[Part 3] Out of text room in that previous comment.
wondering what the deal is with this here.. the ark with the blood going down on it.. who put that there.. those angels I guess.. and what happens once you get the blood on it..
Ron Wyatt's accounts are largely based on his personal experiences and interpretations, which often included supernatural elements. When it comes to the Ark and the blood, his narrative went something like this:
Who put the Ark there?
According to Wyatt's claims, the Ark of the Covenant, along with other Temple treasures, was hidden in the chamber under Golgotha by the prophet Jeremiah just before the Babylonian invasion of Jerusalem in 586 BC. This was supposedly done to protect these sacred items from desecration by the Babylonians. He believed Jeremiah hid them in this specific location, anticipating the future crucifixion site and its significance.
Were angels involved?
Yes, in Wyatt's story, angels played a significant role. He claimed that after he initially found the Ark chamber, angels appeared to him. These angels supposedly instructed him on what he could and could not do, and when the Ark would be revealed to the world. He even claimed that the angels told him not to reveal the discovery immediately, and that this was why he couldn't show conclusive photographic evidence.
What happens once you get the blood on it (according to his theory)?
For Ron Wyatt, the moment Jesus' blood flowed down through the earthquake crack and landed on the Mercy Seat of the Ark was the ultimate fulfillment of prophecy and the central act of atonement. His interpretation tied together several key theological concepts:
Ultimate Atonement: In the Old Testament, the high priest would sprinkle animal blood on the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) to atone for the sins of the people. Wyatt believed that Jesus' blood, being the perfect and final sacrifice, directly on the actual Mercy Seat, symbolized the ultimate and complete atonement for the sins of humanity. It was the "blood of the New Covenant" literally applying itself to the symbol of God's grace and forgiveness.
Proof of Christ's Divinity and Virgin Birth: As mentioned previously, the alleged genetic analysis of the blood (with only 24 chromosomes – 23 from the mother, 1 Y from a "non-human source") was presented by Wyatt as scientific proof of Jesus' divine fatherhood and the virgin birth. For him, this was tangible evidence that Jesus was indeed the Son of God, not merely a human.
Fulfillment of Prophecy: The entire scenario, from the Ark being hidden in that specific location to the blood dripping onto it at the moment of crucifixion, was seen by Wyatt as a divinely orchestrated event, fulfilling ancient prophecies and demonstrating God's meticulous plan for salvation.
Future Revelation and End Times Significance: Wyatt and his followers believed that the Ark of the Covenant, with the dried blood on it, would be revealed to the world at a specific time in the future, possibly tied to significant end-times events. The idea was that this undeniable evidence would lead many to believe and play a role in final spiritual awakenings.
Again, it is crucial to reiterate that these claims are entirely from Ron Wyatt's narrative and are not accepted by mainstream archaeological, scientific, or theological communities. There is no credible evidence to support his claims of finding the Ark, the specific location, the blood, or the miraculous genetic findings.
ok so the ark was down there in BC.. before Jesus died and they happened to crucify him in the same spot, up top?
Yes, that's precisely the central and most dramatic claim in Ron Wyatt's narrative:
According to him, the Ark of the Covenant and other sacred Temple artifacts were indeed hidden in an underground chamber in Jerusalem around 586 BC by the prophet Jeremiah, specifically to protect them from the invading Babylonian army that was about to destroy Solomon's Temple.
Then, incredibly, Wyatt claimed that the spot where Jesus Christ was crucified around AD 30 (roughly 600 years later) was directly above this very chamber. He specifically identified a crack in the rock at the crucifixion site that he believed extended down through the bedrock, twenty feet, into the chamber where the Ark was located.
The pivotal moment in his story is that when Jesus died on the cross, and the Bible states there was an earthquake that "split the rocks" (Matthew 27:51), this earthquake caused the crack in the bedrock directly under the cross to extend all the way down to the chamber. Furthermore, when the Roman soldier pierced Jesus' side with a spear, blood and water flowed out, down the cross, into this crack, and then supposedly directly onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, which was housed in a stone case below.
This alignment of events, according to Wyatt, was not a coincidence but a divinely orchestrated fulfillment of the Old Testament sacrificial system, with Jesus' blood being the ultimate atonement.
