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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Building a case for what? You have to actually define the charges before you can build a case.

I'm sure I did in my initial comment. You wanted me to provide evidence for that claim, remember?

That jewish financial and zionist interests were behind much of what transpired throughout modern history (1600's onwards), especially in terms of cultural subversion, central banking, wars and revolutions.

We have such direct confessions from members of the mafia, do we not? We have such direct confessions from Zionists don't we?

Zionism IS the conspiracy and since you agree then the argument is what are the purposes of zionism and what is the scope of the planning to achieve those purposes.

I'd say zionism is not just about the establishment of the state of Israel. It's about the establishment of a jewish kingdom that would rule over the world (which coincidentally is what international socialism - demonstrably conceived, organized and funded by jews - as well as the NWO conspiracy, which is based on corporate international socialism, is all about).

The best way to achieve this is through control of the world's economy and financial institutions, because who controls the money controls politics and the people. I can list you all the jewish banking families here as to not be accused of being "vague" but it's not too hard to find a list yourself. This is as much of a fact as is the mafia originating from freemason southern Italian carbonari revolutionary/unification secret society and eventually emigrating to the US where they successfully took over the organized crime world in all states.

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SmithW1984 6 points ago +7 / -1

Great now explain Building 7 and we're good. Did it collapse out of peer pressure?

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

They don't believe in the one true God. They are Satan worshippers and it's evident by the fruit they bear. It makes sense they will deceive and twist the laws in their worship since that's what Satan is about.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

So just right off the bat... If Gavrilo Princip was jewish that is enough of a connection to support the claim that jews are behind the war?

And Trotsky being a jew.... That too is enough of a connection to support the claim?

"So the fact I have eyes and a mouth makes me a human?" - that's called reductionism, dude. No, him being jewish is not sufficient evidence by itself but it's still evidence building a case. What do you expect? Someone finding a signed confession letter of a representative of the jewish cabal admitting to it? Well, in some cases such confessions exist like The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or the letters between the Sindarin and Oliver Cromwell, but their legitimacy is disputed.

The point is if there is conspiracy to serve jewish interests, I want to see the object directly, not just the shadows on the wall. I need someone to explain to me what are "jewish interests", and tell me how the jews coordinate to achieve them.

There was an obvious example of this in the text. The establishment of the state of Israel in Palestine is a jewish zionist interest that was served by their agents in the British parliament lord Rothschild and lord Balfour.

I guess the point I'm making is that I could go through any historical event and draw connections to any ethnic group in the same way... In fact it's the same thing wokies do when they claim white people run everything for the benefit of white people.

Because wokies are dumb retards with no knowledge of history. There's no such historical grouping of "white people". White people conceived of themselves as followers of some religion in this case Christianity, then they were divided in different denominations that slaughtered each other and belonged to kingdoms and nation states. The problem with jews is that they partake in the government of other countries which they are supposed to be citizens of, and yet their loyalties lie elsewhere - with their ethnic group and state. This makes them foreign agents in those countries and ultimately makes them internationalists.

I'm not here to convince you of anything and I don't care what your opinion is. But we share ideas and information here and if you're interested you can check the sources I gave you, see how they make their cases and judge for yourself - I'm sure you don't need my interpretation of them.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

WW1... Let's start there... Tell me how jews were behind WW1. Name the jews that are responsible and explain to me what they did to start the war. What were their motives? And how did their story turn out after the war?

Here it goes:

World War I started on 28 June 1914 when Gavrilo Princip, allegedly of Jewish origin and a member of a terrorist group, the Black Hand, assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austrian throne, and his Czech born wife at Sarajevo, Bosnia Herzegovina. Princip was a collaborator of Leon Trotsky (real name Lev Davidovitsj Bronstein), [186] a Russian Jew who was conspiring with a fellow Jew Vladimir Lenin (named Ulyanov when adopted, real name Zederbaum) [187] to overthrow the Russian monarchy. He was in turn financed by an American Jew Jacob Schiff, [188] who was a front man for an English Jew Lord Nathan Rothschild, who was one of the masterminds behind this appalling catastrophe. These facts were confirmed in the United States Senate in 1921, when it was recorded that “Full responsibility for the First World War lies on the shoulders of the International Jewish Bankers. They are responsible for Millions of dead and dying.”

In late October 1926 further confirmation of these incontrovertible facts was revealed in a conversation between British parliamentarian Victor H Cazalet and Henry Ford (1863-1947). When the former asked who the international Jewish financiers were, Ford replied: “I have several books which will tell you who they all are. They were responsible for the last war, and will in the future always be capable of creating a war when they feel their pockets need one.” [190]

Trade rivalry, competing alliances and misunderstood mobilisations are often proffered as being the primary causes of World War I. However, the real reasons in order of importance are as follows:

  1. To destroy the Russian Empire and its State Bank.

  2. To break up the other empires (Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman) into smaller states, which could then be exploited more efficiently through the establishment of central banks.

