I noticed that when some liberal person enumerate "opressed minorities", Native Americans will be omitted from the list. Even typical MSM articles omit them (f.e. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/black-lives-matter-support-impact/index.html - just first article about BLM in search results)
AFAIK from history lessons, natives had much more issues with white people than blacks. Europeans come to their land as uninvited guests and just killed them taking their valuables and lands.
So why SJW omit natives? Is there something I don't know/understand?
Because the current narrative is about how black people are so stupid they need handouts and a boost at every level to counter their incompetency? Keep up kid
Fucking facts. And they do it in such a way that they make the people they feel are below them feel like they're being made special. Kinda like fattening livestock before slaughter.
In the "traditional" SJW list you will also find Hispanics, LGBTQXYZ, Aisans and even Arabs, along the blacks. But I rarely saw any mention of Natives. They could be mentioned as minorities or PoC only in some wikipedia articles or some statistic or scientific papers.
Native Americans are usually “based”, if you ever listen to them talk. Very traditional, conservative... not the kind of person a pink haired lib would want to help
It is hard to hang with native american in Russia. :)
However, I knew one Chukcha, they are close to Eskimos. Yes, he was traditional, spiritual and "based". Nice buddy, I like him. Chukchas was a good warriors, few centuries ago, Russian Empire tried to subdue them, but failed, so left them alone signing peace.
Can confirm. I know several Native Americans here in Texas, and they are conservative, don't trust the fucking government (gods know they shouldn't) and don't have a need for being labeled a victim class. Based for sure. I do know a couple in Canada that yell about what you're saying here. They are mad they aren't included in the special victim class and want to be. So I don't know. Maybe the Texans are just Texans and when you grow up in Texas outside the big city liberal bullshit you don't want anything to do with that mess
But they largely vote for democrats. Look mom further than New Mexico.
Also, Native Americans have no political value to them. Native Americans also have a longstanding history that gives natural mistrust to the Federal Government, so big government globalist ideas aren't likely to win them over anyway.
This.
2% voting block vs. 15% Voting block.
It won't help them to massively import the immigrants.
Similar to the fact that they don't care the local environmental issue like how they crying about the global climate change.
Leftists hate local communities, they want to destroy them to establish the "open society".
Can't really offer up America to all immigrants while being a Native Ally.
Because if they recognize native Americans then they have to admit they are also occupying stolen land.
Good point, thank you.
They don't omit natives. Where do you think the dumb acronym "bipoc" comes from?
I rare meet that acronym over the net. Most use "poc" as "people who are not white", but enumeration of that "not whites" often omit natives.
I don't know where you get the notion that natives are "omitted" from anything. It's not like they're treated like asians. Even though 99 percent of sjw are white and utterly don't care some of them recognize the "oppression scale" and invoke natives in their acronyms
In liberal rhethoric. Social networks, MSM, everywhere. I even gave a link to the example. You could do your own research. Most part will omit natives.
Yes, only some of them. Why not everyone of them?
Nobody is "omitting" natives. Thats markedly untrue.
Why doesn't every person in Russia say the bolsheviks were a bunch of money grubbing, hook nosed, filthy zionist jews? They tell kids in israel stalin was worse than Hitler to the jews. How would that make sense if his wives were jew?
Why is your country "omitting" jew from the coup of a constitutional monarchy into the degradation of a communist shithole?
I even gave a link with example.
Because there is a law in Russian Federation, with real imprisonment for so-named "fomenting inter-ethnic discord". This law have an unofficial name "russian clause", because only etnic russians charged. All russians attempts to apply it to miscellaneous talmudic and islam texts failed.
In 90-s there was enormous amount of bolsheviks documents declassified, with literal proofs of jewish crimes during revolution time. There was a lot of literature and movies on that topic. All that was prohibited, purged and outlawed after Putin become president.
