What's the point in criticizing something that you don't even understand? The point is to discredit it obviously, because you're a shill.
Again ignoring the fundamental difference between CBDC and BTC/decentralized and anonymous cryptos.
How? By shitting on alternatives like BTC? Isn't it strange that leftist globalist owned media share your lack of enthusiasm about BTC? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/18/the-guardian-view-on-cryptos-latest-crash-it-reveals-who-pays-the-price-for-a-failing-economy
But then you can't have any knowledge. There has to be a starting point which isn't properly justified. We already have these starting points within our minds so we may as well just be explicit about them instead of pretend everything we think has some justification.
In epistemology, that would be assuming the classic foundationalist position. There are two other possible options - infinite regression and coherentism. I reject foundationalism because it's ad hoc. Foundationalism (like Descartes' famous cogito) got nuked during the Enlightenment by skeptics like Hume and later Kant and became an untannable position. If being ad hoc is allowed, then all argumentation and philosophical discourse about truth, existence and the good becomes impossible.
Your starting point is that it's OK for you to kill babies? Great, but we're going to judge you according to our standards, not yours.
That's an appeal to irrelevancy and an appeal to authority/majority. Nothing about this has to do with the position being true or not.
You still do work stuff out for yourself, which is how you arrived at your views. You're no different from everyone else trying to figure stuff out and judging other people's views to be wrong.
Sure, how we arrive to knowledge depends on our worldview but worldviews aren't equal. I already demonstrated how the materialist worldview can't justify it's basic principles and assumptions. The point is that the laws of logic and thought are objective. Just because I'm the one making the claim or the argument doesn't make it a subjective claim. If I can demonstrate that competing worldviews are incoherent, unjustified and lack explanatory power, while making the case that my worldview is coherent and grounds the things we all appeal to (reason, logic, meaning, purpose, free will, universals, etc), then my worldview is true.
You think these are good explanations for the way things are? No, of course not. The fact people can come up with dumb theories doesn't tell us that we can't work anything out for ourselves.
They may be dumb, but you still have to demonstrate why they're false. That something seems dumb or unlikely to you is not an argument about it being true or not. Atheists think all religious claims are equally dumb and made up. So what?
Nature is the only thing that everyone who believes in a creator can agree is the work of the creator. So are we going to judge things by nature that we know is from the creator or are we going to judge things - including nature - by something which claims to be from the creator but cannot definitively prove it and doesn't live up to its claims? So are we going to judge things by nature that we know is from the creator or are we going to judge things - including nature - by something which claims to be from the creator but cannot definitively prove it and doesn't live up to its claims?
Saying we all believe in nature therefore belief in nature is the common ground doesn't work. Nature to a Christian is an entirely different concept than what nature means to a materialist, new age gnostic or a Buddhist. This is a word-concept fallacy - just because the same word is used (like God, creator, nature, etc) it doesn't follow that it points to the same idea. Nature itself is a metaphysical concept. How you interpret nature depends on things that are not found in nature itself - this ties back to what Hume is/ought problem and Thomas Kuhn's ideas about paradigms and theory-ladenness (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory-ladenness).
This is why broad generic theism (like perennialism, theosophy and freemasonry) doesn't work in making a coherent worldview because it's riddled with incompatible core beliefs. There's no "lowest common denominator God".
Low effort troll just like the name suggests. Is anyone a real thinking human being and not AI, schizos and NATO/Mossad cognitive warfare operative running psy ops on this board?
"Everyone disagreeing with me is a talmudic jew" logic. Even though I'm the one critiquing the current Fed system that was set up by the international jews. I've red Mullin's and Coleman's books on the Fed and I'm very aware who's behind it. How does that solve the problem of getting off that system?
The problem we face is not digitalization but centralization. The internet is digital and that's fine as long as it's not centralized. Same goes for money. Digitalization is dangerous because it facilitates centralization. But the Fed system is already fully centralized even if cash is the last bastion preventing full on tracking and tracing.
So you don't think they will transition us to digital money in the near future?
