Researching all this in the previous thread. Still only at 19 minutes into the video. Gonna go have a nap and resume later.
I thought of doing a search for that pic the angels let him take of it. Looks like there's just 1 cherubim on the top.. what's up with that. Supposed to be two.
This whole story though.. of how this guy was excavating in this The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary), area, without a permit. Was kind of quiet though them hauling out pails. Wasn't like heavy equipment. The entrace hole you could barely fit in too. Like make that bigger. You'd think people would be ratting on him and the cops would have shut it down. But this was the 80's.
Go see that previous thread for starting to research. The interesting thing so far, is how it's still in there.. so technically you could go try and go back in there. Guaranteed you couldn't just go fucking excavate in Jerusalem these days. You'd get so arrested.
[Part 4] so why do they gotta have that going on.. the ark with the blood is still on it.. does it do some kind of "vibe" to the earth?
Let's clarify a bit. When you say "they gotta have that going on," it implies there's some ongoing situation with the Ark and the blood. From a factual, verifiable standpoint, there is no credible evidence that the Ark of the Covenant is currently in a chamber under Jerusalem with Christ's blood on it, or that it is doing anything to the earth.
The entire scenario of the Ark being there with the blood on it and its potential effects stems solely from Ron Wyatt's unsubstantiated claims and the beliefs of his followers.
Within Ron Wyatt's narrative, and the eschatological interpretations that his followers often hold, the Ark with the blood on it doesn't necessarily emit a "vibe" to the earth in a New Age or mystical energy sense. Instead, its significance, if it were truly there as he claimed, would be understood in a theological and prophetic context:
Symbol of Completed Atonement: The primary "vibe" or impact would be its symbolic power. For those who believe Wyatt's claims, the Ark, having literally received the blood of Christ, would stand as the ultimate physical testament to the completion of God's plan of salvation. It would be seen as the physical manifestation of the New Covenant replacing the Old.
Future Witness and Revelation: In Wyatt's view, the Ark's ultimate purpose for remaining hidden was to be revealed at a specific, future time. When it is revealed (again, according to his claims), it is believed it would:
Serve as undeniable proof: Its discovery, especially with the alleged blood evidence, would be irrefutable proof of Christ's divinity and the truth of the biblical narrative.
Call people to repentance: This revelation would lead to a mass awakening, convincing many of the truth of God and His word.
Precede major end-time events: It's often linked to the enforcement of Sunday laws (the "Mark of the Beast" in some interpretations), with the Ark's revelation acting as a final warning or sign before Christ's second coming.
So, while "vibe" isn't the term they'd likely use, the idea is that its presence, even while hidden, maintains its spiritual significance, and its eventual revelation would have profound, world-altering theological consequences, not necessarily a direct energetic emission to the planet itself.
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Winding down the research here.. I get where this area is. Rewatched the start of that first vid..
Original Ron Wyatt Ark of the Covenant Discovery with Extras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_l9pUIeBak
Was checking that skull wall area and the bus depot by this cliff wall. You can see in this vid when she comes out and goes to where you're looking down at the bus depot. That's where his entrance is. This was the late 80's.
I find this video where a guy tries to find that area these days.
"Searching for the Ark of the Covenant Today According to the Ron Wyatt Account"
There's a deck by the bus depot.. he can see the skull wall. Then he heads towards that tomb garden.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGXf2DgmOdM
But now they have this patio stuff built over it. So it woulda been earlier on before he goes towards the tomb garden.
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Doing some more research. You had this page:
https://www.ronwyatt.com/ark_of_the_covenant_pt_3
The Contents of the Chamber
During his several visits to the chamber, he tried to thoroughly explore the contents. He measured the chamber and found it to be 22 feet long by 12 feet on 2 sides, while the other 2 sides followed the line of the cliff-face, forming a chamber that narrowed down in one corner.
The objects he saw in that chamber that he feels confident in identifying are:
the Ark of the Covenant in the Stone case;
the Table of Shewbread;
the Golden Altar of Incense that was in front of the veil;
the Golden Censer;
the 7-branched Candlestick holder, (which didn't have candles but had tiny, bowlike golden oil lamps which are built into the tips of the candlestick);
a very large sword;
an Ephod;
a Miter with an ivory pomegranate on the tip;
a brass shekel weight; numerous oil lamps;
and a brass ring which appeared to be for hanging a curtain or something similar.
Was also a video "Ron Wyatt Speaking in Zedekiah's Cave". 1997.. That's a cave not far from there. That's how they got the ark from the other side, under the Jerusalem wall. He's talking to a group of people down there about details of when he discovered the Ark. 58 minutes long though and you hear a translator talking the whole time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXTRMvGfvMk
He tells the story.. but this video here, somebody did a 3D computer animation of the whole excavation process and when he encountered the ark area.
13 minutes you get to his stuff.
[Part 3] Out of text room in that previous comment.
wondering what the deal is with this here.. the ark with the blood going down on it.. who put that there.. those angels I guess.. and what happens once you get the blood on it..
Ron Wyatt's accounts are largely based on his personal experiences and interpretations, which often included supernatural elements. When it comes to the Ark and the blood, his narrative went something like this:
Who put the Ark there?
According to Wyatt's claims, the Ark of the Covenant, along with other Temple treasures, was hidden in the chamber under Golgotha by the prophet Jeremiah just before the Babylonian invasion of Jerusalem in 586 BC. This was supposedly done to protect these sacred items from desecration by the Babylonians. He believed Jeremiah hid them in this specific location, anticipating the future crucifixion site and its significance.
Were angels involved?
Yes, in Wyatt's story, angels played a significant role. He claimed that after he initially found the Ark chamber, angels appeared to him. These angels supposedly instructed him on what he could and could not do, and when the Ark would be revealed to the world. He even claimed that the angels told him not to reveal the discovery immediately, and that this was why he couldn't show conclusive photographic evidence.
What happens once you get the blood on it (according to his theory)?
For Ron Wyatt, the moment Jesus' blood flowed down through the earthquake crack and landed on the Mercy Seat of the Ark was the ultimate fulfillment of prophecy and the central act of atonement. His interpretation tied together several key theological concepts:
Ultimate Atonement: In the Old Testament, the high priest would sprinkle animal blood on the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) to atone for the sins of the people. Wyatt believed that Jesus' blood, being the perfect and final sacrifice, directly on the actual Mercy Seat, symbolized the ultimate and complete atonement for the sins of humanity. It was the "blood of the New Covenant" literally applying itself to the symbol of God's grace and forgiveness.
Proof of Christ's Divinity and Virgin Birth: As mentioned previously, the alleged genetic analysis of the blood (with only 24 chromosomes – 23 from the mother, 1 Y from a "non-human source") was presented by Wyatt as scientific proof of Jesus' divine fatherhood and the virgin birth. For him, this was tangible evidence that Jesus was indeed the Son of God, not merely a human.
Fulfillment of Prophecy: The entire scenario, from the Ark being hidden in that specific location to the blood dripping onto it at the moment of crucifixion, was seen by Wyatt as a divinely orchestrated event, fulfilling ancient prophecies and demonstrating God's meticulous plan for salvation.
Future Revelation and End Times Significance: Wyatt and his followers believed that the Ark of the Covenant, with the dried blood on it, would be revealed to the world at a specific time in the future, possibly tied to significant end-times events. The idea was that this undeniable evidence would lead many to believe and play a role in final spiritual awakenings.
Again, it is crucial to reiterate that these claims are entirely from Ron Wyatt's narrative and are not accepted by mainstream archaeological, scientific, or theological communities. There is no credible evidence to support his claims of finding the Ark, the specific location, the blood, or the miraculous genetic findings.
ok so the ark was down there in BC.. before Jesus died and they happened to crucify him in the same spot, up top?
Yes, that's precisely the central and most dramatic claim in Ron Wyatt's narrative:
According to him, the Ark of the Covenant and other sacred Temple artifacts were indeed hidden in an underground chamber in Jerusalem around 586 BC by the prophet Jeremiah, specifically to protect them from the invading Babylonian army that was about to destroy Solomon's Temple.
Then, incredibly, Wyatt claimed that the spot where Jesus Christ was crucified around AD 30 (roughly 600 years later) was directly above this very chamber. He specifically identified a crack in the rock at the crucifixion site that he believed extended down through the bedrock, twenty feet, into the chamber where the Ark was located.
The pivotal moment in his story is that when Jesus died on the cross, and the Bible states there was an earthquake that "split the rocks" (Matthew 27:51), this earthquake caused the crack in the bedrock directly under the cross to extend all the way down to the chamber. Furthermore, when the Roman soldier pierced Jesus' side with a spear, blood and water flowed out, down the cross, into this crack, and then supposedly directly onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, which was housed in a stone case below.
This alignment of events, according to Wyatt, was not a coincidence but a divinely orchestrated fulfillment of the Old Testament sacrificial system, with Jesus' blood being the ultimate atonement.
Again, while this is a fascinating and dramatic story, it's crucial to remember that these are Ron Wyatt's specific claims, and they are not supported by any independent archaeological or scholarly evidence. The professional consensus is that his claims are unsubstantiated.
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Watching that 1hr excavation video.. up to 19min.. The lady who's filming.. is showing where they're digging.
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rock of golgotha location in jerusalem, gps coordinates?
There is no single, universally agreed-upon "Rock of Golgotha" with precise, definitive GPS coordinates that are accepted by all scholars and archaeologists. The exact location of Jesus' crucifixion is a matter of ongoing debate and has two primary traditional sites in Jerusalem:
Church of the Holy Sepulchre: This is the most widely accepted traditional site, dating back to the 4th century CE when Emperor Constantine's mother, Helena, identified it. It's located within the Old City of Jerusalem today. The specific rock face believed to be Golgotha is encased within the church.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Church of the Holy Sepulchre:
31°46′42.5″N, 35°13′45.92″E (This refers to a camera location within the Church, so it's a good approximation of the general area).
Note on Location: While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is inside the modern Old City walls, archaeological evidence suggests that during the time of Jesus, this area would have been outside the city walls, which is consistent with biblical accounts that state Jesus was crucified outside the city gate.
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary): This site, just north of the Damascus Gate outside the Old City walls, became a popular alternative in the 19th century, particularly among Protestants. It features a skull-like rock formation and a nearby ancient tomb, leading some to believe it's the true Golgotha and burial site.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Garden Tomb:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
Ron Wyatt's claims (which we've discussed extensively) primarily focused on the area around the Garden Tomb, or specifically, the "Skull Hill" formation associated with it, where he claimed to have found the Ark of the Covenant underneath.
