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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Get real, I may be an asshole, but I have yet to see you post anything worth giving a shit about, yet here is more ranting and whining how you feel you have been mistreated for the garbage you post. So, this is the honest truth, who gives a shit.

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

What the fuck, who gives a shit?

What does this have to do with anything? Everything is controlled by the khazarians, this forum that forum your mom, you fucking name it, who gives a shit, post something worth reading.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

You have the mind of a small wee child, this is my last retort to you.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are clearly beyond understanding. Your inability to form an understanding by itself using the words leading to this point are all that is needed.

Grabbing bits and pieces of words written does not form understanding, fyi.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

precisely why you are the piece of shit you are scum.

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HonestTruth 5 points ago +5 / -0

haha you whining sniveling little bitch.

You absolutely did post flat earth garbage on this forum and that is exactly what you got removed from that shitty forum for, why you give a flying fuck is the only question I have.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

bwa hahahahah, you are so funny. Yes, I did but what I was meaning was the account? on this forum? not block you on some other irrelevant forum I never visit, haha. you really making me lol here.

I can elaborate, each post you make here is such a piece of shit useless garbage until you post something someone else has already posted. I been watching you for a while now. You are completely fucking useless.

I am happy to have you sit here and learn and watch and grow for sure do it. I was mostly suggesting don't bother posting shit cause noone gives a fuck about your dumb shit kid. carry on.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol, smoke another one meathead. it's all about you huh? like I give a flying fuck. do you see any of my posts in that place? comments? anything? jesus fucking christ you do as bout of good of research on your fail claims as you do your fail beliefs.

At least this guy here provides a list I absolutely read everything he wrote and he knows it, he is just bitter cause I have not latched it and he wasted a ton of time writing it when only a few words were needed.

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

No I have not really explained the response yet at all, thus the brief opportunity to provide more points to the short list I had created based on your writings.

First of all, Let's be clear on what a belief is. A belief is a a state of mind one obtains when they feel they have acceptance on a given topic when framed in a given perspective, so they align towards agreement within that framing.

This does not require to have a basis of fact or evidence, just statements with claims is all that is required.

If you were to say to me, wef is crazy and the oligarchs running all the west are insane.

I would immediately align with you in full agreement, no evidence to speak of, no other inputs required. we are aligned, perhaps related to my current bias.

So when does it go from being a belief, to being a construct of reality?

Generally this occurs based on experience, so for example. If I was say a metallurgist questing for a alloy type, there have been many simple experiments one can conduct to deduce what the content of a given piece of matter is. This forms the basis of ones understanding of what content they have and from there can extract the necessary amounts and produce the desired alloy.

This is no longer a belief at all, this is a systematic process of deduction working with known inputs and outcomes.

So, when you want to compare this to capturing the curvature of the earth in a given location, you must realize the total amount of inputs to deduce the correct answer is not attainable, and we end up using statistics and guesswork to fill in the blank areas. The end result is we have made many assumptions along the way and the resulting end point is a blur given which inputs were measured.

The same is said regarding the positioning of the north star with respect to our understanding of what we are seeing. So many assumed inputs are created and used to define the observation that it is now completely subjective. You have about 10,000 other inputs to resolve prior to using the one you are standing on as an example. This is not science, this is guesswork, where you reduce what you have to what you can understand and accept it.

To top it all off, we end up with claims that the reason we do not feel velocity as we orbit is made based on all the misunderstandings of how physics interact.

I think this one by itself is a clear indication that we have ended up on a tangent of nonsense, in order to accept this, we basically have to reject everything else.

For example, we claim to measure solar wind coming into the atmosphere, we claim to calculate the magnetic fields the interplanetary relationship of magnetics between earth and sun, we have devised ways to predict weather and earthquakes using solar inputs.

All of this has to be thrown in the trash to accept these beliefs that do not have any answers at all. none.

So, when we look at the carbon on the planet and we measure the difference we claim to find solar carbon and cosmic carbon, what does flat earth have to say? reject it all?

I would have to check my brain at the door in order to enter a flat earth society meetup because none of the data we have collected measured and analyzed can be accepted. This is preposterous.

At the end of the day, flat earth belief acceptance is just an escape from what we know, plasma cosmology and electric universe theory have much better explanations if you are trying to get away from the big bang.

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HonestTruth 6 points ago +6 / -0

Good of you to at least give it the old college physics professor try.

