I concede that there are a lot of inconsistences in the NASA results of Apollo moon landings that was presented to public.

I don't know if any of Apollo missions really landed on the moon, may be there was many failures and deaths, so NASA had to fake some, or all data. But I'm shure that manned landing on the Moon was technically possible at the time, so I don't leave out a possibility that one or few times they did it, just not in the way they presented it to public.

Look at everything that's going on, it all aligns with your description of the ISS fakery. Idiocracy in real-time.

Can't agrue against due to solidarity with latter :)

Think about it this way: would an ever-expanding decaying Universe make more sense as a simulation/creation/construct than a small, self-contained realm?

Then why simulate an impression of ever-expanding decaying Universe for that realm? Is sombody/something build that small realm, there was no need to create such complex (more complex than realm itself) and useless Universe image around. People who grow win that small realm will accept is as is, as completely normal thing without any need of Universe.

Why would you believe there ever was any moon soil? How can you verify it?

Than why there is such insane difference in percentage of gifts? So no need to verify if it was real or not. In either case the exchange is highly suspicious.

These people say many things about a lot of things, but most, if not all, of them are untrue, as you probably are well aware.

Of course, but there is where I could check the things.

I know that satellites is real, because few times a day I receive a real-time image of my location from the height of 800km directly from the thing that is passing over my home with the speed 7.43km/s. It is much harder to fake that, with all failures, orientation losses, interference, doppler, clouds patterns and other stuff, than to launch real stellite on the 800km orbit.

So, if satellite is real, then space stations, moon landings and other stuff is possible. Taking close look at Soviet Luna program you will find regular failure rate, every thing is based on previous developments, there are no any sudden luck or marvelous advances. No any lost records, docs and drawings, everything that was developed used even now with some upgrades, no conradictions in mission reports and so on. There are no any signs of hoax, just routine work in full accordance to the technological level. I didn't find anything suspicious. And nobody did. Nothing even close to weird things that happened during US moon program. It was perfectly possible at the time to land on the moon and even bring some dust back. As it possible right now, without any significant problems - every single bit of tech is available. China repeat stages of Soviet Luna program right now, and in few years it should be merged with continuation of Russian Luna program. If that dumb bastards will not start nuclear war.

I like all your questions. But unlike moonhoax they are not settled, and need to be researched. Many have direct impact on what is going on.

Another *winner give me interesting answer -

Why do people discuss it? Because people care about the moon. You can go outside, look up at the moon, and marvel, that no man has ever been there before.

Moonhoax is like the smashing best dreams, hopes and believes by stupid government agency. I don't feel like that, that is why I didn't understand the point.

Why do people discuss it? Because people care about the moon. You can go outside, look up at the moon, and marvel, that no man has ever been there before

That's absolutely convincing and very nice point, that's what I needed. Thank you!

First you claim you do not care

I don't care, was it hoax, or not.

now you claim you want to understand it

I want to understand why that question is important for you.

If you want to discuss the JFK hoax, feel free to make topics about it.

I don't want to discuss it, since there are no any fresh info on it. Everything is discussed long ago. So with moonhoax. I want to know why moonhoax is important thing to discuss without any fresh info again and again, and JFK asassination is not. For me, both things are old and settled theories of same imortance with no new info for a long time.

I understand that language barrier things and US-centricity of researchers. Seems legit.

If the Moon landing is not real, and the ISS is not real (reminder: Russians are part of the ISS, too), I would wonder what else isn't real.

Exactly. and here comes the need to debunk Russian space program too. All of it. But I don't see any attempts to do that, with all power of computer translation and all that stuff. There was a huge hype in Russian liberal MSM about Gagarin flight, just after the fall of USSR, but the point was that USSR hid a lot of deaths of cosmonauts that tried to reach space before first official flight, not the questioning the fact of space flight itself.

But it is still unclear, even if ISS is somehow fake, why it is important? It is nothing in comparison with theory that we all live in simulation. Also, it is unclear what is the purpose of making such miserable fakes when humanity have all technologies to fake much more than one small old space station. Why not fake giant space stations and moon bases? Modern technology allow to do that in realtime without all staging problems that hoaxers had to meet 50 years ago.