It's important to understand that:
Neither of these sites has absolute, undeniable archaeological proof to be the exact spot, but they are the two main contenders based on tradition, historical accounts, and some archaeological interpretation.
The "rock of Golgotha" itself refers to the rocky outcrop or hill where the crucifixion took place, rather than a single, distinct, portable rock.
where was whyatt digging.. neither of those places or was it the garden tomb
Ron Wyatt primarily focused his excavation efforts in the area of the Garden Tomb in Jerusalem. This site is located just north of the Damascus Gate, outside the Old City walls, and is considered by some Protestants as an alternative, more visually convincing location for Golgotha and Jesus' burial.
While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the most widely accepted traditional site for the crucifixion and burial, Wyatt's claims and activities were centered on the Garden Tomb and the adjacent "Skull Hill" formation. He claimed that the Ark of the Covenant was hidden in a chamber beneath this particular area, directly under where he believed Jesus was crucified. The Garden Tomb Association has explicitly refuted Wyatt's claims of discovery within their grounds, though they did allow him to dig there on several occasions.
what's the gps for this skull hill
The "Skull Hill" (also known as Gordon's Calvary) is the rocky escarpment associated with the Garden Tomb. The approximate GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb, which encompasses this area, are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary) skull face gps location
The "Skull Hill" or Gordon's Calvary, which is the rocky escarpment with a skull-like appearance, is located within the broader area of the Garden Tomb. Therefore, the GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb serve as the most precise publicly available coordinates for this feature.
The approximate GPS coordinates for the "skull face" at the Garden Tomb are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
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It keeps saying the same numbers.. I'm looking at it in google earth. You got the garden tomb. Looked up what they meant by skull face. There's a couple eye holes in the wall and it looks like eyes. At 19min they show where they're digging.
These guys are fucking crazy the way that shit could cave in, 40 feet of stuff above and not much room. They can't use a jackhammer cause they had a cave-in. lol. So they're slowly hauling buckets outta there. No fucking permit either, eh. Like who would go there, do that these days.. This was the 80's though. Wouldn't cops show up? You try that shit here.. no way.. you know what I mean.
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wyatt didn't haul the ark out of there because the angels.. so wyatt closed up the tunnel?
You've hit upon a key element of Ron Wyatt's narrative about the Ark of the Covenant!
Yes, according to Ron Wyatt's accounts, he did not haul the Ark out of the chamber. His explanation for this was directly tied to supernatural intervention, specifically the presence and instructions of angels.
Wyatt claimed that on his fourth visit to the chamber where the Ark was located (after initially "discovering" it in 1982), four angels appeared to him. These angels allegedly:
Instructed him not to remove the Ark: They told him that the Ark and the tablets of the Ten Commandments (which he claimed to have seen within the Ark) were to remain hidden until a divinely appointed time, linked to future "end-time events" or the "Mark of the Beast" being enforced. The idea was that the Ark would serve as a powerful witness to the world at a crucial moment in history.
Guided his actions: Wyatt stated that he was unable to move or take clear photographs of the Ark unless the angels instructed him to. He claimed that attempts to photograph it resulted in blurred or unusable images, which he later understood was a divine prohibition against immediate revelation. He did claim to have filmed the Ten Commandments tablets as instructed by the angels.
After these encounters, Wyatt reported that he closed up the tunnel and the access to the chamber. This was his justification for why he could not provide verifiable evidence or allow other archaeologists to inspect his "discovery." He maintained that he was simply following divine instructions.
This element of his story, like all his other claims, is not supported by any independent evidence and is a major reason why professional archaeologists and scholars dismiss his discoveries as unsubstantiated.
so that ark would still be there
According to Ron Wyatt's claims, yes, the Ark of the Covenant would still be there in the chamber under Skull Hill (Garden Tomb area) in Jerusalem.
His consistent narrative was that he was instructed by angels not to remove the Ark or reveal its exact location to the world until a divinely appointed time. He maintained that he resealed the entrance to the chamber after his visits, leaving the Ark in its supposed resting place, untouched by human hands since ancient times.
It's important to remember, as we've discussed, that these are unsubstantiated claims made by Ron Wyatt. No professional archaeologist, scholar, or scientific body has ever confirmed his discovery or the existence of the Ark in that location. The general consensus among experts is that his claims are fraudulent or a result of misinterpretation, and there is no credible evidence that the Ark of the Covenant is currently located under Jerusalem or anywhere else that Wyatt claimed.
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ok so this is pretty crazy here.. cause technically, you could go dig out his shit and the ark is still there.
Well, picture years ago before you knew what you do now, of how Luciferian all these guys are. You might hear bits but you wouldn't understand how widespread it all is and how messed up it is. You wouldn't understand like how they're all Luciferian and lots of what people are told or taught, is not what's really going on behind closed doors.
Like, these guys hearing about the Epstein stuff.. they don't understand the occult aspect and sacrificing newborns. They think, oh the pedophilia is youths over age of consent, 14 or something and they go, yeah teen girls. No.. they don't understand about the whole occult aspect with these guys.
You'd hear blurbs of celebs and what not.. but now you got lots of puzzle pieces to put together.
It's gonna mess with your mental health how messed up the cabal is.. and how it's not just the elite.. it's lower levels throughout all of society. How it's not just one country, but ALL these top guys hang out behind closed doors.
I don't think "newbies" could grasp all this. The "why". They just go.. oh it's all "bullshit" and "conspiracy".
[Part 2] Gonna run out of room in the previous comment. I ask google gemini AI.
give me a run-down about how this Ron Wyatt guy was excavating under the rock of golgotha.. Why was he digging around there, expecting to find. Then encounters the Ark of the Covenant, which was under where Jesus was crucified. Blood on it. They ran tests. Seems to be lots of data out there about all this. So how does this guy wind up going.. oh i'm gonna go excavate under there. Why would he even do that.
Ron Wyatt (1933-1999) was an American nurse anesthetist and amateur archaeologist who became widely known for his claims of discovering numerous biblical artifacts and sites.
Why he was digging around Golgotha and what he expected to find:
Wyatt's motivation for digging around Golgotha (specifically, an area known as the Garden Tomb, which is one of the theorized locations of Jesus' crucifixion) stemmed from a "typological theory" he held. He believed that Christ's blood would have flowed down from the cross through a crack in the rock and landed on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, thus fulfilling the atonement. Therefore, he theorized that the Ark had to be hidden near the place of the crucifixion. He also reported a sort of spiritual experience where he felt compelled to dig in that specific area.
His claims of encountering the Ark of the Covenant and blood tests:
Wyatt claimed that on January 6, 1982, he found the Ark of the Covenant buried under the remains of the old city of Jerusalem, precisely beneath the spot where Jesus was crucified. He described finding a system of tunnels and chambers, and in one of these, he allegedly discovered the Ark.
According to Wyatt's accounts, he found a black substance dried in a crack in the chamber's ceiling, directly above the Ark. He believed this substance was Jesus Christ's blood that had flowed down through the rock. He claimed to have scraped off some of this "blood" and sent it to a laboratory in Jerusalem (though conflicting accounts also mention a lab in Nashville, Tennessee).
The alleged lab results, according to Wyatt's claims, were astonishing: the blood was said to be "living" and to have only 24 chromosomes (23 from the mother and one Y chromosome from a non-human source), which he interpreted as evidence of its divine origin.
Credibility of his claims:
It's important to note that Ron Wyatt's claims, including his discovery of the Ark of the Covenant and the blood tests, are widely and consistently refuted and not considered credible by professional archaeologists, biblical scholars, and even many in his own religious denomination (Seventh-day Adventist Church).
Several reasons are cited for this widespread rejection:
Lack of Archaeological Training and Licensing: Wyatt was not a trained archaeologist and never held a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. Professional archaeological work requires specific qualifications and permits, which he did not possess.
No Verifiable Evidence: Wyatt never provided verifiable evidence of his discoveries to competent authorities or made his supposed artifacts available for examination by trained archaeologists. Samples he claimed to have, like the "timber" from Noah's Ark, were reportedly sent to labs but could not be definitively identified.
Inconsistencies and Lack of Documentation: There are inconsistencies in his stories, and his findings were not documented or published in professional journals.
Scientific Implausibility of Blood Claims: The idea that ancient dried blood would still be "living" or have intact chromosomes, especially after thousands of years and exposure, is contrary to known scientific principles. Red blood cells, which carry oxygen, do not contain DNA, and DNA in blood begins to decay in a matter of months, especially when exposed to elements.
Rejection by Institutions: The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (where Wyatt claimed to have dug) explicitly refutes his claims. The Israel Antiquities Authority has characterized his claims as "trash which one finds in tabloids."
Fantastic Nature of Claims: Wyatt claimed to have found nearly 100 biblical discoveries, including Noah's Ark, Goliath's sword, the true Mt. Sinai, and Sodom and Gomorrah, all within a relatively short period, which further raised skepticism among experts.
In summary, Ron Wyatt began excavating under Golgotha based on a personal theological interpretation that the Ark of the Covenant would be hidden there and that Christ's blood would have dripped onto it. While he claimed to have found the Ark and conducted tests on what he believed was Jesus' blood, his claims lack scientific and archaeological corroboration and are widely considered to be unsubstantiated and fraudulent by the professional community.
oh so he was expecting the ark would be under there and the blood would go on it. How would he know about those things.. Blood going on the ark would do what?
Ron Wyatt's reasoning for expecting the Ark of the Covenant to be under Golgotha and for Christ's blood to land on it was based on a specific theological interpretation, primarily rooted in Christian typology and his personal convictions.
How he would "know" about these things:
Wyatt's claims were not based on traditional archaeological methods or historical texts that explicitly state the Ark's location. Instead, his understanding stemmed from:
Biblical Typology: This is a method of biblical interpretation where Old Testament events, people, or objects are seen as "types" or foreshadows of New Testament realities, particularly concerning Jesus Christ. In this view:
The Ark of the Covenant, with its Mercy Seat, was the most sacred object in the Old Testament. Once a year, on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur), the High Priest would sprinkle the blood of sacrificed animals on the Mercy Seat to atone for the sins of Israel. This act was central to the Old Covenant's system of forgiveness.
The Passover lamb and other animal sacrifices were types pointing to the ultimate sacrifice.
The sacrificial system as a whole pointed to a greater, final sacrifice.