Last Stalin wife died in 1932. Surprisingly, this is coincide with time when Stalin began to getting rid of jews in government. Jews definitely interfere with Stalin's own plan of building his Empire, so he tried to remove them from the path along with other groups including intellectuals, scientists, industrialists, etc. Stalin was not antisemitic at all, he was pure internationalist, he just removed obstacles from the path. However, jews, unlike any other group, especially hates anybody who really impede their plans and label that person antisemitic.
Because Russian Federation is liberal totalitarian oligarchy, following NWO agenda.
Really, if you dig a little, you still can find a lot of underground data about true jews role in Russian history.
And I still don't get how natives role in American history is similar to the role of jews in Russian history, and why do you think that in Russian Federation jews is omitted from protected groups when they are the most protected etnicity in Russian Federation? You can't even discuss them without being prosecuted.
I just don't know what you're implying. What's the relevance of leaving out natives? That SJWs are racist? We know that.
I'd asked a question to get more info. And some fellow *win'ners provided some. Isn't that one of the things the conspiracy.win exist for?
I did not know. Now I suppose that this is another good and solid proof of liberal hypocrisy.
I doubt that they are rasist. They don't care about race at all. This case with natives prove it too. They care only about gaining power and suppressing others at any cost and by any means.
I also see nothing bad in racism. It is completely normal to be proud of, protect and prefer your own race. That does not inevitably cause hate to other, as liberal shills try to convince you. Most people prefer and protect their own family over other people, without any hate to those around, so why that social things should be any different at larger scale? If you can't be proud of and do not care about your family you have no means and concepts to understand and respect others.
No, you understand well enough I can surmise. These social justice warriors do not actually care about the virtues they extol. Nor the sovereignty of the small patches of land the native people were allotted. This is because both BLM, and Antifa contain payed provocateurs, who are for pay activists. Caring about people who actually suffer the most police violence, and are a true minority, isn't what they do, they only wish to exploit the narratives, and take for themselves.
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That's an excellent question. The native peoples have been shafted so hard throughout American history. Massacres, betrayals, removals from land, disease... it goes on and on.
So, they should be a perfect target for SJW "protection". But SJWs ignores them nearly always. What is your explanation of that paradox?
not to be negative (my mother is actually a card-holding native american) but they already have government assistance based on their race, they get free land, tax breaks, and in some cases free college (I know the stories of how natives even get the shaft in government programs, my point is that they are there). so maybe this SJW group feels they need to "take care" of the minorities that aren't being given help by the government already, and once they are "handled" they can double back and focus on strengthening their current programs.
Yup this is exactly what I was going to say. One could argue we’ve already received some form of reparations especially when compared to black descendants of slavery. However, I don’t think we’re left out of SJW movements at all.
Thank you for details.
But at the same time, SJWs very agressively protect, say, jews. You can't even mention jews in conversation with SJW without being labeled antisemite, nazi and everything bad. I don't think that jews have less assistance and preferences than natives in US. It will be very interesting to compare the payments to Israel and funding of natives support.
Free land in some pretty shitty places. Have you ever been to reservation land in the southwest? It's sad there.
well they can get free property in reservations, or free land elsewhere (no structures). I'm sure its no better land, re purposed federal land and such, but thats only in those cases of "entirely free" if they were to use their tax breaks, and free college they could land themselves in a respectable job and just do the day to day like the rest of us. also, dont forget oklahoma is literally now halved , with one half being entirely native reservation land.
I don't really have one. Perhaps, they're so insulated and such a small portion of American society that they're just simply overlooked.
Are they really so insulated? Do they insulate themselves or authorities insulate them in reservations?
Also, I take a look at statistics, and they are 2.4% of US population. Say, LGBTQXYZ are 4.5% (probably overrated due to modern narrative). Not a huge difference to call Natives a "small portion" and discard, at the same time inflating LGBTQXYZ to the enormous levels and cramming them to every possible hole.
LGBTQXYZ... nice. Gonna be serious or is thread an excuse to be a bigot?
You know, I'm rude russian barbarian, why do you expect that I have to be an expert in all that modern gender letters? I don't expect you to be an expert in russian abbreviations, like ФГУП ГРЧЦ, so, don't expect same from me.