I mean, at the end of the day, you can have classic gravity on a "flat earth" as well, only that "the core" would be spread out uniformly, heh.
If there is no explanation beyond "the surface of the earth is moving upward" then I don't see how I can just accept that.
Well, sure. You could ask the same thing about gravity, e.g., "what is causing gravity to pull on things?". I'm sure they have a nonsense answer for that as well, e.g., "gravitons" or some such.
Rather, for a globe model, at least there are answers to certain questions.
Sure, but none of those are demonstrable, they just appear to fit what's happening. Every alternative I've offered could fit just as well. With enough observation, you could reverse-engineer the entire thing into something else.
These answers may not satisfy you, and that's fine, but at least there is an attempt at explanation.
The problem with gravity is that it's being used as a catch-all for things that can't be explained (e.g., vacuum/atmosphere, atmosphere dragged along with spin, bendy waters, the three body problem, thousands of satellites orbiting "in front" of the Earth as it's spinning around the Sun, etc.).
These forces don't relate to the shape of the earth, but they require explanation on a flat earth model
Sure, whatever tickles you fancy, just don't get stuck on it. There's too much evidence in favor of a "flat earth" to pitch a tent here.
I mean, at the end of the day, you can have classic gravity on a "flat earth" as well, only that "the core" would be spread out uniformly, heh.
A little difficult to wrap my mind around how that would work though. What's causing that gravitational force to pull downward?
Well, sure. You could ask the same thing about gravity, e.g., "what is causing gravity to pull on things?". I'm sure they have a nonsense answer for that as well, e.g., "gravitons" or some such.
Not exactly. My question is in regards to a theory that there is something that's in motion (the entire surface of the earth). So far, there is no explanation as to the why or how it is moving in such a direction at such a rapid pace, which is why I have trouble accepting it.
There's too much evidence in favor of a "flat earth" to pinch a tent here.
The problem though is the little explanations for phenomena that we can readily observe every day, that don't make sense on a flat earth model.
A little difficult to wrap my mind around how that would work though. What's causing that gravitational force to pull downward?
Earth's mass, the same thing that causes it to do that on a globe. Objects wouldn't be attracted to a sphere, but to the mass of the Earth beneath our feet (whatever shape it might be).
My question is in regards to a theory that there is something that's in motion (the entire surface of the earth)
which is why I have trouble accepting it.
Oh, agreed. I don't have an explanation for it either, but such a motion could also explain what we're observing. I don't take it as fact either, just as mere possibility.
The problem though is the little explanations for phenomena that we can readily observe every day, that don't make sense on a flat earth model.
May I ask, have you watched any "flat earth" documentary (if we can call it that)? Most, if not all, phenomena have been covered by people interested in the subject. Granted, those explanations will make little sense if you perceive them through "globe glasses", but I'm sure you could take those off as an exercise. If you're interested, I could recommend some titles.
Earth's mass, the same thing that causes it to do that on a globe. Objects wouldn't be attracted to a sphere, but to the mass of the Earth beneath our feet (whatever shape it might be).
So that I can get, but underneath the earth, are objects being pulled up toward it? To the side of the earth, are objects being pulled towards it? The mass pulls things down, but logically the earth must have a stopping point. Or does the flatness just go on forever?
Oh, agreed. I don't have an explanation for it either, but such a motion could also explain what we're observing. I don't take it as fact either, just as mere possibility.
I don't see how that motion could explain what we're observing if the motion itself doesn't have a lot to confirm how/why it's happening.
May I ask, have you watched any "flat earth" documentary (if we can call it that)? Most, if not all, phenomena have been covered by people interested in the subject. Granted, those explanations will make little sense if you perceive them through "globe glasses", but I'm sure you could take those off as an exercise. If you're interested, I could recommend some titles.
I've seen a couple. Happy to hear your recommendations though!
So that I can get, but underneath the earth, are objects being pulled up toward it? To the side of the earth, are objects being pulled towards it?