Allow me to simplify:

  • North star alignment
  • Lack of Curvature
  • Orbit Velocity

Looking past the attempted character attack in the initial portion of your musings, we are still having a clear misunderstanding of what the requirements are.

I have reduced your large amount of opinionated concepts to a few short words that are more than enough to proclaim the position of believe you stand on.

I will briefly allow you to expand on this list if you wish prior to embarking on an explanation.

I can give you a prelude and it is that is simply for each of these mere points you are speaking from subjective standpoints that are not capable of providing strong evidence to the claim at hand. In other words, a person can approach each of these with the frame of mind we have and come out with questions because we are not currently capable of providing concise answers to the problems without leaning on conjecture or modified data.

You know as well as I do that these points are specified in this way for this purpose. So that there can be oblique claims of feigned ignorance around the meaty bits that result in foggy interpretations being the only available outcome.

I have never proclaimed to have definitive proof we live on a globe, I am still looking for valid evidence in either regard, fyi.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because all the propaganda is just that, garbage talking points of belief.

If you had a list of things you used to accept the belief, then that would be a logical foundation to use to convey understanding, because this list does not exist is evidence that there is no logical foundation and just air grab assessments of information spun to present belief. It is all subjective crap.

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Always the same shit, why not a nice list in point form of what points you consider the main reasoning to believe flat earth.

Just endless garbage and videos and baseless links of imaginary thought, how fucking useless.

Go write the point form* list and post that, or fuck off.

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HonestTruth 8 points ago +8 / -0

Useful skills (in making real things) and knowledge (of how real things works) is safe heaven for money

/end thread, nothing else to add.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still in testing, this testing goes back to before there was internet web to share it fyi.

It works, providing all the parameters are met, which means it is not yet usable in war. We will not see them deployed anytime soon, there may be a couple vessels with some crappy apparatus installed that can do some stuff, pass a couple small tests.

I am ready to see it in action, been waiting. As I said, information shows that laser defense is ahead of laser development.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let me know when we have these lasers do something effective I will be happy to have a look.

From what I understand it is out of reach, we have some small ones deployed for showing how they work on 'perfect targets' but the world does not work like that.

I am of the impression lasers in warfare are a fantasy; I've not seen anything to convince me otherwise.

Russia I heard has some that will zap a satellite but I have no evidence of that, in any regard they likely have a massive power plant and are firmly attached to the ground.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry, you are still confused. many materials and coatings circumvent the capability of the laser, think reflection.

Lasers are not effective, you will need to wait for plasma weapons.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

because I can do anything about it.

Epic! what is it you do about all this stuff anyhow? :) So... Since you can do anything about it, does that not make it all your fault? I fucking knew it was those damn gringo's

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lasers

good luck hitting my laser defended missiles with your meaningless laser, don't matter, just cause you hit a thing with a laser, does not mean it has an effect.

Not to mention, mobility location range and all that lovely laser stuff.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

double post, its the same picture.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honestly, I was thankful that is all she provided, because frankly the view of this one is so off kilter, I would really think that someone needs to provide some more basis to reality in the real world for this one.

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HonestTruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Uh… I do question that.

I know it is tricky to really get a good view, especially considering all the fancy toys we see.

However, it simply comes down to missiles and there is no comparison.

All of them believe that, yeah.

Well I know this is not true, but I see what you mean by all, as in all of the others.

Good inputs

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HonestTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

I really appreciate this perspective. I agree for the most part. Sadly, Because frankly it is not a good assessment.

I don't see any options except total extermination or total isolation from the world.

This really reminds me of the way things used to be done, which is how we managed to progress for as long as we did until the great demise began, likely sometime in the late 1940's.

In any case, this shit would not be stopped until Western elites will be neutralised by whatever method. It is essential condition for the humanity survival and development, may be not sufficient, but absolutely essential.

This is the worrying part, basically due to the actions of the western elites and the subjugation they have accepted for the nations they are currently occupy, the path is clear.

I am not looking for a nice guy, or a hero, just someone who uses their head and acts according to the position they are in and not some false leadership.

I have basically lived my entire life in the west without any idea what good leadership is. As I look back I can easily identify all the incorrect actions and failures of all western leaders as they bring the decline and the domination from the khazarians to bear.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

This guy is not vaccinated at all, fake news.

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HonestTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol, shut up with your bullshit, if you have no list of points then fuck off, you are not worth anything at all.

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