The irony is what I'm saying is exactly the opposite - don't submit to the techno-gulag and make sure you have an alternative to the coming CBDC social credit system. What you refuse to understand is that if you go on using the fiat money as you do right now because it's cash, you will certainly be transitioned to CBDC. Your cash makes you 100% reliant on the Fed system. I'd take digital BTC over cash fake and gay printer money anytime.
It's coming either way. As of 2022, 12% of Transactions within the US are in cash. Cash will be completely fazed out and discontinued by 2030 and there's nothing you can do about it.
Your choice is between centralized Fedcoin or decentralized BTC.
The ledger stores transactions from on wallet to another. Wallets are just a hash code - no name, address, bio-data, ID number. How is that not anonymous?
Instead of speculating where it came from, look at what BTC represents - an alternative to the usury debt-slave fiat system - and judge it according to that.
Rome says they have apostolic succession, Protestants say they have it from Rome, Baptists say they have it from Irenaeus via the Waldensians, and Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, and Assyrian Church of the East all say they got it from the catholic orthodox Church too. That's why I ask why EO is different. I don't see it. If Rome apostasized by excommunicating other professing vibrant churches, Constantinople did the same later, so that can't be it.
Yes, Rome and other historical Churches like the Oriental and Armenian can reasonably lay claim to apostolic succession. The argument why they're not the Church is not about this.
How do Protestants got it though? They don't have bishops. They don't have laying of hands to pass the Holy Spirit to the next bishop. They literally believe the Church defected for 10-15c. in spite of what Jesus said in Matthew 16:18. They don't have shit apart from the delusion that the Spirit operates through each individual leading them to different confessions. This inevitably means that He leads some to falsehood - this is not only blasphemous, but a devastating contradiction at the fundamental level of the system.
The only out is to claim only some Protestants have the Spirit and the true faith while others are in delusion. What's the standard for that? "Well, those who agree with my take have the Spirit because I obviously have Him". Yeah, that's a circle. This is how idiotic Protestantism is truly. It ultimately appeals to pride, individualism, subjectivism and autonomy. It's an irrational cult of the self veiled as Christianity that delusional people fall for. I can understand being a cradle prot for lack of information, but there's no excuse for one who doubles down on their mistakes after hearing the truth. At this point you are a heretic and you'll be judged accordingly. Consider yourself - you have all the knowledge you need about Church history and Scripture but you still decide to do your own thing and come up with your own way to the faith. This is willful rejection of the Church but we always pray for God to bring back the schismatics and heretics to His Body, so hope is not lost.
That's why I ask why EO is different. I don't see it. If Rome apostasized by excommunicating other professing vibrant churches, Constantinople did the same later, so that can't be it.
I already answered that. Rome apostatizing has nothing to do with them excomunicating anybody. You hold wrong assumptions and applying an arbitrary made up standard.
Seems like in many schisms both sides claim that mantle and tear it in pieces like Jeroboam. Same for who accepts which councils as rightly called.
I like poetry too. What it seems to you has nothing to do with the actual cases. When there's a contradiction it has to be resolved and that's done in councils where the correct teaching is affirmed by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Reformed Protestants claim the mantle, for instance, believing that all churches should pursue the nonessential distinctives that make them part of the same essential mission. So please pardon my ignorance in not seeing what you see.
No one taught this prior to Luther. This has nothing to do with how the early Church operated so again it's ahistoric. Furthermore this doctrine assumes a criteria for judging which parts of the faith are essential. Judging by how the Protestant sects killed each other for centuries, I'd say they didn't agree on such a standard. They can't even agree on baptism, let alone more nuanced issues.
Only retards who don't know the meaning of words disagree, my dear troll. Probably your alts.
usury /ˈjuːʒ(ə)ri/ noun the action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.
lending /ˈlɛndɪŋ/ noun the action of allowing a person or organization the use of a sum of money under an agreement to pay it back later.
So your allegiance is with the current system. Good to know.
So? Appeal to (fallible) authority? I like to call this The Catholic Fallacy.
So where was the Church hiding in the meantime?