Again, while this is a fascinating and dramatic story, it's crucial to remember that these are Ron Wyatt's specific claims, and they are not supported by any independent archaeological or scholarly evidence. The professional consensus is that his claims are unsubstantiated.
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Watching that 1hr excavation video.. up to 19min.. The lady who's filming.. is showing where they're digging.
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rock of golgotha location in jerusalem, gps coordinates?
There is no single, universally agreed-upon "Rock of Golgotha" with precise, definitive GPS coordinates that are accepted by all scholars and archaeologists. The exact location of Jesus' crucifixion is a matter of ongoing debate and has two primary traditional sites in Jerusalem:
Church of the Holy Sepulchre:
This is the most widely accepted traditional site, dating back to the 4th century CE when Emperor Constantine's mother, Helena, identified it. It's located within the Old City of Jerusalem today. The specific rock face believed to be Golgotha is encased within the church.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Church of the Holy Sepulchre:
31°46′42.5″N, 35°13′45.92″E (This refers to a camera location within the Church, so it's a good approximation of the general area).
Note on Location: While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is inside the modern Old City walls, archaeological evidence suggests that during the time of Jesus, this area would have been outside the city walls, which is consistent with biblical accounts that state Jesus was crucified outside the city gate.
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary):
This site, just north of the Damascus Gate outside the Old City walls, became a popular alternative in the 19th century, particularly among Protestants. It features a skull-like rock formation and a nearby ancient tomb, leading some to believe it's the true Golgotha and burial site.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Garden Tomb:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
Ron Wyatt's claims (which we've discussed extensively) primarily focused on the area around the Garden Tomb, or specifically, the "Skull Hill" formation associated with it, where he claimed to have found the Ark of the Covenant underneath.
It's important to understand that:
Neither of these sites has absolute, undeniable archaeological proof to be the exact spot, but they are the two main contenders based on tradition, historical accounts, and some archaeological interpretation.
The "rock of Golgotha" itself refers to the rocky outcrop or hill where the crucifixion took place, rather than a single, distinct, portable rock.
where was whyatt digging.. neither of those places or was it the garden tomb
Ron Wyatt primarily focused his excavation efforts in the area of the Garden Tomb in Jerusalem. This site is located just north of the Damascus Gate, outside the Old City walls, and is considered by some Protestants as an alternative, more visually convincing location for Golgotha and Jesus' burial.
While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the most widely accepted traditional site for the crucifixion and burial, Wyatt's claims and activities were centered on the Garden Tomb and the adjacent "Skull Hill" formation. He claimed that the Ark of the Covenant was hidden in a chamber beneath this particular area, directly under where he believed Jesus was crucified. The Garden Tomb Association has explicitly refuted Wyatt's claims of discovery within their grounds, though they did allow him to dig there on several occasions.
what's the gps for this skull hill
The "Skull Hill" (also known as Gordon's Calvary) is the rocky escarpment associated with the Garden Tomb. The approximate GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb, which encompasses this area, are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary) skull face gps location
The "Skull Hill" or Gordon's Calvary, which is the rocky escarpment with a skull-like appearance, is located within the broader area of the Garden Tomb. Therefore, the GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb serve as the most precise publicly available coordinates for this feature.
The approximate GPS coordinates for the "skull face" at the Garden Tomb are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
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It keeps saying the same numbers.. I'm looking at it in google earth. You got the garden tomb. Looked up what they meant by skull face. There's a couple eye holes in the wall and it looks like eyes. At 19min they show where they're digging.
These guys are fucking crazy the way that shit could cave in, 40 feet of stuff above and not much room. They can't use a jackhammer cause they had a cave-in. lol. So they're slowly hauling buckets outta there. No fucking permit either, eh. Like who would go there, do that these days.. This was the 80's though. Wouldn't cops show up? You try that shit here.. no way.. you know what I mean.
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wyatt didn't haul the ark out of there because the angels.. so wyatt closed up the tunnel?
You've hit upon a key element of Ron Wyatt's narrative about the Ark of the Covenant!
Yes, according to Ron Wyatt's accounts, he did not haul the Ark out of the chamber. His explanation for this was directly tied to supernatural intervention, specifically the presence and instructions of angels.