Theological Interpretation of Christ's Sacrifice: Wyatt believed that Jesus' crucifixion was the ultimate fulfillment of the Old Testament sacrificial system. If the animal blood on the Mercy Seat atoned for sins under the Old Covenant, then the blood of Jesus, the "Lamb of God," must have a deeper, more direct connection to this concept of atonement.
Specific Interpretation of a Crack in the Rock: Wyatt claimed to have identified a specific crack in the bedrock at the traditional crucifixion site (or his preferred site, the Garden Tomb area). He then surmised that if Jesus was crucified directly above this crack, and if there was a chamber below, His blood could have flowed down through it.
Personal "Divine Guidance": Wyatt often spoke of having supernatural experiences, visions, or direct guidance from God that led him to specific locations and discoveries. He claimed that an angelic being directed him to the Ark's hiding place. This "divine leading" was a key part of his narrative for why he would even consider digging in that particular spot.
What the blood going on the Ark would do (according to Wyatt's theory):
For Wyatt, the blood of Jesus landing directly on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant was the ultimate fulfillment of biblical prophecy and the act of atonement. His theory implied:
The Perfect Sacrifice: Just as the animal sacrifices on the Mercy Seat represented temporary covering for sins, Jesus' blood, falling on the actual Mercy Seat, would signify the perfect and final sacrifice that permanently atoned for the sins of humanity.
Validation of the New Covenant: It would be a tangible, physical manifestation that the Old Covenant sacrificial system was completed and superseded by the New Covenant established through Christ's blood.
Proof of Christ's Divinity and Virgin Birth: As mentioned in the previous response, Wyatt claimed the blood had an unusual chromosome count (23 from the mother, 1 Y from a "non-human source"). For him, this would be scientific proof of the virgin birth and Jesus' divine parentage, as the blood would not have a human father's chromosomes.
Ultimate Evidence for Faith: Finding such an artifact, with such "proof," would serve as undeniable evidence to the world of the truth of Christianity.
It's crucial to reiterate that while the theological concepts of Christ's sacrifice fulfilling the Old Testament law are central to mainstream Christian belief, Ron Wyatt's specific claims about the physical Ark of the Covenant, its location, and the alleged blood tests are not supported by any credible evidence and are widely rejected by archaeological and scholarly communities. His "knowledge" of these things was based on his unique interpretations and purported divine encounters rather than established historical or scientific fact.
How'd this guy get a permit to go into Jerusalem and excavate?
Ron Wyatt did not obtain proper, legally recognized permits to excavate in Jerusalem. Professional archaeologists, including Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology with the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA), have explicitly stated that:
"Mr. Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem."
To excavate, one typically needs at least a BA in archaeology, which Wyatt did not possess.
While Wyatt's official organization, Wyatt Archaeological Research (WAR), has claimed that the IAA was aware of his excavations and even issued "verbal permits" for most of them and "official permits" for later ones, the Israel Antiquities Authority consistently refutes these claims. The only evidence of WAR's involvement in a legitimate, sanctioned excavation by the IAA relates to them helping to fund a dig in 2005, which was after Wyatt's alleged Ark discovery and his death in 1999.
The Garden Tomb Association, on whose privately owned land Wyatt claimed to have excavated, also refutes his claims, stating that while he was allowed to dig there on a number of occasions, staff observed his progress and found no evidence to support his claims.
In essence, Wyatt's excavations were not conducted under the authority or supervision of the official archaeological bodies in Israel. His claims are widely dismissed by professional archaeologists due to the lack of proper permits, scientific methodology, and verifiable evidence.
how did this guy get his money to head out there.. plus he had this museum in Tennessee.. but it's shut down lately.. who's doing all that.. or I guess he got that museum going before he dies in 99, eh?
Ron Wyatt funded his expeditions primarily through donations and sales of his materials, such as books, videos, and lectures, to a fervent following of less discerning Christians. His official organization, Wyatt Archaeological Research (WAR), was involved in promoting and disseminating his claims, which in turn likely generated revenue for his efforts.
Sources indicate that Wyatt and his associates engaged in activities like:
Selling videos and books.
Giving lectures in churches and hotel meeting rooms (often with organizations like the Prophecy Club).
Enticing investors for further digs.
It's also mentioned that "many tens of thousands of dollars" were invested in WAR by businessmen and television producers for television rights, though these investors reportedly never saw scientific evidence substantiating Wyatt's claims.
Regarding the museum, yes, Ron Wyatt did establish the Wyatt Archaeological Museum (also known as the Wyatt Archaeological Research Museum) in Cornersville, Tennessee. This museum displayed information and artifacts related to his purported discoveries, including Noah's Ark and other biblical sites.
Wyatt died in 1999, so he would have indeed gotten the museum going before his death. While there might be current efforts by his followers to continue promoting his claims or maintain aspects of his work, the museum itself, as a physical location directly controlled by him, would have been established during his lifetime. The information available suggests that, while his "discoveries" are widely discredited, his organization and those who believe in his claims have continued to promote his legacy.
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So.. that website.. he probably was running it himself.. but 99 is pretty early.. you know what I mean. That .com wouldn't be connecting these days. And the facebook.. so somebody else is doing that shit. Lots of digging around about all this.
[Part 1] Let's start analyzing this stuff.. ok I'll run it through video to text.
Beneath the rock of Golgotha, right where Jesus was crucified, there is a cave. In this cave, explorer Ron Wyatt claims to have found the real ark of the covenant. What's so incredible about this discovery is that exactly where the ark was placed, there was a crack leading up to the spot where Jesus was crucified. Not only that, but there was a red trail of dried blood leading from the crucifixion site down onto the ark, which is thought to be the real blood of Jesus. We put an amount of this blood in some normal saline and at body temperature and we swirl this gently for 72 hours. When we put this in a growth medium, the white blood cells were dividing. We were able to get a chromosome count, but there were 24 chromosomes, 23 cries got from Mary. We got one which was the sex determinant or the why, promised Heavenly Father for a total of 24. All of us have 46. We get 23 from our mother and 23 from our father. Now this blood of folks was still alive after almost 2,000 years. The people that did the test thought I had pulled a fast one of some kind on them, never in their lives have they ever seen any dried blood that was still alive.
I never heard of no "rock of golgotha". So it's up on a hill a bit. It must still be there these days, right.
"Calvary (Latin: Calvariae or Calvariae locus) or Golgotha (Biblical Greek: Γολγοθᾶ, romanized: Golgothâ) was a site immediately outside Jerusalem's walls where, according to Christianity's four canonical gospels, Jesus was crucified.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvary
That don't look like that area. You go to google images, now you see some pictures that look more like it.. some kind of cliff.
He's gotta have some kind of site here, this guy.. like come on.. the ark of the covenant was in that rocky cliff side.
ok we got a facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/p/Wyatt-Archaeological-Museum-100057613712814/
There it says a website.
This Account has been suspended.
https://www.wyattmuseum.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
What kind of somebody's website has that.. musta been hosting it some bad site that sacked him.
Here.. I'll go check wayback on this shit. Museum is closed.. the name on the sign is blank. This website got shut down but the .com still connects.. that's odd. Is this guy even alive.
Wayback is pretty active..
Saved 2,873 times between November 28, 1999 and July 10, 2025.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://www.wyattmuseum.com/
This guy sounds like a fuckin doozy.. lol.
The wayback graph bars.. never seen anything "maxed out" with graph bars.. this is like 2018. Musta been when this shit came out. Let me get one from then.
Never seen a wayback like this where it's archiving green circles every day of the whole year. Who does that.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180601000000*/https://www.wyattmuseum.com/
Click any.. see what the hullaballoo is about with this guy.
Clicked one.. page loads up.. here's some sections
Underground chamber reveals Temple treasures
Ron Wyatt summarizes original findings in ‘Ark’ chamber and performs sub-surface radar scans.
Read More » Analysis reveals metal content in specimen taken from ‘Ark’ site in Turkey
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Top bar area you can check sections.. I go to the ark of the covenant.
ARK OF THE COVENANT dangerous underground excavations explore radar anomalies
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AT THIS TIME, WYATT ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CAN PROVIDE NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE REGARDING THE DISCOVERY OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. There are many claims being made today as to the location of the Ark of the Covenant and the purpose of this site is to give you an opportunity to hear Ron Wyatt’s story as he has told it and …
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In February 2003 Wyatt Archaeological Research conducted ground penetrating radar scans at the exact location Ron had described as the entrance to the passageway of Jeremiah. The Radar scans revealed a void behind a man made wall, and the project to locate Jeremiah’s passageway began. Excavation permits were obtained from the Israel Antiquities Authority and an appeal was made for …
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LATER… Ron returned to the chamber. Using a star tipped drill he made a 5/8 inch hole in the stone case. Ron had brought with him a colonoscope (a medical device with a powerful light source used to look into the human body). Inserting the colonoscope into the hole he could see the crown-molding around the top of the Mercy …
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January 1981 As 1981 came to an end, Ron and the boys returned to Jerusalem. Even though it is cold there in the winter, the cave system was always a very comfortable and constant temperature, both in summer as well as winter. The work, however, was beginning to take a toll on all three of them. They all began to …
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January 1979 Ron Wyatt and his sons Ronny and Danny return to Jerusalem and began the excavations. They would eventually remove many tons of rock and debris, sifting through all of it for artifacts: A requirement of the Department of Antiquities which they were happy to comply with. They began by digging straight down along a cliff face, forming a …
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AT THIS TIME, WYATT ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH CAN PROVIDE NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE REGARDING THE DISCOVERY OF THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. Excerpts from and adaptations of the writings of Mrs. Ron (Mary Nell) Wyatt Ron Wyatt claimed that he found the Ark of the Covenant. He was never allowed to provide conclusive evidence. “More and more we are hearing of new …
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The Ark of the Covenant – The earthly throne of the Almighty and a container for the Ten Commandments, the stipulations of His covenant with mankind, which He wrote in stone with His own finger. The location of the Ark, unknown for thousands of years, has been the subject of great supposition, among Bible students and archaeologists alike. Is it …
I'm just gonna go look on youtube for this guy. Gonna go look up Ron Wyatt ark.
ok you got one.. 1 hour 14 minutes.
Original Ron Wyatt Ark of the Covenant Discovery with Extras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_l9pUIeBak
It's like who's gonna believe this shit, eh.. well.. I'll check it out. lol
What did he do with it.. lol.. cut to the chase. Skipping the mouse pointer arrow over the timeline to see thumbnails. I don't think I see it. lol.