Even going further - if there is no space at all, no satellites, no ballistic missiles, nothing, how that knowledge is useful, and what we supposed to do with that? Just yet another argument in "they are lying to us"?

I personally know that space is perfectly real and there are no any technical problems that prevent building moon and even martian bases with current human technologies. We had everything to expand beyond out planet long ago, even in 1980s, but TPTB artificially curtailed all space exploration to prevent escaping of humans from the TPTB control.

As for US Moon Landing - there are a lot of suspicious inconsistencies in the whole story, and highly probably it was in part or even in most part staged. However that does not prove that it was not technically possible at the time.

For me, most suspicious thing I rarely find in western sources is that when USSR got moon soil from Luna-16,20 and 24 (~326 g), 30.2 grams (10%) was gifted to US scientists. At the same time US got 378kg of moon soil and gifted only 29.4 grams (0.01%) to Soviet scientists. There also was inconsistencies and strange circumstances in the comparative studying of moon soil from both sources in USSR, but the huge difference in percentage of gifted soil already is highly suspicious. Even just politically it had been perfectly reasonable for USA to gift much more moon soil to USSR, just to show overhelming superiority. But even in absolute value it was less than what USSR gifted to USA from its modest loot. There was kilograms of USA moon soil in museums, but Russian scientists, only ones who could compare the US soil with the rest of Russian one, got only miserable 29.4 grams.

But this is a conspiracy community, where the hole point is to talk about conspiracies

There is hundreds and thousands of conspiracy theories around. Some are important and we digging them actively here, some are settled long time ago and everybody know all arguments. I don't see many discussions on JFK asassination here, f.e. But moonhoax topics pops routenly. Does that mean that question of US Moon Landing is much more important than JFK asassination?

As far as I understand, settled conspiracy theories have its honored place in library, and there was no any advances in them for a long time. Everybody who want to know about them could do it without any problems. No need to discuss them frequently. Others, that get updates from ongoing events discussed more intensively, and that is completely logical - new information allow to make theory stronger, or disprove it, so it is critical to discuss them.

What place moonhoax theory takes among all that theories? I didn't saw any interesting updates to it for a long time. May be, I even know more arguments for that theory than any who continue to post it here, since I have access not only to US/Europe conspiracy theories, but also to Russian ones. But here we didn't getting any updates too.

Why is it so special among other, that is is necessary to constantly pop it up without adding anything to what everybody here perfectly know for a long time?

I really don't understand that obsession with moonhoax in English-speaking communities, and just want to understand it.

Stop paying attention to what the government does not want you to know, that is what I hear you saying.

AFAIR talks about mooonhoax are 30 years old, if not more. Obviously that does not work. And even if that will work, what result is estimated?

I perfectly inderstand the need for debunking, say, coronahoax, I did everything what I could to debunk it and unveil the truth. It was necessary to literally save lives, right here, right now. What is the point of debunking moonhoax now? Why it is so important? Is it some sacral, religious thing for Americans, that should be destroyed? What is the place of US Moon Landing in the American culture? Or may be some important narratives that poison the life in US are based on that thing, so it is very important to destroy the base for that narratives?

Could you answer directly? I'm not a politician, I don't understand that indirect murky things well.

I'm trying to better understand other people and trying to get what is the importance of the topic. So asking questions. Since when asking questions become "triggered"? Last time it was "actively joining into discussion to disprove opponent at any cost". I'm not discussing the topic at all and don't try to disprove it. There are even no opponents for me.

Oh, wait. Are you implying the US may have well faked space (which you claim is of no consequence to you), but the Russian stuff is legit?

I never saw anything about Russian stuff being hoax. Especially in quantities of US Moon Landing debunking. For me, it is logical to suppose that those who trying hard to debunk their own country hoax will definitely, and in first place debunk a hoax of enemy country. I could understand when Russians try to debunk US space program and not trying to debunk Russian space program. But it is unclear for me why those who go so deep to debunk their own country hoax, somehow forgot to debunk Russian one. If that people are so stupid to think that there is only US iexists n the world, I don't see any sense to take them seriously. If they are clever enough to know that US in not the only space state on the planet. but don't question Russian space program - why should I do it? They checked every bit of NASA data, so they definitely do that with Russian Space Agency data too and find nothing to debunk.

