Don’t, it’s not worth it.
NASA constantly deceiving != the earth being flat
Flat Earth, in my estimation, is basically a “political wedge issue” of the conspiracy community. It has no real bearing on the lives of 99% of people, but so many just have to pick a side and fight over it.
Seriously. Nothing about your day to day life changes one way or the other, there’s no need to froth at the mouth over the topic, flattard or nasahole alike. Who cares?
Now that’s not to say, don’t spread facts and logical arguments about specific things, like the Van Allen radiation belts, or the {fake} moon landings, or whatever. But just dont tie your identity to the false totem of either “Flat Earth” or “Globe Earth”, it really has almost no bearing on your life, other than that which you give it, like any totem.
Most people don’t find it worthwhile. These conversations have taken place all over the internet for years, every time one video gets “debunked” (a word I dislike, but in this case, meaning “a fatal flaw in logic occurred here, leading to this faulty conclusion”) a new video, on an entirely different aspect will be presented and thus “shift the goalposts” endlessly. I once spent an afternoon going back and forth on the subject of plane flight times and the atmospheres effects, and absolutely would not have done that had the user been acting like ForThe or any of the other people who have constructed their identity around flat earth.
Question everything, question the shape of the earth, question NASA. Just don’t try to falsely affix your identity to a notion, a totem, a brand. Paging free-will-of-choice to make my point far better than I can, lol
But here's the thing.
You say question the shape of the Earth, but ON HERE, I've not seen one person debunk ANYTHING in those videos.
SOO...you are saying I should discard that stuff, but still question the shape of the Earth. That doesn't make much sense.
And no, I'm not affixing my identity to it. But it seems weird to chastise other people for it.
Ok, because I’m doing nothing right now, link me the best argument and I’ll try tell you what I think (preferably just one, like “why don’t airplanes have shorter travel times going with the earths rotation/atmosphere and longer travel times going against”, and preferably that one, so I can copy and paste my old comments hahah, jk)
Also I’m not saying discard these things, just accept that what you have likely is neither undeniably true or completely verifiably.
Shining a laser light directly across Lake Titicaca on the Convex Earth post by FortheGenerations. Fifty minute mark. The only video I've ever watched on the subject to boot.
There you go. In addition, why are you trying to debunk if you said question the shape of the Earth?
Pretty weird! Also weird you don't acknowledge the presence of shills, even though you had the post about them and all.
You’re calling davidcole a shill, he’s calling you and ForThe shills, and you want me to pick a side and call someone a shill in my topic about understanding that most people aren’t shills but well meaning people who’ve been duped into participating in a culture war. It should be obvious why that is (I don’t think it’s productive).
I was hoping it would be a logical thought experiment argument instead of a one-off experiment, but ok, I’ll check that out and get back to you.
My bias is I think it’s probably an oblate spheroid, but like RSF says above, and like I made this post to effectively try to state, who tf knows.
From the video “the distance of 17km should result in a curvature that obstructs this laser just over a metre high”
First of all there’s literally no way to confirm that 17km figure for me, so from that alone this argument means nothing to me and is unverifiable, but whatever:
https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-earths-curvature-after-1-km
Earth curves approximately 8cm per km, so going by the videos description of 17km distance there should be about 136 cm of curvature. A metre is 100cm, and he stated his laser’s height was “a little over a metre” (yet another useless, undocumented claim, but whatever). So let’s assume 1.2 meters high for the laser, 120cm. Now if his distance was off by even a single km, or he “rounded down” a height of 1.3 metres to “a little over a metre”, it goes from “bulletproof evidence the earth is flat” to “entirely expected by the standard model”.
I’m not convinced by that, certainly not enough to start attacking people as paid disinformation agents for disagreeing.