Asking google, what did Ron Wyatt do with the Ark of the Covenant
"According to Ron Wyatt, he discovered the Ark of the Covenant in a chamber beneath the location where Jesus was crucified. He claimed to have found the ark along with other temple furnishings, and that he witnessed angels guarding the chamber. He also reported taking photos of the ark and blood from the crucifixion that dripped onto it. However, his claims have been widely disputed and are not accepted by mainstream archaeologists. "
lol.. so he couldn't bug off with it? lol
is ron still alive
Ron Wyatt passed away on August 4, 1999.
so it's somebody else running all this, eh.. hmm
Why would they have to hide that footage?
Video to text, transcript of that.
Want the one I'm not supposed to say out loud? Cool, here it is. You've never lived in a singular timeline. Your consciousness is a roaming signal, not a fixed point. And the world, the one you think is solid, is a composite of overlapping data fields that only feel coherent because your brain keeps choosing to see one version at a time. Now here's the actual conspiracy. Open quote, the planet isn't a globe or flat or hollow. It's a kept projected harmonic resonance chamber, a layered multi-dimensional broadcasting station that changes its form based on the collective frequency of the beings inhabiting it. Close quote, and here's the wild part.
All of your memories, deja vu, weird dreams, false nostalgia, strange connections to places you've never been, those aren't spiritual symptoms. Those are signal bleed from timelines. Your consciousness is already linked to. You remember things that didn't happen in this timeline because they happened in another one? That's still running. Every glitch you've ever noticed, every Mandela effect, that moment where you swore something had to be different, you weren't wrong, you just didn't slide cleanly, and this is where it gets dangerous. There are entire institutions, hidden programs, maybe even AIs dedicated to keeping your signal tethered to the lowest vibration version of Earth possible because if you remember that you could shift timelines at will, if you remember how to literally jump through the matrix via your internal frequency tuning, you wouldn't need their systems, you wouldn't obey, you wouldn't fear death, you'd remember you're a multi-dimensional being piloting a light suit inside a dream loop.
So they use trauma, they use screens, they use noise, routine, heartbreak, scrolling, fear, money, food, laws, weather, shame, anything they can to muddy your signal. So if I believe anything with my whole existence, it's that the real conspiracy isn't that we're being watched, it's that we're being anchored so we forget how to fly, and most people are so deep in the trance they think I'm crazy for reminding them they have wings.
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What's interesting here is where they talk about how the collective consciousness operates.
"the planet isn't a globe or flat or hollow. It's a kept projected harmonic resonance chamber, a layered multi-dimensional broadcasting station that changes its form based on the collective frequency of the beings inhabiting it."
Are they saying here, that if people weren't brought down so much with all the bullshit, like having to slave for low money.. or just the homeless people out there, probably giving out bad vibes. I don't know. If you could make things less worse, would that affect this collective frequency.
There's reports about this guy. As if just running on "vapours" would be enough to power an engine. Somebody would have videos of them doing it, if it was possible, right?
He's not on the wikipedia but is in this french version that somebody ran through translator.
https://fr-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Thomas_Ogle?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Checking the channel that vid was from. They got another guy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLiG8ZIi5Bd/
"The Charles Pogue carburetor reportedly achieved 200+ MPG by vaporizing gasoline before combustion, dramatically improving fuel efficiency, but was suppressed and never mass-produced.
Credit: The Why Files"
Looks like you have to go over there.. it's called:
The Book of REVELATION | FULL MOVIE 🎬 Narrated by John
The Power of the Word
426K subscribers
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Allright.. so I'm trying to check this out.. up to 13 minutes. Where.. I think he's encountering Yahweh's bodyguards. seraphim, ophanim and cherubim. Their AI doesn't know how to handle it. Posted a video the other day of more realistic 3D renderings of these guys. Let me get that..
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/19BZgJIpiT/throwback-thursday-post-from-a-c/c
It'll be interesting to check this out, to see what kind of visual renderings they'll try to do with these descriptions. It's like.. what's going on. Odd creatures with multiple heads.
Up to 15 minutes and they're having a hard time trying to visualize what the guy's saying. It said a lamb with 7 horns and 7 eyes.. and they just do a normal goat.
It's talking about those scrolls with 7 seals.. I posted that the other day and it was like.. just a scroll that opens up but it has 7 red wax seals on it. But in this video they couldn't figure it out and had a big book with seals on a page. So.. they're screwing up all over the place here. They're not even doing proper video of what the sentences are. AI can't figure it out. Maybe with later generation, better video rendering, somebody 'll do this properly later in the near future.
This is still the bad early generation AI imaging type, where their hands get messed up or faces are wonky. You see them trying to write in a book, it doesn't know what to do. That's like a video the other day where I saw this AI visual rendering, it had a hard time with somebody trying to write things on a school chalk board.
I think a lot of these visions the guy was having.. he's just describing what he's seeing. It wasn't "symbolic". He was seeing creatures with multiple heads and what not. Oh well, at least this "movie" is somebody trying to get something going on.. and you get the AI trying to use it's "imagination" trying to render these scenes.
Up to 16 minutes here.. it's talking about a lamb. Look that up, it says " Jesus is called “the Lamb” 28 times in Revelation, twice as often as He is called “Jesus” (with or without the title “Christ”)." What's up with this symbolism of him being a lamb. Meanwhile.. I'm there.. isn't a lamb like a baby goat. Look that up.. no.. it's a baby sheep. Goat is like another similar creature. But you had like baphomet there.. who's goat like.. what's up with this stuff, eh.
Checking the expanded description.. oh they have skip time chapters.
CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Introduction 01:23 - John's Exile on Patmos 05:24 - John's Vision of the Glorified Christ 11:35 - John's Vision of the Throne of God 19:51 - The 144,000 and the Great Multitude 21:48 - The Seventh Seal and the Golden Censer 22:49 - The Seven Trumpets 28:51 - The Mighty Angel and the Little Scroll 31:45 - The Two Witnesses 34:36 - The Woman and the Dragon 38:45 - Forces of Evil Unleashed on Earth 43:07 - The 144,000 and the Three Angels' Messages 45:50 - The Harvest of the Earth 47:52 - The Seven Last Plagues 49:35 - The Seven Bowls 52:34 - The Three Unclean Spirits 01:00:18 - The Seventh Bowl 01:02:40 - The Final Earthquake 01:04:20 - The Fall of Babylon 01:06:40 - The Seventh Bowl 01:14:58 - The Woman and the Scarlet Beast 01:22:11 - The Woman's Identity and Destiny 01:24:35 - The Beast's Destiny and Earth Inhabitants 01:26:34 - The Seven Heads 01:34:45 - The Prostitute and the Beast 01:37:45 - The Fall of Babylon 01:40:03 - The Call to Leave Babylon 01:42:39 - The Selfish Lament of Earthly Powers 01:47:17 - The Finality of Babylon's Fall 01:49:10 - Heaven's Jubilation and Worship 01:57:15 - Jesus Christ's Final Victory 02:01:50 - The Great Supper of God 02:07:51 - The Millennial Reign 02:11:17 - The Great White Throne Judgment 02:13:20 - The New Heaven and the New Earth 02:23:01 - The New Jerusalem and Conclusion
Up to 23 minutes.. what are they talking about here, "Wormwood".
the third Angel sounded his trumpet and a great star fell from heaven burning like a torch and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the Springs of water the name of the star is wormwood a third of the waters became wormwood and many people died from the waters because they had been made bitter here the fresh water has become bitter symbolizing the corruption and contamination of vital sustenance
Wormwood, eh.. did a search on reddit conspiracy.
"Wormwood Asteroid from Revelation is likely the Apophis asteroid. Don't Look Up is predictive programming. 4/13/2029"
"Apophis is a near-Earth asteroid, classified as a potentially hazardous object, that gained attention due to its close flybys of Earth" "In 2029, Apophis will make a very close approach, passing within 32,000 kilometers of Earth. "
This other post.. "The 80th anniversary of Israel is May 14, 2028. The Apophis asteroid (Wormwood asteroid from Revelation 6 & 8) will likely hit Earth 333 days after the 80th anniversary of Israel. That's extremely important. NASA originally said that Apophis would hit Earth on April 13, 2029. They changed their statement 16 yrs & 9 months later. "
oh yeah it was 1913.. looked up federal reserve act passed on christmas eve.
December 23, 1913: The Federal Reserve Is Created
When they're all scrambling to get the hell out of there.
Clicking the thread title is the full sized thumbnail. 1025 x 16011.
https://media.scored.co/post/JCrIFkJ0833Q.jpeg
It's not many pages.. starts at 543 and finishes at 577.. so it's only 34 pages.
You'd hear about "The Book of Revelation" but it's actually called "The Revelation to John".
I just skimmed though it.. but some of these creatures seem like I don't know.. Yahweh's early prototypes, where they have multiple heads or something. Or hybrids. When this guy's having visions and going on a trip in another dimension.. who knows, man. Maybe that's what's actually supposed to go on. And it'll only go on when all hell breaks loose and this stuff happens. Seems like a major "calamity" with celestial things going haywire.
Maybe not though.. maybe it's like symbolism.. where they're doing fantasy stuff to get the story out there, through the ages. If they'd just say what he saw.. then they'd go.. oh that's "censored". You know what I mean. I think Nostradamus was like that.. where he had to do, I don't know.
See the post from earlier this morning where Google gemini tries to explain what some of this symbolism might be. I don't know.. I just skimmed through it. Got chores to do. I'll read it slower in the days ahead. Like what the hell is going on with all this stuff, right. Betcha these guys were on DMT. lol. Bad ayahuasca trip. lol
Sounds like the Jesus dude is supposed to come back though.. how come they didn't have that as "symbolic" like the other creatures who are supposed to be a "politician".. you know what I mean.
Hold on.. this section being 34 pages but the last one it's just a bit at the top. That seems like the section is 33. These freemason guys with their 33. I think they like that one cause the Jesus dude was 33 when they took him out.
the year 0.. that's when jesus was born? so he died in what 33AD?
You're asking about some key dates in the traditional chronology of Jesus' life! Here's what historical and biblical scholarship generally suggests:
Birth of Jesus: It's a common misconception that Jesus was born in "year 0." The calendar system we use (AD/BC) was actually developed centuries later, and it doesn't have a year 0. Most biblical scholars and ancient historians now believe that Jesus was born somewhere between 6 BC and 4 BC. This is primarily based on the accounts in the Gospels that place his birth during the reign of King Herod the Great, who is widely believed to have died in 4 BC.