What about the International Fake Station?

You should start from 7 Salutes and 1 Mir station. Have something?

It's other people who need convincing.

What is the purpose of that convincing? What will change if every American will know that US Moon Landing was a hoax? It is even not in the top 10 of USA hoaxes. Federal Reserve USD hoax is much more important and doing harm for the population right now, but I don't see the same obsession in convincing people in USD hoax.

Besides Vodka and Kalinka, what exactly would you say that the Russian population cares about?

New version of iPhone and decent VPN for using facebook and other shitty "social media" is much more important things than vodka and ancient dances now. Kalinka even in USSR was just a history and vodka hugely lost its significance over last decades.

It does not triggers me, I don't care, I just try to understand what is the point of decades of meaningless discussions on insignificant question.

OK, NASA lies (not only about Moon, really). So, what is the point? Some state agency lies. There is no any new useful information in this. What's next? Just sit and feel proud that you know that NASA lies?

I perfectly understand what is the purpose of digging in say, WEF dirt. That could give us a knowledge of their next moves and prepare. I perfectly understand all that "connecting dots" adventure of finding links in the structure of society. This gives foreknowledge of where it going. Or searching for hidden technologies that we could use for our profit.

But this moonhoax... It's like spend a tons of efforts just to prove that CNN had lied at Feb 20, 2021.

IDK, even if take into account national significance of US Moon Landing in USA history, I still don't get the meaning of results. Even if I try to put myself in similar situation, say imagine that USSR Ekranoplan program of building giant flying at low altitude vehicles was fake, then so what? OK it was fake. How it is important? Curious - may be. But what is the use of permanent forcing and pushing that revelation everywhere and rising senseless disputes between those who believe that ekranoplans was real and tose who believe that ekranoplans was fake? What useful knowledge could be extracted from that fact and if any, how to use that knowledge to defeat, say, elites of anything or to spare yourself from some future shit?

The Russian population is well aware that the Americans staged the moon landing.

Russian population don't really care about it. And those who care and think that US Moon landings was staged use completely different arguments than all that digging in NASA footage.

irrelevant stuff into the question of the moon landing

So, moon landings is irrelevant stuff in the question of moon landing?

You sound just like MSM. Do you understand that it is insanely stupid?

Let's first talk about the moon landing then we can move onto other topics.

OK, let's talk about Moon landings: List of Moon landings I want to talk about: Luna-9, Luna-13, Luna-16, Luna-17,Luna-20, Luna-21, Luna-24.

Then, we will move onto other topics.

If we never went to the moon

I don't care if US went to the moon or not at all.

can't stand to not believe that what you saw on tv was fake.

I didn't saw US moon landings on TV. They was broadcasted in USSR at the time, but I was not born yet.

despite all the evidence it didn't happen.

To state that, you have at least to show some evidence that USSR Moon landings was a hoax too. I didn't saw any article or video with anything that could even distantly resemble the debunking of USSR Moon program with all that numerous Luna devices including ones that bring back Moon soil and few Lunokhod robots that crawled the Moon surface long ago.

Somehow you think that the World is limited with USA. But it's not. You missed significant part of reality that should be researched too in your search for truth. If you somehow ignore a huge part of reality and focus only on some local topic, then something is very weird.

So, you don't care about real things, only about hype? Nice. :)

Why some people is so obsessed with digging in the question about moon landing? Neither answer have any significance.

Option one - US Moon Landing was real. So what?

Option two - US Moon Landing was a hoax. Again, so what?

It does not matter.

Much more interesting and really significant question is why the humanity (all humanity, not just US), while having all tech and means to develop and explore Moon for a long time abandoned all attempts to do it, like somebody prohibited that activity in whole.

Moon, as any atmosphereless celestial body open to the solar and space radiation contains a lot of tritium, much more than you could produce on Earth nuclear stations. Tritium is ~$30k per gram. One ton of tritium is $30B So it is profitable to develop the Moon even only for tritium, that is expensive now and will become more expensive when it finally become fuel for really working thermonuclear reactors. However, even profit does not cause extensive Moon exploration.