Wyatt claimed that on his fourth visit to the chamber where the Ark was located (after initially "discovering" it in 1982), four angels appeared to him. These angels allegedly:
Instructed him not to remove the Ark: They told him that the Ark and the tablets of the Ten Commandments (which he claimed to have seen within the Ark) were to remain hidden until a divinely appointed time, linked to future "end-time events" or the "Mark of the Beast" being enforced. The idea was that the Ark would serve as a powerful witness to the world at a crucial moment in history.
Guided his actions: Wyatt stated that he was unable to move or take clear photographs of the Ark unless the angels instructed him to. He claimed that attempts to photograph it resulted in blurred or unusable images, which he later understood was a divine prohibition against immediate revelation. He did claim to have filmed the Ten Commandments tablets as instructed by the angels.
After these encounters, Wyatt reported that he closed up the tunnel and the access to the chamber. This was his justification for why he could not provide verifiable evidence or allow other archaeologists to inspect his "discovery." He maintained that he was simply following divine instructions.
This element of his story, like all his other claims, is not supported by any independent evidence and is a major reason why professional archaeologists and scholars dismiss his discoveries as unsubstantiated.
so that ark would still be there
According to Ron Wyatt's claims, yes, the Ark of the Covenant would still be there in the chamber under Skull Hill (Garden Tomb area) in Jerusalem.
His consistent narrative was that he was instructed by angels not to remove the Ark or reveal its exact location to the world until a divinely appointed time. He maintained that he resealed the entrance to the chamber after his visits, leaving the Ark in its supposed resting place, untouched by human hands since ancient times.
It's important to remember, as we've discussed, that these are unsubstantiated claims made by Ron Wyatt. No professional archaeologist, scholar, or scientific body has ever confirmed his discovery or the existence of the Ark in that location. The general consensus among experts is that his claims are fraudulent or a result of misinterpretation, and there is no credible evidence that the Ark of the Covenant is currently located under Jerusalem or anywhere else that Wyatt claimed.
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ok so this is pretty crazy here.. cause technically, you could go dig out his shit and the ark is still there.
[Part 3] Out of text room in that previous comment.
wondering what the deal is with this here.. the ark with the blood going down on it.. who put that there.. those angels I guess.. and what happens once you get the blood on it..
Ron Wyatt's accounts are largely based on his personal experiences and interpretations, which often included supernatural elements. When it comes to the Ark and the blood, his narrative went something like this:
Who put the Ark there?
According to Wyatt's claims, the Ark of the Covenant, along with other Temple treasures, was hidden in the chamber under Golgotha by the prophet Jeremiah just before the Babylonian invasion of Jerusalem in 586 BC. This was supposedly done to protect these sacred items from desecration by the Babylonians. He believed Jeremiah hid them in this specific location, anticipating the future crucifixion site and its significance.
Were angels involved?
Yes, in Wyatt's story, angels played a significant role. He claimed that after he initially found the Ark chamber, angels appeared to him. These angels supposedly instructed him on what he could and could not do, and when the Ark would be revealed to the world. He even claimed that the angels told him not to reveal the discovery immediately, and that this was why he couldn't show conclusive photographic evidence.
What happens once you get the blood on it (according to his theory)?
For Ron Wyatt, the moment Jesus' blood flowed down through the earthquake crack and landed on the Mercy Seat of the Ark was the ultimate fulfillment of prophecy and the central act of atonement. His interpretation tied together several key theological concepts:
Ultimate Atonement: In the Old Testament, the high priest would sprinkle animal blood on the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) to atone for the sins of the people. Wyatt believed that Jesus' blood, being the perfect and final sacrifice, directly on the actual Mercy Seat, symbolized the ultimate and complete atonement for the sins of humanity. It was the "blood of the New Covenant" literally applying itself to the symbol of God's grace and forgiveness.
Proof of Christ's Divinity and Virgin Birth: As mentioned previously, the alleged genetic analysis of the blood (with only 24 chromosomes – 23 from the mother, 1 Y from a "non-human source") was presented by Wyatt as scientific proof of Jesus' divine fatherhood and the virgin birth. For him, this was tangible evidence that Jesus was indeed the Son of God, not merely a human.