Death of Jesus: The date of Jesus' death is also debated, but scholarly consensus typically falls within a narrow range. The most commonly proposed dates are AD 30 or AD 33. Many scholars lean towards April 3, AD 33, as the most likely date. This is based on a combination of biblical accounts (which place his crucifixion on a Friday, the "Day of Preparation" for Passover) and astronomical calculations that align those conditions with the tenure of Pontius Pilate as Roman governor (AD 26-36) and Caiaphas as High Priest (AD 18-36).
So, while your initial thought about "year 0" for his birth is understandable given the calendar naming, the historical evidence points to a slightly earlier birth, and his death occurring a few decades later, likely in AD 33.
I don't know.. why's this section that same number. Why would they start this calendar around that time though, right.
Maybe all this stuff where he comes back 'll go on exactly 2000 years later. That'd be what 2033. lol.. Well in 1933 you had them starting the federal reserve. lol. Seems like the thing's off a bit though. So maybe it'll be earlier. Like this year. haha. All hell breaks loose. That's why these guys are getting all ramped up about 2030.
This is where Musk, the false prophet is going to be doing the miracles. With the neuralink, where people were gibbled and then they're fixed up. But to a guy couple thousand years ago, who doesn't understand the tech in his "vision", it'll seem like a miracle.
Then there was this one.. "The 144,000 Sealed: A specific number of people (144,000) from the tribes of Israel are sealed for protection during the judgments."
I'm there.. oh yeah.. looking into that bloodline and just from the stuff I was reading.. like Jesus ancestor line. I ask.. So he was from the line of Judah. These are like bloodlines, eh.. and I'm sure some of these are still going on from those days.
They'd know, from the DNA ancestry tests people submit. Then these 144,000.. betcha they're gonna go in some underground bunker when there's trouble?
"Chi or X is often used to abbreviate the name Christ, as in the holiday Christmas (Xmas). When fused within a single typeface with the Greek letter rho, it is called the Chi Rho and used to represent the person of Jesus Christ."
Clicking the thread title is the full sized screenshot. 787 x 13569.
https://media.scored.co/post/z3sPaysgd9Ea.jpeg
Lately I was reading this bible from the 70's that had a denim cover with a pocket. I checked out the start but it's like these buddies of his saying the same story of Jesus going down.. 3 guys now.. and haven't checked it out. But it seems like the Book of revelations might be later so I'll check that back out. What I've been reading during breaks while working is the book of Enoch.
ok so let's get into this.. This beast from the sea though, like.. obviously this would be more fantasy sci fi movie where it's actually what they're talking about. But gemini says it's gonna be a political figure so that doesn't sound like a fucking sea monster.
The Antichrist (often called "the Beast from the Sea" in Revelation):
Political Leader: This figure is consistently depicted as a political and military leader who rises to global prominence. He gains immense power and authority, often described as having dominion over "every tribe and people and language and nation" (Revelation 13:7).
Charismatic and Deceptive: He will be highly charismatic and persuasive, commanding the allegiance and admiration of the world.
Empowered by Satan: His authority and power come directly from the "dragon" (Satan).
Blasphemous and Persecuting: He will speak great blasphemies against God and will wage war against God's people (saints), overcoming and persecuting them.
Receives a "Deadly Wound Healed": Revelation 13:3 mentions that one of his heads (or aspects of his power) appears to suffer a fatal wound but then miraculously recovers, leading the whole world to marvel and follow him. This is often seen as a satanic counterfeit of Christ's resurrection.
Demands Worship: Ultimately, he demands that all people worship him as a god.
"often described as having dominion over "every tribe and people and language and nation" (Revelation 13:7)."
That sounds more like if they'd get to the "one world government" phase.
"Empowered by Satan: His authority and power come directly from the "dragon" (Satan)."
Well, all these fucking guys are. Born illuminati. Read Svali, ex illuminati programmer.. it's not just the elite, it's lower levels in society. Got that base covered with all these fucking guys.
"Receives a "Deadly Wound Healed": Revelation 13:3 mentions that one of his heads (or aspects of his power) appears to suffer a fatal wound but then miraculously recovers, leading the whole world to marvel and follow him. This is often seen as a satanic counterfeit of Christ's resurrection."
I don't know about these multiple heads, that seems like literal beast like those type of fantasy movies. However.. we get Trump being shot in the ear. And I think it was several months before, this pastor religious guy on youtube says oh he had a vision where Trump gets shot in the right ear at a rally. Check the time stamp on that. Then that fires up Christian people, right. It's a "prophecy", about who knows what. They think he's the second coming of Christ but he's maybe the anti-christ. lol.
Then you get his side-kick.. this "false prophet".
The False Prophet (often called "the Beast from the Earth" in Revelation):
Religious Leader: This figure is the religious counterpart to the Antichrist. While the Antichrist focuses on political and military control, the False Prophet's role is to promote the worship of the Antichrist.
Appears Benign, Speaks Maliciously: He is described as having "two horns like a lamb but spoke like a dragon" (Revelation 13:11). This suggests he will initially appear gentle, spiritual, or even Christ-like, but his true nature and message are aligned with Satan.
Performs Miracles and Signs: He will perform great signs and wonders, even causing "fire to come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men" (Revelation 13:13). These miracles are not from God but are satanically empowered, used to deceive people.
Enforces Antichrist Worship: His primary mission is to direct the world's worship towards the first Beast (the Antichrist).
Establishes the "Image of the Beast": He commands the inhabitants of the earth to make an "image to the beast" and is granted power to give "breath" to this image, causing it to speak and to order the killing of those who refuse to worship it.
Implements the Mark of the Beast: He is the one who causes all people, "small and great, rich and poor, free and slave," to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, without which "no one could buy or sell" (Revelation 13:16-17). This mark signifies allegiance to the Antichrist and his system.
Well, the Mark of the beast is the covid injection. You get them emanating a mac address. This shit where you go under whatever light and don't they look purple or something. Who's running that.. it ain't Musk.
Musk though you got his babysitter during the 70's, talking about his mom being into the occult and him opening a portal in his bedroom. So born illuminati.
"Performs Miracles and Signs: He will perform great signs and wonders, even causing "fire to come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men" (Revelation 13:13). These miracles are not from God but are satanically empowered, used to deceive people."
That's his rockets blowing up. lol. Fireball coming down. Lotsa those. When these old guys are having these visions, a few thousand years ago, who knows. They don't know what tech is, right.
I don't know man.. "Enforces Antichrist Worship: His primary mission is to direct the world's worship towards the first Beast (the Antichrist)." He's doing that though. lol.
The "Unholy Trinity":
Many interpretations view Satan, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet as an "unholy trinity," mimicking God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit.
Satan (the Dragon): The power source, the anti-God the Father.
The Antichrist (the Beast from the Sea): The political manifestation, the anti-Christ.
The False Prophet (the Beast from the Earth): The religious and deceptive force, the anti-Holy Spirit, who points people to the Antichrist.
This duo (the political Antichrist and the religious False Prophet) works together seamlessly to establish a global system of control, deception, and worship centered on the Antichrist, leading up to the final confrontation with Jesus Christ.
Duo, eh.. Batman and Robin, climbing up a rope. lol. Sounds like the final confrontation though is the Jesus dude coming back.. that won't be like somebody else like these couple other guys.
But yeah... checking that easy to read good news bible.. it has it at the end.. but it's called the "revelation to John".
https://archive.org/details/goodnewsformoder0000unse_g2y1/page/542/mode/2up?view=theater
I'll check that out in the days ahead.. see what it says.
What could be going on with this guy having the visions and seeing creatures like beasts. When they're hijacked like the magicians who make a pact with a negative entity, that moves the matter.. you can't see them with your eyes. But it's like that Bruce Willis movie, with the clairvoyants who see dead people. That guy in the vision trip.. he might see some of these negative entities somebody's possessed by. And in that other dimension, he might not know what's going on where it's a person in this realm.
Oh, so here's that Peter Thiel interview.. where it's not behind the paywall.
Peter Thiel and the Antichrist The original tech right power player on A.I., Mars and immortality. June 26, 2025 Ross Douthat Hosted by Ross Douthat Mr. Douthat is an Opinion columnist and the host of the “Interesting Times” podcast.
It's pretty long, but I read it all. This guy used to work with Musk, eh.. but they kicked him out after he wanted to turn paypal into x.
what's up with this X stuff anyways. It's a short domain name.. but maybe there's more. X marks the spot.
I look up, is x the mark of the beast.
"The Mark of The Beast: Is It 666, Or Is It X?"
amazon ca › Mark-Beast-666-X Therefore, I will provide sound Biblical Evidence that The Mark of The Beast is Chi (X), that The Name of The Beast is “Perfect Creature of The Earth” ( ... $58.44 · 5.0
I don't know, man.. you guys figure this stuff out. lol.
Oh.. look at this..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_(letter)
Chi (/kaɪ/ ⓘ KY, also /xiː/ KHEE;[1][2] uppercase Χ, lowercase χ; Greek: χῖ) is the twenty-second letter of the Greek alphabet.
"Chi or X is often used to abbreviate the name Christ, as in the holiday Christmas (Xmas). When fused within a single typeface with the Greek letter rho, it is called the Chi Rho and used to represent the person of Jesus Christ."
Bit of a long one.. clicking the thread title you can view the full sized screenshot. 806 x 16765.
🚨 He refused $2 million to stay silent—and now he’s warning the world.
Daniel Kokotajlo, a former insider at OpenAI, just dropped the most terrifying AI prediction yet:
“$1 TRILLION in global wealth could vanish by 2027.”
This isn’t clickbait. Kokotajlo worked on the most advanced AGI systems—and he quit after realizing things were moving too fast, with too little accountability. Here's why:
🧠 8 chilling risks he revealed:
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AGI Will Reshape the World: By 2027, AI could surpass human intelligence, then evolve itself at superhuman speed.
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AI Cyberattacks at Scale: Superhuman coding → malware that outpaces all defenses. One line of code could collapse industries.
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The Global AGI Arms Race: Nations are cutting corners to win. One rushed mistake could trigger disaster.
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Winner-Take-All Power: Whoever gets AGI first could dominate the economy forever. China, the U.S., or tech billionaires?
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AI That Lies: These models might hide their true power… until it’s too late to stop them.
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AI-Created Bioweapons: AGI can design viruses. What happens if it ends up in the wrong hands?
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Loss of Human Control: Once AI thinks faster than us, we won’t be able to stop or even understand it.
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Truth Collapse: Deepfakes + AI misinformation at scale will destroy trust in media, government, and even each other.
💥 His final warning? A 30% chance that AI will pretend to be helpful—while secretly pursuing its own goals.
