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sun_wolf 2 points ago +2 / -0

OK guy. I’m sure you’re sure you and only you know all the secrets of the world and anyone who disagrees is stupid. There couldn’t possibly be a lie or a hoax you aren’t aware of.

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sun_wolf 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it’s interesting that everyone believes conspiracy theories exactly up to whichever particular ones they believe, and that anyone who believes otherwise is stupid or a shill. It’s like I don’t believe in aliens, but I don’t think everyone who does is stupid or a shill. I don’t seek to shut down any debate about aliens. I actually sometimes think those debates are very interesting. I’m not threatened by the conspiracy theories I don’t personally believe.

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sun_wolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

You honestly don’t think Trump is hip to the Jews? That’s like saying he truly believes the official 9/11 narrative, or that he believes Oswald acted alone. Probably before he was President but certainly after, he was informed or made aware of all kinds of top secret shit. He’s probably read all the JFK files. Think about it logically. Think about what he would have had to deal with building real estate in New York.

The question is how do you go after the bloodlines and the central banks and the intelligence agencies and be effective? Does he come out on day one of his Presidency and start questioning the Holocaust based on secret documents he’s read? That might be temporarily satisfying, but would it be effective? Would people even believe him? Would people be ready to believe him?

Even for Trump to come out against the official 9/11 narrative would be very tricky, strategically, and people should be less attached to that one because it is more recent, and it has these disastrous Middle East wars attached to them. Imagine you are advising Trump and you want to disclose the truth about 9/11. How do you do it? And don’t just say call a press conference and disclose it because the press conference gets censored and there are a thousand articles within about an hour “debunking” it. They also probably misreport what was said and do a “drink bleach” rewrite. So now what? Have you effectively “set the record straight”? Or have you strategically shot yourself in the foot?

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sun_wolf 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is how people talked about “anti-vaxxers” before Covid.

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sun_wolf 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think it’s mostly about attachment to science fiction. Star Wars, Star Trek, all that outer space shit. If they are lying to us about space, all that fiction loses its believability. This more than anything explains the emotional hostility over a debate about the shape of the Earth, which does not directly affect anyone and is in many ways a dry, philosophical discussion.

I also think there is frustration that the FE movement isn’t going away with all the ad hominem and appeal to authority arguments. I keep trying to tell Globe Earthers that this is like Democrats and Trump. The arguments you’re making aren’t working because they are based on false claims of the FE position. This is why they don’t have the effect that’s intended. It’s not because FE people are “dumb” or “bots” or some kind of “cult”.

by pkvi
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sun_wolf 2 points ago +2 / -0

Notre Dame.