From the video “the distance of 17km should result in a curvature that obstructs this laser just over a metre high”

First of all there’s literally no way to confirm that 17km figure for me, so from that alone this argument means nothing to me and is unverifiable, but whatever:

https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-earths-curvature-after-1-km

Earth curves approximately 8cm per km, so going by the videos description of 17km distance there should be about 136 cm of curvature. A metre is 100cm, and he stated his laser’s height was “a little over a metre” (yet another useless, undocumented claim, but whatever). So let’s assume 1.2 meters high for the laser, 120cm. Now if his distance was off by even a single km, or he “rounded down” a height of 1.3 metres to “a little over a metre”, it goes from “bulletproof evidence the earth is flat” to “entirely expected by the standard model”.

I’m not convinced by that, certainly not enough to start attacking people as paid disinformation agents for disagreeing.

And the surface of the moon is smoother than a golf ball, aren’t proportions fun!

You’re calling davidcole a shill, he’s calling you and ForThe shills, and you want me to pick a side and call someone a shill in my topic about understanding that most people aren’t shills but well meaning people who’ve been duped into participating in a culture war. It should be obvious why that is (I don’t think it’s productive).

I was hoping it would be a logical thought experiment argument instead of a one-off experiment, but ok, I’ll check that out and get back to you.

My bias is I think it’s probably an oblate spheroid, but like RSF says above, and like I made this post to effectively try to state, who tf knows.

Ok, because I’m doing nothing right now, link me the best argument and I’ll try tell you what I think (preferably just one, like “why don’t airplanes have shorter travel times going with the earths rotation/atmosphere and longer travel times going against”, and preferably that one, so I can copy and paste my old comments hahah, jk)

Also I’m not saying discard these things, just accept that what you have likely is neither undeniably true or completely verifiably.

Most people don’t find it worthwhile. These conversations have taken place all over the internet for years, every time one video gets “debunked” (a word I dislike, but in this case, meaning “a fatal flaw in logic occurred here, leading to this faulty conclusion”) a new video, on an entirely different aspect will be presented and thus “shift the goalposts” endlessly. I once spent an afternoon going back and forth on the subject of plane flight times and the atmospheres effects, and absolutely would not have done that had the user been acting like ForThe or any of the other people who have constructed their identity around flat earth.

Question everything, question the shape of the earth, question NASA. Just don’t try to falsely affix your identity to a notion, a totem, a brand. Paging free-will-of-choice to make my point far better than I can, lol

Unless you think he is a ...

No, that’s exactly the silly, counter-productive bickering amongst truth seekers I made this post trying to reduce.

You say he is "mouth-frothing"...

ForThe specifically does have a tendency to do exactly that, reply in a careless, rapid fire approach that confuses the majority of readers and inflames the ones drenched in gas and looking for a match. Remember when he posted 12 different videos in a series, simultaneously? Or the series of 100 comment threads that are just 3 or 4 people calling each other shills over and over? Spiderman.jpg

If NASA is fraudulent,

Not even a question, they are some of the most heinous deceivers of our time. BUT. like I said in the first sentence of this post, their lies do not mean the earth is flat.

Not exactly blind, but certainly faith.

And what if I don’t say that?

So nothing has actually changed other than a warm, enveloping (and unearned) feeling of understanding and peace? Congrats on your heroin addiction/newfound religion.

Why are you doing this? Literally falling for the trap that I made this post to expose. Cmon bruh.

This guy may or may not be a shill, I lean towards well meaning goof, but you’re doing nothing to advance the discussion nor prove a point, just frothing at the mouth.

Yeah ok buddy, you and the rest of the YouTube comments section are the top 1% smartest people ever, way smarter than all those scientists who enter the field of astronomy and related subjects who can’t see through {their} tricks. You’ve deduced the truth with nothing but your own genius intellect, and 80-90 hours of Eric Dubay videos

Other than your mouth-frothing posts on the internet, how has your life changed since “discovering” the world is a flat plane?

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I posted the comment in your dead thread literally a minute before deciding to post here. Besides, we’re talking about posts here not comments, so you’re still a dingus

Read the post more carefully, from the understanding it wasn’t an attack.

Find any example of me posting about flat earth, go ahead dingus.

“Scientists tests” lmfao you have to be joking. You simultaneously appeal to the authority of vague, unnamed “scientists”, while rejecting the stance of almost every scientist who’s ever existed.

And everything I learned about the solar system is a lie? So the sun doesn’t exist? It doesn’t generate light and heat? Wow dude you have a pretty revolutionary philosophy here. Or did your uncritical word choice and argument lead you to sounding retarded?

Slight tie in to this, the one electron theory. I’ve never heard it described as sentient though, is there much material on that?

I do think a topic on cosmology could be really cool, or holographic cosmology like you and rsf suggested above

Appreciate it, thanks.

And yeah after my posts last week I’ve had like 4 accounts dedicated to downvoting everything lol, shills don’t like it when they have to burn accounts with 90k carma I guess kek

NASA constantly deceiving != the earth being flat

Flat Earth, in my estimation, is basically a “political wedge issue” of the conspiracy community. It has no real bearing on the lives of 99% of people, but everyone has to pick a side and fight over it.

Seriously. Nothing about your day to day life changes one way or the other, there’s no need to froth at the mouth over the topic, flattard or nasahole alike. Who cares?

Now that’s not to say, don’t spread facts and logical arguments about specific things, like the Van Allen radiation belts, or the {fake} moon landings, or whatever. But just dont tie your identity to the false totem of either “Flat Earth” or “Globe Earth”, it really has almost no bearing on your life, other than that which you give it, like any totem.

How’s Tel Aviv this time of year?

The Ur Religion, The Perennial Philosophy, The Eternal Golden Braid...

I agree, this is also an excellent subject for self-discovery. It can really blow my mind finding an ancient text and realize they were struggling with the exact same traps and conundrums as us, and their wisdom remains likewise timeless.

The only state that matters is your state of mind, friend!

My suggestion is the rather broad topic: human breath and human potential

I often mention a few aspects of this subject, such as bio energy, chi, or whatever you want to call it, but there are plenty of interesting directions to go.

For example, most people can’t hold their breath for more than a minute or so, but did you know that with a brief amount of practice you can hold your breath for 3,4, even 5 minutes? Did you know that for thousands of years this was common practice among humans living on the coast?. Did you know that some people, like David Blaine, have pushed this to absurd limits beyond 17 minutes?

And what does this return to? The breath, the spirit of life, which is the core of Chang’s Mo Pai, the core of the Tummo Yoga, and the core of Wim Hof’s practice.

Also, human potential could cover your evidence for other phenomena not currently acknowledged by wider society, such as astral projection, and other forms of ESP, which is an area of undeniable promise for important research and fruitful discussion.

The Falun Gong are prosecuted because they are unwilling to abandon the old ways from before the takeover, or younger members who have seen its wisdom. Heinous, truly.

Here’s to its change, good share.

Like here, youre a massive cunt to rsf about his “post history”, but if you had actually looked at it, you’d see a few posts on exactly your topic of newfound interest, the diviner’s sage.

If you’re capable of this kind of comment some of the time, you’re capable of doing it more often. Why act like such a cunt most of the time?