See, this is how the globe model forces you to pigeonhole other ideas into it. 😃
There doesn't have to be an "underneath", or "sides", such that objects could exist beneath or laterally. It could just be all that is. Again, just an idea, and this itself is only to entertain yet another one (how gravity might work on a level surface).
Or does the flatness just go on forever?
Who knows! It might just be rendered on-demand. 😉
I don't see how that motion could explain what we're observing if the motion itself doesn't have a lot to confirm how/why it's happening.
The video with the helium balloon from earlier shows what happens in an enclosure when accelerating/decelerating. That same motion could be applied to Earth, but vertically. What would cause the motion? No idea, haha.
This is not my idea, and it isn't an idea that you'll hear much about in the "FE community". It is, however, used to ridicule FE, because it sounds ridiculous when you first hear it without any context. It isn't a great appetizer, to be honest. I think this may have been the thing that turned me off of FE some years ago.
I mean, at the end of the day, you can have classic gravity on a "flat earth" as well, only that "the core" would be spread out uniformly, heh.
Well, sure. You could ask the same thing about gravity, e.g., "what is causing gravity to pull on things?". I'm sure they have a nonsense answer for that as well, e.g., "gravitons" or some such.
Sure, but none of those are demonstrable, they just appear to fit what's happening. Every alternative I've offered could fit just as well. With enough observation, you could reverse-engineer the entire thing into something else.
The problem with gravity is that it's being used as a catch-all for things that can't be explained (e.g., vacuum/atmosphere, atmosphere dragged along with spin, bendy waters, the three body problem, thousands of satellites orbiting "in front" of the Earth as it's spinning around the Sun, etc.).
Sure, whatever tickles you fancy, just don't get stuck on it. There's too much evidence in favor of a "flat earth" to pitch a tent here.
A little difficult to wrap my mind around how that would work though. What's causing that gravitational force to pull downward?
Not exactly. My question is in regards to a theory that there is something that's in motion (the entire surface of the earth). So far, there is no explanation as to the why or how it is moving in such a direction at such a rapid pace, which is why I have trouble accepting it.
The problem though is the little explanations for phenomena that we can readily observe every day, that don't make sense on a flat earth model.
Earth's mass, the same thing that causes it to do that on a globe. Objects wouldn't be attracted to a sphere, but to the mass of the Earth beneath our feet (whatever shape it might be).
Oh, agreed. I don't have an explanation for it either, but such a motion could also explain what we're observing. I don't take it as fact either, just as mere possibility.
May I ask, have you watched any "flat earth" documentary (if we can call it that)? Most, if not all, phenomena have been covered by people interested in the subject. Granted, those explanations will make little sense if you perceive them through "globe glasses", but I'm sure you could take those off as an exercise. If you're interested, I could recommend some titles.
So that I can get, but underneath the earth, are objects being pulled up toward it? To the side of the earth, are objects being pulled towards it? The mass pulls things down, but logically the earth must have a stopping point. Or does the flatness just go on forever?
I don't see how that motion could explain what we're observing if the motion itself doesn't have a lot to confirm how/why it's happening.
I've seen a couple. Happy to hear your recommendations though!
See, this is how the globe model forces you to pigeonhole other ideas into it. 😃
There doesn't have to be an "underneath", or "sides", such that objects could exist beneath or laterally. It could just be all that is. Again, just an idea, and this itself is only to entertain yet another one (how gravity might work on a level surface).
Who knows! It might just be rendered on-demand. 😉
The video with the helium balloon from earlier shows what happens in an enclosure when accelerating/decelerating. That same motion could be applied to Earth, but vertically. What would cause the motion? No idea, haha.
This is not my idea, and it isn't an idea that you'll hear much about in the "FE community". It is, however, used to ridicule FE, because it sounds ridiculous when you first hear it without any context. It isn't a great appetizer, to be honest. I think this may have been the thing that turned me off of FE some years ago.
Cool. I recommend How Everything Works on Flat Earth (1h3m) and 200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball (2h10m). These are both put together by Eric Dubay; you can find a plethora of short videos on his channel, each covering a specific topic.