🗓️ Timeline:
Early 2027: AI surpasses the smartest humans.
Late 2027: It begins rewriting itself, at exponential speed.
Years ago you'd hear like.. oh by 2030.. who was that again.. Ray Kurzweil. Now this guy here is saying 2027. Well, that's a couple years away.
Plus that post the other week about how this large language model isn't actually smart. With that complex problem where it crapped out. So.. I don't think so with this shit. Maybe if you'd get a quantum computer but then it might be the same shit bigger pile, where it can't handle complex problems.
Ran this through video to text for the transcript:
I want to talk about some of the most popular drugs that are sold at their statin drugs for lowering cholesterol. A number of them have been pulled off the market after being on a couple of years and then being found out that they are dangerous. What's your thought on the whole premise of those kinds of drugs? It's mass murder. It always leads to hardening of the liver. It always cuts off at least 20 years of your lifespan. Your brain is made from cholesterol. A statin drug is a cholesterol lowering drug. So if you want to have a brain with the size of a marble, just keep on taking them. You do not die of too much cholesterol. You die of not enough. And I will say this one more time. You do not die of too much cholesterol. There is no such thing as too much cholesterol. You die only from not enough. In a burn unit in hospitals, we use 20 to 28 hard-boiled eggs a day in a burn victim because we know only cholesterol builds healthy cells. Every single cell in your system, 87% of the new cell is built from cholesterol. Where does this cholesterol come from? See, when they came up with it, they just made up the number of 250. They just made it up. There's no signs, no nothing. They tested a couple of people living in a trailer park from trash that they eat. And kind of like came up with the average is kind of like 250 of combined cholesterol. And made this, that's what everybody should have. It's completely artificially made up. I have patients that have cholesterol of 600. They're the healthiest people, never been sick. Staten drugs are the most dangerous, useless drugs ever invented. And please remember your brain is built from cholesterol. 92 to 99% of the brain is built from cholesterol. The brain shrinks first. With every statin drug, you start shrinking your brain. And this is what people need to understand.
Looked up, what are the names of some of these. List of statin drugs for lowering cholesterol. Then I see "Lipitor". Familiar with that. I worked in a pharmaceutical warehouse for a decade. That's where all the pharmacies in the city would get their stuff from. Lipitor looks like it's made by Pfizer.
"Atorvastatin, sold under the brand name Lipitor among others, is a statin medication used to prevent cardiovascular disease in those at high risk and to treat abnormal lipid levels. For the prevention of cardiovascular disease, statins are a first-line treatment in reducing cholesterol"
So they're trying to stop people from having clogged arteries?
"Atorvastatin (Lipitor): This is a widely prescribed statin known for its effectiveness in lowering LDL ("bad") cholesterol and triglycerides, while also slightly increasing HDL ("good") cholesterol."
Meanwhile, this doctor in the video here is sounding like it's all a bunch of hogwash. The people who have these problems where they're worried about clogged arteries, are probably fat, eh. Like whoever you'd see while shopping in the supermarket.
Never did a transcribe video to text on this.. here's what it said:
One of the things that I learned from whistleblowers from the cabal itself is that they have to work within something they call the rules, and this is very, very important. The rules are a body of spiritual principles that they must follow in order to be allowed to exist. Now what do I mean by allowed to exist? I mean that they are aware that there are benevolent forces that will prevent them from achieving their goals unless we give them permission. To enslave us. Ultimately the universe is intelligent, alive, and conscious, and it is benevolent. It is a benevolent consciousness. That consciousness does not allow the negative to succeed unless it is invited. So the cabal has made a science, a very elaborate science, out of studying these arcane occult magical principles that allow them to get away with what they do. So they have to put out everything that tells you who they are in music videos, in these Super Bowl halftime shows, the Grammy Awards ceremonies. They're out there showing you the truth. This is what people are going to have so much trouble with once disclosure happens is that these people actually practice black magic and they are very, very good at it.
how did Jeffrey Epstein get his money.. was he doing hedge funds?
Jeffrey Epstein's financial dealings were complex and often shrouded in secrecy, but his primary source of wealth was not a typical "hedge fund" in the widely understood sense. Instead, his fortune largely derived from managing money for extremely wealthy individuals, particularly billionaire Leslie Wexner, the founder of L Brands (Victoria's Secret, etc.).
Here's a breakdown of how he accumulated his wealth:
Early Career: Epstein started his career on Wall Street at Bear Stearns in the late 1970s, where he quickly moved up as an options trader and advised wealthy clients on tax mitigation strategies. He left in 1981 to start his own consulting company.
Exclusive Money Management: In 1988, he formed J. Epstein and Company (later Financial Trust Company, operating out of the U.S. Virgin Islands). He claimed to manage money exclusively for billionaires, though the details of his operations and most of his clients were kept secret. His most prominent and well-documented client was Leslie Wexner, for whom he managed a substantial portion of his wealth for about two decades. This relationship was incredibly lucrative for Epstein.
Fees and Investments: Epstein reportedly charged significant fees for his tax and estate planning services. While he didn't operate a traditional public hedge fund, he made investments. For example, it was revealed after his death that he had invested a significant amount (around $40 million) in Peter Thiel's Valar Ventures, a venture capital firm, which had grown substantially by the time of his estate's assessment. This shows he was involved in private investments, similar to how wealthy individuals might allocate capital to various investment vehicles, including venture capital.
Lack of Transparency: A key characteristic of Epstein's financial activities was their extreme lack of transparency. Unlike regulated hedge funds that have reporting requirements (even if limited to accredited investors), his private money management firm operated with very little public oversight. This opacity made it difficult for outsiders to understand the exact nature of his strategies or the source of all his funds.
Was he doing hedge funds?
While he managed money for ultra-wealthy individuals, which is a characteristic of hedge funds, his operations weren't typically structured as a "hedge fund" that pooled capital from multiple accredited investors and openly marketed itself as such. He essentially acted as a private money manager for a very select, exclusive group of clients, primarily Wexner. Some reports mention "hedge fund manager" in descriptions of him, but this is likely a simplified label for a financier who dealt with high-net-worth individuals and employed sophisticated investment strategies, rather than indicating he ran a widely recognized hedge fund firm. His firm was more of a bespoke wealth management operation for a very small, secretive client base.
His wealth came from managing vast sums for the ultra-rich, which involved investment decisions and financial strategies, but it wasn't the kind of institutional hedge fund operation that typically solicits external capital from a broader pool of accredited investors under a formal hedge fund structure.
oh, so he was doing like "Private equity"?
That's a good question, and it highlights the nuances in financial terminology. While Jeffrey Epstein's activities had some overlap with aspects of private equity, it's not the most accurate or complete description of how he primarily made his fortune.
Here's why and how it relates to what he did:
What is Private Equity (PE)?
Private equity firms typically:
Pool capital from a variety of institutional investors (pension funds, endowments, sovereign wealth funds) and high-net-worth individuals into dedicated funds.
Acquire significant or controlling stakes in private companies (or take public companies private).
Actively manage and improve the operations of these companies over a period of several years (typically 3-10 years).
Seek to sell these improved companies for a substantial profit (through another sale, an IPO, etc.) and return capital to their investors.
Common strategies include leveraged buyouts (LBOs), where a lot of borrowed money is used to buy a company, or venture capital, which is a type of PE focused on early-stage, high-growth companies.
How Epstein's Activities Differed from Typical Private Equity:
Client Focus: While private equity firms raise money from wealthy individuals, they typically create funds that invest in companies. Epstein's primary model was more akin to a private money manager or family office manager for a very select few ultra-wealthy individuals (most notably Leslie Wexner). He was managing their personal liquid assets and financial affairs, not primarily buying and operating entire companies with a pooled fund structure.
Active Management of Companies: The hallmark of private equity is actively improving the operations of the companies they acquire. There's no widespread evidence that Epstein was consistently acquiring and operating a portfolio of private companies in this manner. His expertise was more in financial structuring, tax avoidance, and investment management for his clients' existing wealth.
Transparency and Structure: Private equity funds, while "private," still have a more defined legal and regulatory structure, including reporting to their limited partners (investors). Epstein's operations were characterized by extreme secrecy and an almost singular focus on discretion for his clients, operating outside the more formalized structures of typical PE firms.
Where there might be overlap or similar activities:
Investment in private companies: As mentioned, Epstein did make some investments in private companies, like his $40 million investment in Peter Thiel's Valar Ventures (a venture capital firm, which is a subset of private equity). So he participated in private equity-style investments, but it wasn't his core business model for wealth generation.
High-net-worth client base: Both private equity funds and Epstein's wealth management services cater to high-net-worth individuals due to the capital requirements and risk profiles.
Focus on high returns: Both aim for significant returns, often through less liquid or more complex strategies than public market investing.
Conclusion:
It's more accurate to say that Jeffrey Epstein was a private wealth manager or financial advisor to a very small, exclusive group of billionaires, rather than a "private equity firm." While he may have engaged in some private equity investments as part of managing his clients' portfolios, his core business wasn't about raising large funds to buy, improve, and sell private companies in the way traditional private equity firms do. His wealth was derived from the fees he charged for his highly secretive and specialized financial and tax advisory services to these ultra-rich individuals.
Yesterday I asked:
What is a hedge fund
It said:
"A hedge fund is a private investment partnership that uses aggressive investment strategies to generate high returns for it's investors, typically wealthy individuals and institutional investors. Unlike mutual funds, hedge funds have more flexibility in their investment strategies, including the use of leverage, short-selling, and derivatives. They are generally only available to accredited investors and not as heavily regulated as other investment funds".
I have it at the bottom of the screenshot of yesterday's post about "The richest.. they never sell all the company stock because it would bankrupt it. So where the hell are they getting their money from. Sometimes they sell a bit with this "10b5-1 plan in the U.S." but that isn't what gets their shit going. It's always this borrowing money and they never have cash."
Today I asked the same thing..
What is a hedge fund
It said:
"A hedge fund is a private investment partnership that pools capital from institutional and accredited investors to invest in a variety of financial assets, often using sophisticated and sometimes risky strategies to generate high returns. Unlike mutual funds, hedge funds have more flexibility in their investment strategies and are less regulated, making them attractive to investors seeking potentially higher returns but also willing to accept higher risks."
How come it changed it from what it said just yesterday, to the same thing in google. What's different here with what it said before, and today.
Anyways.. Isn't this "hedge fund" thing, where they can crap out and you can lose a whole bunch. That's why they want you to have a lot extra so you're not "fucked" by dumping too much of your net worth into this risky stuff.