No earthly authority holds the correct interpretation. There is one Truth that none of us are privy to; all we can do is seek it. By seeking with the simple, and indisputable, assumption that God is Good, the bible can set you on the right path.
Who of the millions of protestants reading the Bible is on the right path and holds the correct doctrines and how do you determine that if each person is their personal authority on interpretation.
Seriously, I don't think the bible is infallible either, being recorded and propagated by men. I'm not literalist by any means. The bible, to me, is a map that can set you in motion. It's still up to you to take the journey, and maybe go astray and find your way back, but the only infallible thing that we know of is God Himself and his creations. The only way to Truth is by putting yourself in alignment with God; no amount to interpretation will help you if you don't do that.
So you're not even Sola Scripture guy? This is actually the muslim line of argumentation. What's the criteria that you use to discern which parts of the Bible are true? How do you know you're aligned with God and not in delusion? Based on feelz?
How about people who purposefully obfuscate the text so that they can claim the authority of God? Do they not have their own "baggage"? Do they not constantly make concessions to earthly powers to maintain their positions?
That's a tu quoque. Even if they do that doesn't help your case.
If I'm wrong (and, ultimately, I am) only I reap the consequences. I'm not misleading others for my own aggrandizement
Not exactly. If you spread false teachings publicly and misleading others it's not just about you, regardless of your intentions which I believe are good.
Borrowing at fair interest is not usury, kike.
You may need to look up the definition of usury, bud.
What about all the other churches who say they do the same and that the other churches left them? See, I don't see that credential for Orthodoxy among the 10,000.
Let's go one by one if you wish. I already did Rome. The Protestant sects don't even have apostolic succession and are ahistorical (where was the Church before Luther came)?
The question's logic is that if Rome is out because it excommunicated vibrant professing Christianity, well I find that Constantinople also excommunicated vibrant professing Christianity in 1724.
Did you read my reply at all? Rome's falling away has nothing to do with what happened in 1066. The schism was 12 years before that and the reasons for it go back centuries before that.
If Rome "defected" by adding filioque (and/or supremacy), then why excommunicate the Uniats when they might be part of God's purpose to reveal the resolution of filioque or supremacy to the Orthodox?
Because the Church's foremost mission is to keep the true faith intact. The Body of Christ can't tolerate falsehoods and contradictions.
Does semper idem forbid new councils?
Ecumenical councils were called for a good reason, namely to resolve pressing issues dealing with Church dogma and doctrines. If such an issue presents itself such a council can be called.
All objective morality has to appeal to some standard. And then the question of "Why is that the standard?" shows that it likewise is in some sense relative. You can answer that question with some reasons, like God having authority to decide what is moral in his creation, but it never disproves other standards of morality which are justified by other reasons, such as the atheist's "Whatever leads to human flourishing is what is moral".
That's why such debates boil down to worldview comparison and transcendental argumentation - which worldview can justify the thing in question, in this case morality. The problem with the atheist position is that they can't justify their claims within their worldview. Why? Because atheists believe in a meaningless and purposeless deterministic universe of random chemical processes in constant flux. They can't give an account how the laws of logic, metaphysics, knowledge and ethics exist in such a universe. It's a self-refuting position. But even if we grant them the proposition "Whatever leads to human flourishing is what is moral", they can't answer why it is the case and how they know that without being ad hoc or circular. Even if the proposition is true, it's not a justified belief but an axiomatic/self-evident one. But nothing can be self-evident and everything needs to be justified.
And if we trust our consciences (and we all do) we need an explanation for why they are trustworthy. The obvious explanation is that they were meant to guide us, being given to us by the creator(s). And then it only makes sense that the creator would have a similar sense of morality to our consciences, and being the source of our consciences is a more reliable measure of what is moral - for we know our consciences do not always agree. And knowing this creator also made other people's consciences, as well as the whole of nature, it follows that we can get closer to the creator's morality by studying the consciences of others and the things of nature, which appear to be made for our benefit, given how so many of them are good for our health in contrast to artificial things.