  3. The theft of Palestine and the creation of a Zionist puppet state under the direct control of the Rothschilds.[191]

By the end of 1916 the British and French armies were in danger of losing the war, with the latter army having already mutinied on the Western front. The British had lost their naval supremacy at the Battle of Jutland on 3 May 1916, when the German Navy, outnumbered by two to one, humiliated the invincible Royal Navy, sinking 12 vessels for the loss of six and losing 2,551 sailors compared to the British loss of 6,094. [192] Both Kaisers were desperate to bring an end to this fratricidal and pointless slaughter. Seemingly out of the blue came an offer from Lord Rothschild to secure American intervention in return for handing over Palestine to a group of Jewish Zionists after the liquidation of the Ottoman Empire.[193] On 6 April 1917 the United States declared war on Germany [194] and the other central powers and on 2 November 1917 Lord Rothschild and his Zionist collaborators received their written undertaking by Great Britain to eventually hand over Palestine to Jewish settlers. [195] This infamous document known as the Balfour Declaration, was drafted by Lord Arthur James Balfour, British Foreign Secretary and General Jan Christian Smuts, a member of the Imperial War Cabinet. The misery of this unnecessary war dragged on for another two years. Russia was totally destroyed and an insoluble problem was created in the Middle East. As Rabbi Reichorn prophetically remarked in 1859, “Wars are the Jews’ harvest, for with them, we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them. We shall drive the Christians into war by exploiting their national vanity and stupidity. They will then massacre each other, thus giving room for our own people.” [196] In similar vein Gutle Schnapper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife, is reputed to have said shortly before she died in 1849, “If my sons did not want war, there would have been none.” [197]

An armistice was declared on 11 November 1918 and seven months later on 28 June 1919 the deeply flawed Treaty of Versailles was signed. Germany had to accept exclusive blame and pay extortionate reparations of £6.6 billion [198] equivalent to the entire wealth of the country, even though the other principal belligerents England, France and Russia were equally, if not more blameworthy. This indemnity would be used to repay the international bankers the fraudulent loans and interest, which had been previously lent to the governments of Great Britain and France. As General Smuts said at the conference, “Everything we have done here is far worse than the Congress of Vienna. The statesmen of 1815 at least knew what was going on. Our statesmen have no idea.”

There's a lot more to add too regarding the financial aspects and behind the scenes machinations by jewish bankers like Warburg and Rothschild. If Wilson had not been elected, we might have had no Federal Reserve Act, and WWI could have been avoided. The European nations had been led to maintain large standing armies as the policy of the central banks which dictated their governmental decisions. There are many moving parts here and if you want get into the nitty-gritty you'd have to read the books. People like Carol Quigley, Anthony Sutton, Archibald Ramsey and Eustace Mullins did an amazing job researching the jewish financial elite and their central banking.

I suggest we move to the Bolshevik revolution and the USSR next, because there's a treasure trove of evidence there.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think a thick ass book is the most bad faith and intellectually dishonest way to present and argue for any controversial claim, as a book is essentially one person's monologue, and the longer a single person is allowed to drone on uninterrupted the more easily they can build up false narratives by introducing a few falsehoods here, twisting a few things there, cherry picking a bit from this, and disregarding a bit of that. We've all seen this very phenomena on every TV news show.

Dude, I presented you the argument and gave sources that show the evidence, what else do you expect? What is the "intellectually honest" way to go about historical events? Search my feelz and come to the truth inside me? What's your alternative to gathering knowledge on things you don't have direct access to besides reading books and papers other people wrote?

I'm not asking you to take it for granted because someone wrote about it, but if you're doing research you should look into their arguments. Rejecting them because "it's someone else's biased view on things presented in a book (as opposed to what? a tiktok video? a conspiracy sub?)" is as bad faith as it gets, talk about intellectual dishonesty. All narratives of events are someone's interpretation and are biased. If you care about the subject, you read and crosscheck the information given while discerning to what extent the opinions presented are logically sound and cohere with the overall narrative. People literally can't read serious books any more. They have been psy op'ed to get instantaneous and effortless knowledge on demand with no subject being too complex and deep for that (the "ask google" effect).

That's essentially the same bad faith argument normies defer to when any grand conspiracy, tptb, establishment elite, etc. are mentioned: "Who's They?!?" Sure, I can tell you exactly who They are if you have a few days to spare, but it won't happen in the context of a casual conversation. That's like asking me to explain grad-level music theory (or any complex subject), which takes years to learn, to someone who has no musical education in a few sentences over a beer or two.