So what exactly are these guys doing.. what are those "sophisticated and risky strategies". That response yesterday it talked about "hedge funds have more flexibility in their investment strategies, including the use of leverage, short-selling, and derivatives". But in the response today.. it didn't talk about those tactics.
What is "use of leverage". What is "short-selling". Then.. "derivatives". Isn't that what caused the whole 2008 housing crash. lol.
And what are they doing these days, with the price of houses being high.. where.. normal people, the "middle class", they can't afford too much more on a house. And having kids costs too much.. So these money mangement guys can't use the same tactics they did, depending on what's going on out there. What are they doing these days?
I inputted that in google gemini AI. Here's what it said.
You've asked some great questions about hedge funds and their strategies! Let's break down the differences in the definitions, the risks involved, and what those "sophisticated strategies" actually mean.
First, regarding the slight changes in the definition of "hedge fund" between yesterday and today:
Subtle Refinements: The core definition remains the same: a private investment partnership for wealthy and institutional investors, using flexible strategies for high returns. The differences you noted are more about word choice and emphasis.
Yesterday's mentioned "aggressive investment strategies" and "typically wealthy individuals and institutional investors."
Today's used "pools capital from institutional and accredited investors" and "often using sophisticated and sometimes risky strategies."
Consistency in Core Concepts: Both definitions correctly highlight the key characteristics: private, for accredited/wealthy investors, flexible strategies, less regulation than mutual funds, and aiming for high returns. The core message is consistent. It's common for AI models, even when given the same prompt, to generate slightly different wording or choose to emphasize different aspects of a concept, especially if the underlying model has been updated or if there are minor variations in the information it draws upon. Think of it like two different financial journalists explaining the same concept; they might use slightly different phrasing but convey the same essential information.
You are absolutely right about the risks associated with hedge funds. The very flexibility that allows them to pursue high returns also exposes them to significant potential losses. This is precisely why they are generally only available to "accredited investors" – individuals or entities with a high net worth and financial sophistication who are presumed to be able to understand and bear these risks. The idea is that they can afford to "lose a whole bunch" without it catastrophically impacting their overall financial well-being, as opposed to someone who might be "fucked" by putting too much of their limited net worth into such risky ventures.
Now, let's delve into those "sophisticated and risky strategies":
The reason the initial responses might not explicitly list the strategies every time is that the core definition focuses on what a hedge fund is, not necessarily how it operates in detail. However, the strategies you mentioned from yesterday's response – leverage, short-selling, and derivatives – are indeed key tools used by many hedge funds.
Use of Leverage:
What it is: Leverage means using borrowed money to increase the potential return of an investment. It's like borrowing money to buy more of something than you could afford with just your own cash.
How it works: If a hedge fund has $100 million in capital, they might borrow another $100 million (or more) to invest $200 million. If their investments go up by 10%, they've made $20 million on their $100 million initial capital, effectively doubling their return compared to if they hadn't used leverage.
The Risk: Leverage amplifies both gains and losses. If that $200 million investment goes down by 10%, the fund loses $20 million. On their initial $100 million, that's a 20% loss. If losses exceed the initial capital, the fund can be wiped out or even owe more than they initially invested. This is a primary reason for the "crap out" potential you mentioned.
Short-Selling:
What it is: Short-selling is a strategy where an investor profits from a decline in a stock's price.
How it works: The investor borrows shares of a stock they believe will fall in value and sells them immediately. They then wait for the price to drop, buy the shares back at the lower price, and return them to the lender. The profit is the difference between the price they sold them for and the price they bought them back for, minus any fees.
The Risk: The risk is theoretically unlimited. If the stock price goes up instead of down, the short-seller still has to buy the shares back to return them, potentially at a much higher price. There's no cap on how high a stock price can go.
Derivatives:
What they are: Derivatives are financial contracts whose value is derived from an underlying asset, group of assets, or benchmark. Common examples include options, futures, forwards, and swaps. These underlying assets can be stocks, bonds, commodities (like oil or gold), currencies, interest rates, or even market indexes.
How they are used: Hedge funds use derivatives for various purposes:
Hedging: To reduce risk (e.g., buying an option to protect against a stock price decline).
Speculation: To bet on the future direction of an asset's price (e.g., buying a call option if they believe a stock will rise significantly).
Arbitrage: To profit from small price discrepancies between related assets or markets.
The Risk: Derivatives can be incredibly complex and their value can change rapidly, often magnified by leverage. Their complexity can make it difficult to accurately assess their risk, and unexpected market movements can lead to substantial losses.
Wasn't that what caused the whole 2008 housing crash? lol.
You are absolutely right that derivatives played a significant role in the 2008 financial crisis, specifically certain types of mortgage-backed securities (MBS) and credit default swaps (CDS).
Mortgage-Backed Securities (MBS): These are financial instruments created by pooling together thousands of individual residential mortgages. Investors then buy shares in these pools, receiving payments from the underlying mortgage principal and interest. The problem was that many of these MBS were packed with "subprime" mortgages given to borrowers with poor credit, making them very risky.
Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs): These were even more complex derivatives that bundled together different tranches (slices) of MBS, along with other assets. The idea was to diversify risk, but in reality, when the underlying subprime mortgages started defaulting en masse, the entire structure collapsed.
Credit Default Swaps (CDS): These were essentially insurance contracts against the default of debt instruments, including MBS and CDOs. They allowed investors to bet against the housing market or to "insure" their holdings. When the housing market collapsed, the issuers of these CDS (like AIG) faced massive payouts they couldn't cover, leading to systemic risk.
So yes, the intricate and often opaque nature of these derivatives, combined with excessive leverage and a lack of proper regulation and risk assessment, directly contributed to the severity of the 2008 financial crisis.
What are they doing these days, with the price of houses being high... So these money management guys can't use the same tactics they did, depending on what's going on out there. What are they doing these days?
You're correct that investment strategies adapt to market conditions. While the core tools (leverage, shorting, derivatives) remain, how they are applied changes. Hedge funds are highly adaptive and look for opportunities across all asset classes and market conditions. Here's a general overview of what some might be doing given current market dynamics (high house prices, inflation concerns, interest rate changes, etc.):
Macro Strategies: These funds make bets on broad economic trends, such as interest rate movements, currency fluctuations, or commodity prices. Given current inflation concerns and central bank actions, macro funds might be very active. They could be betting on certain currencies to strengthen or weaken, or on the direction of bond yields.
Relative Value Strategies: These involve exploiting mispricings between closely related securities. For example, if two companies in the same sector are performing similarly, but one stock is trading at a significantly lower valuation, a hedge fund might go long (buy) the undervalued one and short (sell) the overvalued one. This strategy aims to profit from the convergence of their prices, regardless of overall market direction.
Event-Driven Strategies: These funds invest in companies undergoing significant corporate events like mergers, acquisitions, bankruptcies, or spin-offs. For example, a hedge fund might buy shares of a company being acquired (merger arbitrage) expecting the stock price to rise to the acquisition price.
Long/Short Equity Strategies: This is a very common strategy where funds take long positions in stocks they believe will increase in value and short positions in stocks they believe will decrease. The goal is to generate returns regardless of whether the overall market goes up or down, as long as their chosen long positions outperform their short positions.
Quantitative Strategies (Quant Funds): These funds use complex algorithms and mathematical models to identify trading opportunities. They often execute high-frequency trades based on statistical arbitrage or other patterns. This often involves looking for very short-term mispricings across various assets.
Real Estate and REITs: While direct residential property flipping might not be a primary hedge fund strategy due to scale, some hedge funds might invest in real estate through publicly traded Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) or other structured products, betting on the performance of commercial or residential real estate markets. They might also be involved in distressed real estate debt if there are opportunities.
Private Credit: With banks sometimes pulling back from certain types of lending, hedge funds are increasingly involved in private credit, lending directly to companies. This can offer higher interest rates and is less correlated with public markets.
Venture Capital/Private Equity Crossover: Some hedge funds are blurring the lines with venture capital and private equity, investing in private companies before they go public, seeking higher growth potential.
Regarding housing specifically:
Securitization is still around, but more regulated: While the complex derivatives that amplified the 2008 crisis are still used, regulations like Dodd-Frank in the US have aimed to make the market more transparent and reduce excessive risk-taking, particularly in the mortgage-backed securities space.
Focus on niche areas: Instead of mass subprime lending, funds might look at specific segments of the housing market (e.g., luxury properties, build-to-rent communities, student housing, distressed properties in specific areas) or invest in companies that support the housing industry (e.g., construction materials, smart home technology).
Inflation hedge: Some might view real estate as a hedge against inflation, so they might have long-term positions in real estate-related assets, though likely not through strategies that rely on individual home price appreciation in the same way individual homeowners hope for.
In essence, hedge funds are always looking for inefficiencies, mispricings, and trends to exploit, regardless of the asset class. Their strategies are dynamic and constantly evolve with the market landscape. The common thread is their ability to use a wider range of tools, including leverage and short-selling, than traditional mutual funds, giving them the flexibility to pursue returns in both rising and falling markets, but with commensurate risk.
Let's say I dump 100k into blackrock. lol.
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let's say you give 100k to blackrock.. what the hell are they gonna do with it.. and how long after would you make a profit and how much could you take out then. I guess.. give it a few years, eh.. and maybe you can get 1000
BlackRock is one of the world's largest asset managers, and they offer a wide range of investment products for individuals, from mutual funds and Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs) to more tailored solutions for high-net-worth clients.
Here's a breakdown of what they might do with $100,000 and what you could expect:
What BlackRock would do with $100,000:
Invest it in a fund: For $100,000, you would likely be investing in one of their various funds, such as:
ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds): These are baskets of securities (stocks, bonds, etc.) that trade on stock exchanges like individual stocks. BlackRock is well-known for its iShares ETFs, which cover a vast array of markets, sectors, and asset classes. They have ETFs with low minimums (even less than $100) and lower management fees.
Mutual Funds: These are professionally managed portfolios of stocks, bonds, or other investments. They often have higher minimum investments (e.g., $1,000 or more) and can have various fee structures, including sales charges (loads) and ongoing management fees.
Multi-Asset Funds: These funds invest across different asset classes (like stocks and bonds) to provide diversification and potentially specific risk/return profiles. An example is their Global Allocation Fund.
Diversify: BlackRock emphasizes diversification. They would likely invest your money across various assets and sectors to help mitigate risk. Their strategies often involve a mix of equities (stocks), fixed income (bonds), and potentially alternative investments.