Those are a lot of assumptions. Maybe the creator is the evil demiurg of the Gnostics? Maybe we're supposed to rebell against the evil demiurg and transcend the limitations of the nature he created by using artifice and becoming transhumanists? Maybe the creator didn't make all people the same and maybe some people don't even have a soul and are vessels for evil spirits (shout out to Scientology)? The point is without God's explicit revelation we can't know any of this just by looking around.
This is not to say that outside of Christianity people can't be moral - they can and they have been historically obviously (which is in line with the Christian teaching of God's law being written on our heart). What they can't do is justify objective morality.
Your question makes no sense. What has the post-schismatic Pope excomunicating the Patriarch Michael I has to do with EO being the true Church? The Melkites are uniates and went to Rome. What's confusing you there? We know what the true Church is because it keeps the apostolic faith unchanged in line with the dogmas of the ecumenical councils and the Church fathers. This is why Rome defected when they introduced the filioque and papal supremacy which contradicted the teaching and structure of the Church of the first millenium.
"Fear of death" says nothing about whether the Bible is true or not.
There is no "true Church" other than the personal ministry of Jesus Christ himself; no other path. All men are fallible and so all the works of men are corrupt.
No one believed this prior to Luther 15c. after Christ. Anyone who knows basic Church history can't be a Protestant.
If you read the bible as though God is a fallible human who makes mistakes (or even that exists within space and time), and try to judge Him, you will find Him wanting because he doesn't do and say what you would do and say. You implicitely place yourself above God, hence atheism.
Concentrate. The argument is that the Bible doesn't interpret itself - no text does. The question is what is the authority that holds the correct interpretation. The Pope, the Church - the group of "fallible men" that produced and compiled and kept unchanged the infallible Bible canon you appeal to - or individual faliable people (like you) who tend to disagree on what the text means because they come to it with their own theoretical baggage and assumptions. Only one of those will bring you to correct interpretation.
Back in the day when I red the Bible I became a convinced atheist. Almost as if a person needs to read Scripture through a correct paradigm to come to a correct interpretation. I wonder what that paradigm is? Could it perhaps be the institution established by the One that speaks through the text? Nah, that's a man-made tradition. Just read it in your closet and you'll definitely get everything right on your own. Your interpretation will most likely align with what at least one of the 10000 different sects teaches out there.
Assuming any of them is the true Church (spoiler alert: it is not because history) 10000 to 1 for being correct is not that bad I guess.
Judaism as a system does not have an official position on his messiahship. (The official position is that the Sanhedrin did offer him all rights during his trial, and that nobody has completed all the works of Messiah yet, but it says nothing about his power to complete them.)
That's a contradiction. If they claim nobody has completed the works of the Messiah yet, this means that Jesus was not the Messiah - Him having the power or not is irrelevant to the question and an obvious red herring. I had my suspicion and gave you the benefit of the doubt but reading such pure sophistry makes me think you are not acting in good faith and run an agenda here (something other users have claimed).
My challenge to everyone stands: Find a congregational rabbi or rabbinical org that teaches that Judaism requires rejection of Jesus as Messiah.
Now now, you're getting smart with me. I said Jesus being God, not just Moshiach. Find me a rabbi who would agree with that and not call worshiping Jesus Christ as God idolatry, blasphemy and polytheism. Come on dude, you're insulting me at this point. I'm too knowledgeable on Church history, theology and philosophy for your word games to work. You're wasting taxpayer money on me.
"Oh, no! BTC is surely going down this time!"
No, it's your last chance to exchange your fiat notes for real money at such a low price. It's going to 200K+ next year.
The real conditioning device is the fake and gay central banking money printer inflationary usury credit system you're currently on, boomer. You will be the one ho will be transitioned to CBDC willingly or not. Meanwhile people who hold assets like BTC will prosper outside of the techno-gulag that you'll be ushered in by the centralized banking overlords. Your salary, taxes and bank account will become USDT or outright eDollar very soon.
Instead of shitting on BTC tell us where's your alternative to the current system?
We'll see I guess. It's useless to argue with someone who doesn't even understand what BTC is.