Fulfillment of Prophecy: The entire scenario, from the Ark being hidden in that specific location to the blood dripping onto it at the moment of crucifixion, was seen by Wyatt as a divinely orchestrated event, fulfilling ancient prophecies and demonstrating God's meticulous plan for salvation.
Future Revelation and End Times Significance: Wyatt and his followers believed that the Ark of the Covenant, with the dried blood on it, would be revealed to the world at a specific time in the future, possibly tied to significant end-times events. The idea was that this undeniable evidence would lead many to believe and play a role in final spiritual awakenings.
Again, it is crucial to reiterate that these claims are entirely from Ron Wyatt's narrative and are not accepted by mainstream archaeological, scientific, or theological communities. There is no credible evidence to support his claims of finding the Ark, the specific location, the blood, or the miraculous genetic findings.
ok so the ark was down there in BC.. before Jesus died and they happened to crucify him in the same spot, up top?
Yes, that's precisely the central and most dramatic claim in Ron Wyatt's narrative:
According to him, the Ark of the Covenant and other sacred Temple artifacts were indeed hidden in an underground chamber in Jerusalem around 586 BC by the prophet Jeremiah, specifically to protect them from the invading Babylonian army that was about to destroy Solomon's Temple.
Then, incredibly, Wyatt claimed that the spot where Jesus Christ was crucified around AD 30 (roughly 600 years later) was directly above this very chamber. He specifically identified a crack in the rock at the crucifixion site that he believed extended down through the bedrock, twenty feet, into the chamber where the Ark was located.
The pivotal moment in his story is that when Jesus died on the cross, and the Bible states there was an earthquake that "split the rocks" (Matthew 27:51), this earthquake caused the crack in the bedrock directly under the cross to extend all the way down to the chamber. Furthermore, when the Roman soldier pierced Jesus' side with a spear, blood and water flowed out, down the cross, into this crack, and then supposedly directly onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant, which was housed in a stone case below.
This alignment of events, according to Wyatt, was not a coincidence but a divinely orchestrated fulfillment of the Old Testament sacrificial system, with Jesus' blood being the ultimate atonement.
Again, while this is a fascinating and dramatic story, it's crucial to remember that these are Ron Wyatt's specific claims, and they are not supported by any independent archaeological or scholarly evidence. The professional consensus is that his claims are unsubstantiated.
=====================
Watching that 1hr excavation video.. up to 19min.. The lady who's filming.. is showing where they're digging.
====================
rock of golgotha location in jerusalem, gps coordinates?
There is no single, universally agreed-upon "Rock of Golgotha" with precise, definitive GPS coordinates that are accepted by all scholars and archaeologists. The exact location of Jesus' crucifixion is a matter of ongoing debate and has two primary traditional sites in Jerusalem:
Church of the Holy Sepulchre: This is the most widely accepted traditional site, dating back to the 4th century CE when Emperor Constantine's mother, Helena, identified it. It's located within the Old City of Jerusalem today. The specific rock face believed to be Golgotha is encased within the church.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Church of the Holy Sepulchre:
31°46′42.5″N, 35°13′45.92″E (This refers to a camera location within the Church, so it's a good approximation of the general area).
Note on Location: While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is inside the modern Old City walls, archaeological evidence suggests that during the time of Jesus, this area would have been outside the city walls, which is consistent with biblical accounts that state Jesus was crucified outside the city gate.
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary): This site, just north of the Damascus Gate outside the Old City walls, became a popular alternative in the 19th century, particularly among Protestants. It features a skull-like rock formation and a nearby ancient tomb, leading some to believe it's the true Golgotha and burial site.
Approximate GPS Coordinates for the Garden Tomb:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
Ron Wyatt's claims (which we've discussed extensively) primarily focused on the area around the Garden Tomb, or specifically, the "Skull Hill" formation associated with it, where he claimed to have found the Ark of the Covenant underneath.
It's important to understand that:
Neither of these sites has absolute, undeniable archaeological proof to be the exact spot, but they are the two main contenders based on tradition, historical accounts, and some archaeological interpretation.
The "rock of Golgotha" itself refers to the rocky outcrop or hill where the crucifixion took place, rather than a single, distinct, portable rock.
where was whyatt digging.. neither of those places or was it the garden tomb
Ron Wyatt primarily focused his excavation efforts in the area of the Garden Tomb in Jerusalem. This site is located just north of the Damascus Gate, outside the Old City walls, and is considered by some Protestants as an alternative, more visually convincing location for Golgotha and Jesus' burial.