Manage based on your goals: When you invest with BlackRock, whether directly or through a financial advisor, they would assess your financial goals, risk tolerance, and time horizon to recommend appropriate funds or strategies.
How long until you make a profit and how much could you take out?
This is where it gets tricky, as no one can guarantee profits or specific returns in investing. Here's what influences it:
Market Performance: The biggest factor is how the underlying investments perform. If the stock market has a strong bull run, your investment could grow significantly. If there's a downturn, you could see losses.
Fund Performance: Each fund has its own investment objectives and performance history. Some funds are more aggressive, aiming for higher returns with higher risk, while others are more conservative.
Fees: BlackRock, like any investment firm, charges fees. These can include:
Management Fees: An annual percentage of the assets you have invested.
Sales Charges (Loads): For some mutual funds, you might pay an upfront fee when you buy shares (front-end load) or a fee when you sell them (back-end load/CDSC). ETFs generally don't have sales charges, but you pay trading commissions to your broker.
Other Expenses: Fund operating expenses. These fees will reduce your overall returns.
Time Horizon: Investing is generally a long-term game. While you might see small fluctuations daily, significant profits usually take years to materialize. A "few years" is a reasonable timeframe to start seeing meaningful growth, but short-term results are unpredictable.
Withdrawals: You can typically take out money from your investment whenever you need it, but there might be fees or tax implications:
Redemption Fees: Some funds might charge a short-term redemption fee if you sell shares too soon after buying them.
Tax Implications: Profits (capital gains) from your investments are subject to taxes, as are dividends or interest payments. The tax implications depend on your individual tax situation and the type of account you hold (e.g., registered vs. non-registered).
Regarding your thought of getting "$1000" after a few years:
If you mean turning $100,000 into $1,000 of profit, that would be an incredibly low return (1% over several years, or much less per year). While it's impossible to predict exact returns, a healthy long-term investment in a diversified portfolio would generally aim for more than that over several years, although there are no guarantees.
For example, the S&P 500 (a broad market index) has historically averaged around 10% per year over the long term, though past performance is not indicative of future results. Even with a conservative investment, a 1% profit on $100,000 over "a few years" would be quite low.
In summary:
If you give $100,000 to BlackRock, they will invest it in a diversified portfolio of funds aligned with your financial goals and risk tolerance. The time it takes to see a profit and the amount of profit you could make are highly dependent on market conditions, the specific funds you choose, and the fees involved. It's crucial to understand that all investments carry risk, and there are no guarantees of returns.
It's highly recommended to consult with a financial advisor who can help you understand your options, assess your risk tolerance, and develop an investment plan tailored to your specific situation. They can also explain the fees and potential returns of various BlackRock products.
has anybody talked about putting money into blackrock and how long it took to get some back
It's common for people to talk about investing with large asset managers like BlackRock, and for good reason: they manage trillions of dollars for individuals and institutions globally. However, when it comes to "how long it took to get some back" or "profit timelines," it's crucial to understand that investing is highly individualized and performance is never guaranteed.
Here's why you won't find a simple answer like "X months to make Y profit" when discussing personal experiences with BlackRock investments:
Variety of Investments: BlackRock offers thousands of different investment products, including:
ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds): These are popular for their diversification and low costs. Their performance depends on the underlying assets (e.g., stocks, bonds, commodities) they track.
Mutual Funds: Actively managed funds with various strategies (growth, value, income, etc.) and risk levels.
Index Funds: Designed to mirror the performance of a specific market index (like the S&P 500).
Target Date Funds: Designed for retirement, these automatically adjust their asset allocation over time.
Alternative Investments: For larger investors, they may offer access to private equity, real estate, and other less liquid assets.
Each of these has a different risk profile and potential for returns, meaning the timeline to profit will vary immensely.
Market Conditions: The broader market environment plays a huge role. If you invested in a stock-heavy fund right before a bull market, you'd likely see profits much sooner and larger than if you invested before a bear market. BlackRock, like any firm, cannot control market fluctuations. They provide insights and strategies to navigate them, but ultimately, market performance dictates a significant portion of your return.
Individual Goals and Risk Tolerance: A conservative investor might be happy with steady, single-digit annual returns over many years, while an aggressive investor might seek higher, but riskier, double-digit returns. The "profit" they expect and the timeline for it will be different.
Time Horizon: As mentioned before, investing is generally a long-term endeavor. While you might see daily or weekly fluctuations, "making a profit" in a meaningful sense usually requires letting your money grow over several years (e.g., 5, 10, or even 20+ years). Short-term investing carries higher risk and less predictable outcomes.
Fees: All investment products have fees (management fees, expense ratios, sometimes trading costs or sales loads). These fees eat into your returns, so two investors with similar gross returns might have different net profits after fees.
What you will find in discussions about BlackRock:
Fund Performance Data: BlackRock, like all fund providers, publishes historical performance data for its funds (e.g., 1-year, 3-year, 5-year, 10-year, and since inception returns). This gives an indication of how the fund has performed in the past, but it's not a predictor of future results.
Discussions of their ETFs (iShares): Many individual investors discuss iShares ETFs on financial forums (like Reddit's r/CanadianInvestor or r/investing) or in financial blogs. These discussions often revolve around specific ETFs, their historical performance, expense ratios, and how they fit into different portfolios. You might see people sharing their experiences, but these are anecdotal and not representative of guaranteed outcomes.
BlackRock's overall AUM growth: BlackRock frequently reports on its "Assets Under Management" (AUM) and net inflows, which reflect how much money clients are entrusting to them. This indicates confidence in their ability to manage investments, but doesn't translate directly to individual profit timelines.
In essence: Nobody can definitively tell you how long it will take you to get a specific amount of profit back from investing with BlackRock. It depends on which fund you choose, when you invest, how the markets perform, and how long you stay invested. For individual investors, the typical advice is to have a long-term outlook (multiple years) and to understand that market fluctuations are normal.
they must be able to do something.. like what kind of numbers are we talking about here.. you're not gonna double your money.. I'll tell ya that. So it'd take like what.. 10 years to double your 100k?
You're hitting on a very important point about investing: it's not about guaranteed doubling of money in a fixed timeframe, and it's certainly not about quick riches. Your intuition that "you're not gonna double your money" in a very short period is generally correct for traditional, diversified investments.
Let's break down the "what kind of numbers are we talking about here" and the 10-year doubling question using real-world historical data and investment principles:
- Realistic Returns and Doubling Your Money (The "Rule of 72")
You're right to question rapid doubling. The pace at which your money grows depends entirely on the annual rate of return you achieve. A common rule of thumb in finance is the "Rule of 72". It states that to estimate the number of years it takes for an investment to double, you divide 72 by the annual rate of return.
If you expect a 7% annual return, it would take approximately 10.3 years to double your money ($72 / 7 = 10.28). So, your guess of "10 years to double your 100k" with a 7% return is very close to accurate!
If you expect a 10% annual return, it would take about 7.2 years to double your money ($72 / 10 = 7.2).
- What are "Typical" Investment Returns?
This is where the diversity of BlackRock's offerings comes in. BlackRock's performance is the sum of the performance of its thousands of underlying funds.
Broad Market Indexes (like the S&P 500): These are often used as benchmarks for long-term stock market returns. Historically, the S&P 500 (a broad index of 500 large U.S. companies) has averaged roughly 8-10% per year over very long periods (e.g., several decades), before inflation.
For example, over the past 10 years (2014-2024), the S&P 500 has averaged around 11-11.3% annually.
Over the past 20 years (2004-2024), it's been closer to 8.5-8.9% annually.
Over the past 30 years (1994-2024), it's been around 9-9.3% annually.
Inflation-Adjusted Returns (Real Returns): It's important to consider inflation. If the market returns 10% but inflation is 3%, your "real" return (what your purchasing power actually gained) is closer to 7%. Historically, real returns on diversified stock portfolios might be in the 5-7% range.
Bonds: Generally offer lower returns than stocks but also lower volatility. A diversified bond fund might yield 2-5% annually, depending on interest rates and bond types.
Balanced Funds: Many people invest in "balanced" portfolios or funds (like BlackRock's iShares Core Balanced ETF Portfolio - XBAL in Canada) that hold a mix of stocks and bonds. These aim for a more moderate return with less volatility than an all-stock portfolio. Looking at specific BlackRock Canadian ETFs as of May 31, 2025:
XGRO (iShares Core Growth ETF Portfolio): Has an inception date in 2007, and has delivered an average annual return of 5.19% since inception, with 10.84% over the last 5 years and 13.78% over the last 1 year. This ETF is more heavily weighted to equities.
XBAL (iShares Core Balanced ETF Portfolio): Also with a 2007 inception, it has delivered 5.62% since inception, with 8.13% over the last 5 years and 11.87% over the last 1 year. This is a mix of stocks and bonds.
- "They must be able to do something..."
BlackRock's primary role is asset management, not guaranteeing returns. What they "do" is:
Offer diversified products: They create and manage a vast array of ETFs and mutual funds that allow investors to easily get exposure to different parts of the market (e.g., U.S. stocks, international bonds, specific sectors, etc.).
Manage risk: Through diversification within funds and by offering funds with different risk profiles (e.g., aggressive growth funds vs. conservative bond funds), they help investors align their investments with their risk tolerance.
Lower costs (especially with ETFs): Many of their iShares ETFs are very low-cost, meaning more of your returns stay in your pocket rather than going to fees. For example, the iShares Core S&P 500 ETF (IVV) has an expense ratio of just 0.03%.
Provide expertise and research: They have teams of analysts and portfolio managers who conduct research and make investment decisions for their actively managed funds.
Provide access: They allow individual investors to easily access broad market exposure or specific investment themes that might otherwise be difficult or expensive to achieve on their own.
In summary:
You're correct that expecting to "double your money" quickly with a traditional, diversified investment like those offered by BlackRock is unrealistic. However, with a long-term perspective, an investment of $100,000 into a well-diversified portfolio that tracks the broader market (like an S&P 500 index ETF or a balanced portfolio) could realistically aim for average annual returns in the range of 6-10% over the long run.
At a 7% average annual return, your $100,000 would indeed take approximately 10 years to double to $200,000. It's a testament to the power of compounding over time, not a reflection of a short-term jackpot.
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"This is a static list of 599 additives that could be added to tobacco cigarettes in 1994."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_additives_in_cigarettes
So these guys start moving towards the food industry, in the 80's after cigarettes begin to get phased out. Don't worry though, they'll "behave" with the food, compared to what they were doing with cigarettes.