You could make rocket launcher from papier-mache, office paper, cardboard or any other material, even just take a pipe of suitable diameter. And it will be much faster than wait at least few days for 3Dprinter finish its job and than glue together multiple printed pieces.

Rocket launcher is just a tube with sight and simple firing system for projectile made from battery, switch and fuse. For advanced guided rockets you should add targeting electronics that will program projectile with target properties or coordinates, that in any case could not be 3Dprinted.

It is completely insane to blame a user in "supporting Russia" and not even try to study user point of view. :)

I had a long and interesting conversation with @En0ch on the topic of war and could assure he is in no way "supporting Russia", on the opposite, he believe that Russians are dumb unintelligent mongoloids without any chance for existence as modern civilisation who will be trashed by superior western tech. Just check his latest comments.

Yes, we had some common points on that this war is completely staged but completely differ on the goals and results of that staging.

Such unfounded statements about another user clearly show that you are just a dumb and lazy propagandist who don't even bother to find or check for any ground for stupid statements and just do them because your masters ordered you to do so. Pushing narrative at any cost. Fascinating! :)

Are you seriosly think that you have any chance that somebody will take you seriously here? This is not reddit or twitter, you have zero traget audience here.

Sodium thiosulphate or raw egg white. Both helps to take out mercury and other heavy metals from the body.

Metalic mercury itself is not toxic. You can't be poisoned with that strange liquid metal, just avoid getting mercury in open wounds, it could get to bloodstream and block little blood-vessels.

F.e. search for Cody'sLab on youtube, he have a lot of interesting videos about mercury.

Mercury vapour could be toxic, but it vapourizes very weakly at normal temperatures, so you need to try hard to get somehow poisoned by mercury vapour.

In no case broken mercury thermometer could be dangerous, just collect all that shiny balls into plastic or glass jar with cup and you are completely safe. No need to call emergency or special team with hazmats and stuff. Don't use vacuum cleaner for this, it could break mercury drops into mercury fog that will be impossible to collect and it will be vapourize more effectively due to large surface.

Mercury compositions, especially organic are toxic, not the metal itself.

Also, metallic mercury have interesting ability to create an alloy with aluminium that don't have an oxide cover, so aluminium quickly oxidized by oxygen in air and fall out from alloy, leaving mercury to continue with other aluminium. So, a little drop of mercury could easily destroy a lot of aluminium turning it into heap of aluminium oxide. That is why it is prohibited to transport anything with metal mercury on the planes.

It is strange that there is such enormous fear about mercury was created for unknown purpose.

Consumers deserve to know before they purchase a product, that their device can be made into a paperweight if/when the company decides to not run the servers or, worse, deem your device too old and artificially stop support for it.

It is a next level of "planned obsolescence", and I'm in doubt they will easily drop it anytime soon. You sould avoid such devices at any cost. It it is something very necessary and unreplaceable, as a way out I could propose replacement of firmware in such products with your own. In many cases you could reflash that "cloud devices" with your code, or, in the worst cases or non-eraseable ROM in MCU, replace MCU with a model with flash ROM and upload your code.

The same is with old-style mechanic "planned obsolescence". Replace the purposedly weak part with your own, made from decent material.

And fuck all that IP, patents and licenses shit. While you are not openly sell that fixes, you will be perfectly safe.

And I don't like motion sensors

Mee too. PIR sensors (ones that feel changes in temperature, with that white segmented IR lenses) make me feel weird and uncomfortable. Don't know why. And they turn off light if you are still here, but don't moving. Microwave sensors, like ones on the automatic doors in supermarkets and gas stations are better, but still there is feeling that it works not like it wold be correct. May be most discomfort is from quick and unexpected change in illumination. You approach dark place and your eyes adapted to the dark. And the sensor turns light on unexpectedly, you not control it, unlike with switch. May be with smooth turning on in sync with your approaching, the feeling would be much more pleasant. However I never saw ready devices with such feature, may be should try to make one to check.