While the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the most widely accepted traditional site for the crucifixion and burial, Wyatt's claims and activities were centered on the Garden Tomb and the adjacent "Skull Hill" formation. He claimed that the Ark of the Covenant was hidden in a chamber beneath this particular area, directly under where he believed Jesus was crucified. The Garden Tomb Association has explicitly refuted Wyatt's claims of discovery within their grounds, though they did allow him to dig there on several occasions.
what's the gps for this skull hill
The "Skull Hill" (also known as Gordon's Calvary) is the rocky escarpment associated with the Garden Tomb. The approximate GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb, which encompasses this area, are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
The Garden Tomb (Gordon's Calvary) skull face gps location
The "Skull Hill" or Gordon's Calvary, which is the rocky escarpment with a skull-like appearance, is located within the broader area of the Garden Tomb. Therefore, the GPS coordinates for the Garden Tomb serve as the most precise publicly available coordinates for this feature.
The approximate GPS coordinates for the "skull face" at the Garden Tomb are:
31°47′1.87″N 35°13′47.92″E
=====================
It keeps saying the same numbers.. I'm looking at it in google earth. You got the garden tomb. Looked up what they meant by skull face. There's a couple eye holes in the wall and it looks like eyes. At 19min they show where they're digging.
These guys are fucking crazy the way that shit could cave in, 40 feet of stuff above and not much room. They can't use a jackhammer cause they had a cave-in. lol. So they're slowly hauling buckets outta there. No fucking permit either, eh. Like who would go there, do that these days.. This was the 80's though. Wouldn't cops show up? You try that shit here.. no way.. you know what I mean.
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wyatt didn't haul the ark out of there because the angels.. so wyatt closed up the tunnel?
You've hit upon a key element of Ron Wyatt's narrative about the Ark of the Covenant!
Yes, according to Ron Wyatt's accounts, he did not haul the Ark out of the chamber. His explanation for this was directly tied to supernatural intervention, specifically the presence and instructions of angels.
Wyatt claimed that on his fourth visit to the chamber where the Ark was located (after initially "discovering" it in 1982), four angels appeared to him. These angels allegedly:
Instructed him not to remove the Ark: They told him that the Ark and the tablets of the Ten Commandments (which he claimed to have seen within the Ark) were to remain hidden until a divinely appointed time, linked to future "end-time events" or the "Mark of the Beast" being enforced. The idea was that the Ark would serve as a powerful witness to the world at a crucial moment in history.
Guided his actions: Wyatt stated that he was unable to move or take clear photographs of the Ark unless the angels instructed him to. He claimed that attempts to photograph it resulted in blurred or unusable images, which he later understood was a divine prohibition against immediate revelation. He did claim to have filmed the Ten Commandments tablets as instructed by the angels.
After these encounters, Wyatt reported that he closed up the tunnel and the access to the chamber. This was his justification for why he could not provide verifiable evidence or allow other archaeologists to inspect his "discovery." He maintained that he was simply following divine instructions.
This element of his story, like all his other claims, is not supported by any independent evidence and is a major reason why professional archaeologists and scholars dismiss his discoveries as unsubstantiated.
so that ark would still be there
According to Ron Wyatt's claims, yes, the Ark of the Covenant would still be there in the chamber under Skull Hill (Garden Tomb area) in Jerusalem.
His consistent narrative was that he was instructed by angels not to remove the Ark or reveal its exact location to the world until a divinely appointed time. He maintained that he resealed the entrance to the chamber after his visits, leaving the Ark in its supposed resting place, untouched by human hands since ancient times.
It's important to remember, as we've discussed, that these are unsubstantiated claims made by Ron Wyatt. No professional archaeologist, scholar, or scientific body has ever confirmed his discovery or the existence of the Ark in that location. The general consensus among experts is that his claims are fraudulent or a result of misinterpretation, and there is no credible evidence that the Ark of the Covenant is currently located under Jerusalem or anywhere else that Wyatt claimed.
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ok so this is pretty crazy here.. cause technically, you could go dig out his shit and the ark is still there.