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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh, shit, alright!

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Celest 4 points ago +4 / -0

logic and reason and facts are a prob for FEr's

It is amazing how you people throw these things around with so much ease.

What's a "flat earther" anyway?

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Celest 4 points ago +4 / -0

Seems to me to be going according to plan.

Also, what the fuck: https://www.reddit.com/r/BoJackHorseman/comments/vhle2t/obligatory_i_got_a_tattoo_post. I'm not even sure what's worse: her tattoo or her arm; gotta be both.

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

So the working theory is that the flatness of the earth goes off endlessly? Or that there is some end to it?

Could be either of those. Some think we live in an enclosure, a dome, while others think it spans out indefinitely. Free exploration in the South is not allowed past the 60th parallel.

Thanks for the video recommendations! I'll check them out!

Great, please do.

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Celest 4 points ago +4 / -0

I watched an in depth one on it once but I cant seem to find it anymore :(

Edit: I think its this https://www.bitchute.com/video/zwbXBctYHDTg/

I haven't watched the video yet (will do), but I recognize that guy's voice. I've seen a video of him where he phones NASA and asks about the SOFIA aircraft/Hubble telescope. He makes a very convincing argument that Hubble may have never existed and that the images we've seen may have come from SOFIA.

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Celest 3 points ago +4 / -1

I suppose those are reasonable questions given what you've been taught "flat earth" to be. However, "flat earth" doesn't just stop at the surface of the Earth, but puts under question the entire construct (which, I assume, you believe to be an ever-expanding universe with objects floating about).

I suggest you watch How Everything Works on Flat Earth or Level, which is more of a movie-style presentation. You'll find answers to your questions there, and more.

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, Del's really good at it, though I'm not too sure if approaching people on the street is the best way to go about it. I recommend you watch some of his recorded streams; he's got a sharp mind and cuts through the bullshit like no other. I think I've watched everything he's put out. 😄

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

How could it not matter? It is the foundation of our world. It is the most important thing in our experience; everything rests on it (including our very existence). What if this insane world they've conjured for us, and which they own, was conjured exactly because it matters? How could it matter more "what others think of us" than what the world actually is? Please, think again.

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's got nothing to do with the surface of the Earth per se, but all to do with the success of the psyop that's been going on for years now. Those unfamiliar with the "flat earth psyop" will label you as a "conspiracy theorist" instead, which is just as bad (and was also orchestrated by TPTB after the JFK assassination to discredit those that dared propose an alternative to the official narrative). As an exercise, just think of "conspiracy theorist" and "flat earther" as two imaginary entities. If you're anything like me, you'll perceive no difference between the two, both being just as disgraceful/demeaning/unappealing; just this alone should be a sign that something is amiss.

The "flat earth psyop" is meant to stop people from pursuing the subject and to encourage those that have been psyopped to ridicule those that dare pursue it (kinda like what you're doing here). Ridicule is their weapon of choice, and it works great.

What do I mean by the "flat earth psyop"? Well, just search YT for "flat earth" and see for yourself. Everything you encounter is a lie, and if it isn't, they'll make damn sure to mock it so that you know to stay away from it. They'll teach you how to ridicule people, regardless of what those people say; they'll teach you to believe that you have science on your side; they'll teach you to rest assured that everything's been covered for you, that they're doing great things so that you don't have to, that they have your best interest at heart. Nothing could be further from the truth, though, because what you really have on your side is a bunch of lying science priests that have used this method to inculcate the entire world from birth [and most, to grave] with an incredible lie.

None of us adhere to any of that "flat earth" crap they present you with, and we wouldn't be so insistent if we didn't know what we're talking about; why would we endure so much shit? On the other hand, you think you know how the Earth is a globe, just like all of us did, but in reality, you've never experienced anything that would indicate that. All of it rests on an intangible globe image, intangible math applied to an intangible universe, the fear of being ridiculed and your personal incredulity ("they couldn't have possibly lied to the entire world for decades/centuries!").

Do as you see fit, but I suggest you reconsider.

