
Where is the proof of having isolated this virus written?
The second is a how-to isolate as one of the headings. Not that it is isolated...
I can write a how-to land on the moon, without ever been there. Or how-to make a time machine, without prove it works.
Where is the PDF/page where the virus actually are isolated?
No you fucking didn't read them or didn't understand them:
First paper, page 4:
Third paper, pg 7:
This paper also: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32333222/
There are plenty of papers.
Like I said: Use your BRAIN and PubMed.
Don't expect anybody with science degree to take you seriously if your arguments are full of shit and ignorant to begin with.
If you have a proper scientific argument, then you might be taken seriously.
Wait, they isolated the virus... From a lab confirmed covid patient?
You don't mind the impossibly circular reasoning st all?
You need to read the papers. They are from patients with actual COVID-19 symptoms and pathologies (blood markers/tissue samples). Not just rt-PCR confirmed "cases".
How could they test for something they haven't isolated?
How could they take samples "from a covid patient" before it was isolated?
Arguments are not won on lame ad hominems. believe me, I was once where you are now and it never lead me anywhere useful. Stop and assess your priorities. You can keep running after each argument, after each silly meme/shitpost/conspiracy. OR you can learn to think for yourself. And you are fully entitles to your opinions, even when they are not grounded in reality. But you will pay a price for them - one way or the other. Trust me ,been there done that.
Also you can't make a vaccine without culturing the virus. So every country that made a vaccine isolated it.
By March already, Japan, Thailand, USA, China and India had isolated the virus. So many people can't be participating in a lie.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/covid-19-india-becomes-5th-country-globally-to-isolate-virus-strain-11584102221498.html
Even better, here is an animal test with an isolate sample, infected healthy animals who get the symptoms and show the measurable clinical blood/histological markers of COVID-19.
This fulfils the Koch's postulates:
Simulation of the clinical and pathological manifestations of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in golden Syrian hamster model: implications for disease pathogenesis and transmissibility https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7184405/pdf/ciaa325.pdf
So ANY FUCKING MORON who keeps yelling "SARS-COV-2 doesn't exist" needs to put some fucking scientific proof on the table OR learn to fucking read in the first place.
It has to be reproducible to be science. Has another study been able to verify their claims?
True that. Let's wait for replication.
Isolation and full DNA sequencing has been replicated (1600+ times in NCBI/GISAID databases from all over the world, from real symptom checked patients at hospitals).
However, the cultivation and re-infection in test animals that fulfil the Koch's postulates: I can only find one study. It needs to be replicated.
Glad we can agree.
Sure thing. Truth prevails. Everything else is just handwaving...
And check signing
Good luck trying to get ANY VIRAL study done on humans where healthy volunteers are INFECTED with such virus and then let to become sick and then dissected for pathologies.
You clearly have no idea of science works.
US?
who the fuck is "US", you turd?
i didnt sign your stupid petition.
Yeah I can see you have perfect grammar in your posts too. If you don't understand me, I apologize. Let me know, and I will rephrase some foe you. I just.write my minds, and lare less about spelling.
grammar? OOHHH... YOU IN DEEP, SON.
here is the lie you tell yourself:
"im not an individual. "i" am them. "they" are me. "WE" think. the CONSENSUS is the group; not me."
YOU are good enough. YOU is all it takes. YOU is all that matters.
AYYYY, ANY FUCK OUT THERE KNOW WHICH PILL WE NEED TO GIVE THIS KID?
(and if you ask, fuck off; i aint sharing my adderal)
https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741 There ya go! Enjoy those pants, i would recommend marinara sauce, paired with a cabernet/pinot noir blend. Red goes well with denim.
I'm sorry buddy. This is not a proof that Covid-19 is isolated and exists.
what about the entire fucking genome that's been published from the virus? is that not enough?
What? Did you read it? Covid-19 is what they call the “disease” caused by the bat coronavirus that was purposefully mutated to be more infectious to “simulate” a pandemic and escaped the lab.
Edit: it’s a common fucking cold mixed with god knows what long-term effects/mutations for opening up pandora’s box. Just like with GMOs— billions of years of evolution frankensteined by the hubris of apes using “science” instead of common fucking sense.
Lol newsweek