Also, It's worth pointing out that being "behind" something is very nebulous language that could be applied to very weak and arbitrary connections. And "jewish financial interest" is also very nebulous language.

It could be and that's why you have to see if that's the case. It's vague because it's a broad argument synthesized in a single sentence. There are very particular definitions and elaborations on the things you ask about but you complain they are too long and complex because they are not a tweet or a random anon's take on the conspiracy sub.

Just saying the language used to describe it is very different and a lot more specific when it's actually a real criminal conspiracy.

Could you give an example?

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SmithW1984 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sound advice - reproduce and abandon your children to their crazy mothers who then brainwash them into thinking they are troons (one of Elon's sons has been castrated). Total psychopaths.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't it curious that a mere hundred years ago this was common knowledge with people like Hendry Ford and major politicians, historians and army people writing about it, and now it's some sort of a wild conspiracy that gets normies loose their minds and call you an anti-semite? We've come a long way, but I'm sure it's just organic "progress".

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm sure the psy op guys plant such theories to poison the well. Then they use the confusion to control other theories challenging the status quo (like NASA being fake and gay and macroevolutionism being a scam). The "demented ones" are not all demented, thus discrediting valid theories by association.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough but the irony is the meme itself does what it criticizes, namely discrediting valid positions by placing them along demented ones.

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SmithW1984 7 points ago +8 / -1

BTC is DARPA technology and is the basis of the future global CBDC and fully digitalized economy under the 6G internet of things. Freemasons just can't help embedding their annoying symbolism in everything they do. Just like with the ugly rings and the ridiculous hand gestures, they have to push their gnostic bullcrap on every technology and cultural product they create (remember the Apple I by disgusting jew Steve Wozniak sold for $666).

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +2 / -1

Is this a joke? Do you know how much the metal in the coins cost? Go check: even the fancy 1 euro coin is $0.04 so that's 4% of the value. And one more thing - you don't legally own the coins. You use them for their nominal value but they're owned by the government or the private central bank. If you decide to melt a large quantity for scrap metal you may get prison time.

FIAT MONEY IS NOT REAL. It doesn't matter if it's coins or banknotes. It's not backed by anything except the system itself which is manipulated by the central bankers and politicians, who are always jewish. They make money out of thin air and they've been doing that for hundreds of years. It was a matter of keeping a physical ledger of the money they created and loaned and now it's the same bs, only it's a digital ledger.

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SmithW1984 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm not a cryptobro but saying blockchain or BTC ain't real doesn't do much. Not a single currency is real for that matter and every bank is basically a digital ledger of 0s and 1s on a server counting non-existing money.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure, gayliens exist and also Darwinian psy op theory of cosmic macro evolution is true (disregard Darwin's Royal Society occult masonic ties, he wanted you to know the truth). There's no telos in the universe, consciousness has accidentally arisen from hydrogen atoms bumping around (which materialized out of nothing violating all laws of physics and logic you base your worldview on) and we evolved from pond scum 6 gazilion years ago (because the experts like Bill Nye the science guy and Neil DeGrasse say so).

Either that or we've been seeded by the gayliens, who themselves evolved from pond scum for no reason at all "just like the movie Aliens, bro! Would Hollywood lie to you?"

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I'm not reading your Q-tard cope drivel. I proved you wrong - Trump is a zionist puppet and he said so himself time and time again. Your movement is the fakest and gayest shit and the most obvious psy op to ever come out in the last 20 years - it's even faker than Trump's Warps speed bioweapon he brags about.

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SmithW1984 3 points ago +3 / -0

That explains why she's so stupid and psychopathic - it runs in the family.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imagine having Kamala as the US president. At least Biden was a career politician and was professional before he got dementia. Kamala has a lower IQ than dementia riddled Joe and she's completely insane. It would be like having a retarded Jack Nicholson Joker in office.

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SmithW1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes I know the experiment and I also think distraction plays a huge role, and while they're all part of the elites and are essentially against the people, I don't think they are entirely on the same page. When it comes to power you always get infight (like in the cartel and mafia world). Because they lack any sense of morality, they roll by the laws of nature and might makes right.

The elite are to smart to let us know the truth, because then everyone would actually understand, that there isnt anything left to lose.

No, they are not, or rather they have no problem letting the truth out - there are dozens of their books and white papers spelling out their plans. The thing is they know only a small minority will ever care to read them and be able to connect the dots.

I always ask the blackpillers: If there's nothing left to lose then why do they bother keeping up the charade? If they're fully in control they could roll out their NWO dictatorship anytime they wish.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not according to people who think they're all in the same bed and everything is kayfabe.

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SmithW1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd rather believe in extraterrestrials than us having sent some freemason dweebs golfing on the moon.

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