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Celest 7 points ago +7 / -0

8" per mile squared

That's just an approximation that is practical only for short distances (say, up to 1000 miles). None of the curvature calculators use it, AFAIK. Here's a list of some of them:

And here's a graphic that shows how the curvature is calculated.

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hah, you don't know "Professor" Dave?! You're in for a treat (comments are great, too)!

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen to that.

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

So that I can get, but underneath the earth, are objects being pulled up toward it? To the side of the earth, are objects being pulled towards it?

See, this is how the globe model forces you to pigeonhole other ideas into it. 😃

There doesn't have to be an "underneath", or "sides", such that objects could exist beneath or laterally. It could just be all that is. Again, just an idea, and this itself is only to entertain yet another one (how gravity might work on a level surface).

Or does the flatness just go on forever?

Who knows! It might just be rendered on-demand. 😉

I don't see how that motion could explain what we're observing if the motion itself doesn't have a lot to confirm how/why it's happening.

The video with the helium balloon from earlier shows what happens in an enclosure when accelerating/decelerating. That same motion could be applied to Earth, but vertically. What would cause the motion? No idea, haha.

This is not my idea, and it isn't an idea that you'll hear much about in the "FE community". It is, however, used to ridicule FE, because it sounds ridiculous when you first hear it without any context. It isn't a great appetizer, to be honest. I think this may have been the thing that turned me off of FE some years ago.

Happy to hear your recommendations though!

Cool. I recommend How Everything Works on Flat Earth (1h3m) and 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball (2h10m). These are both put together by Eric Dubay; you can find a plethora of short videos on his channel, each covering a specific topic.

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's a minor detail!

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

A little difficult to wrap my mind around how that would work though. What's causing that gravitational force to pull downward?

Earth's mass, the same thing that causes it to do that on a globe. Objects wouldn't be attracted to a sphere, but to the mass of the Earth beneath our feet (whatever shape it might be).

My question is in regards to a theory that there is something that's in motion (the entire surface of the earth) which is why I have trouble accepting it.

Oh, agreed. I don't have an explanation for it either, but such a motion could also explain what we're observing. I don't take it as fact either, just as mere possibility.

The problem though is the little explanations for phenomena that we can readily observe every day, that don't make sense on a flat earth model.

May I ask, have you watched any "flat earth" documentary (if we can call it that)? Most, if not all, phenomena have been covered by people interested in the subject. Granted, those explanations will make little sense if you perceive them through "globe glasses", but I'm sure you could take those off as an exercise. If you're interested, I could recommend some titles.

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Celest 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean, at the end of the day, you can have classic gravity on a "flat earth" as well, only that "the core" would be spread out uniformly, heh.

If there is no explanation beyond "the surface of the earth is moving upward" then I don't see how I can just accept that.

Well, sure. You could ask the same thing about gravity, e.g., "what is causing gravity to pull on things?". I'm sure they have a nonsense answer for that as well, e.g., "gravitons" or some such.

Rather, for a globe model, at least there are answers to certain questions.

Sure, but none of those are demonstrable, they just appear to fit what's happening. Every alternative I've offered could fit just as well. With enough observation, you could reverse-engineer the entire thing into something else.

These answers may not satisfy you, and that's fine, but at least there is an attempt at explanation.

The problem with gravity is that it's being used as a catch-all for things that can't be explained (e.g., vacuum/atmosphere, atmosphere dragged along with spin, bendy waters, the three body problem, thousands of satellites orbiting "in front" of the Earth as it's spinning around the Sun, etc.).

These forces don't relate to the shape of the earth, but they require explanation on a flat earth model

Sure, whatever tickles you fancy, just don't get stuck on it. There's too much evidence in favor of a "flat earth" to pitch a tent here.

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

The fuck you thinking

"Hey, I'm sure they're not all that bad! Yeah, 4 billion people vaccinated with god-knows-what, sure. But this shit? Naaaah!"

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Celest 2 points ago +3 / -1

It makes me wonder what else (history, science, religion) is also a lie that has just been repeated so often that people have adopted it as truth?

The shape of the Earth has entered the chat.

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

To the masses, nothing happens in the world unless it is stated by an "official".

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Celest 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh, alright, I see your point.

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