The truths that each religion share are hidden by cultural differences and revealed by examination. 'Satanist' religion would apply to any and all that work by material magic ritual rather than expounding on principles.
That's exactly my point. Like I said already, keep researching, you will get there.
Every satanic religion is based on duality. Darkness is in light, as much as light is in darkness. Nothing could exist without the other.
Every satanic religion is worshiping something material. Most popular are the planetary bodies, some worship trees, others flowers, colors, and fragrances. It's all the same when you realize that the planetary bodies are referenced as metals, materials, colors, etc.
Every satanic religion seeks to exalt the self, the ego... as if there is some higher self that just waits to be unlocked... and you can do it by your own free will. 6000 years of written history and all kingdoms based on such religion have collapsed into dust. How much longer for you to understand that the oldest lie from the snake is just that - a lie... What did the snake say in the garden of Eden? "Eat from the fruit of the tree of good and evil, and your 2 eyes will be opened" (I rephrased it to match your suitable username, I hope you don't mind)
In contrast, it is only Christianity that exposes those false religions. And it has done so for over 2000 years before you, or I, even existed. What are the odds for that?
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." - Matthew 6:24 // Duality is impossible.
"They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen." - Romans 1:25 // Created things shouldn't be worshiped.
I already mentioned the snake... but what about this quote?
You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.[a]
I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.” - Isaiah 14:13-14
Do you know who said this?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Notice even our conversation. While you speak without defending arguments, without certain confirmation of your words, lacking concrete evidence... I offer you evidence, knowledge, and understanding. And that is also from the Bible:
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8:44
That is because I was also enchanted by other religions and beliefs, but I studied them, I studied them for many, many years. Is it not evident that I can show you the connections between more religions than you know? And I am not even revealing 1% of the actual knowledge, yet it is still enough to reveal that any other religion, and belief, is connected with each other, while directly opposed only to Christianity.
Your knowledge would flourish, if you study Christianity, not go the Zeitgeist road of telling lies about it. Do you know that Zeitgeist had a site, which was taken down after so many people contacted them with evidence of their lies? Here's all the information you need about Zeitgeist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X52buFJ0BOs but researching more and more is always allowed. You know truth doesn't fear research, right?
But I appreciate a good debate. If you have any questions, I hope I can answer them. If you have any doubts still, keep researching - I have done a lot of research myself, so I can possibly help you along the way. It's better to have 2 eyes open instead of eyes wide shut, wouldn't you agree?
You assume way too much (little) about my background on the subject. I appreciate a good discussion over debate every single time. Claims about having knowledge isn't knowledge. It's a claim about claims.
Reveal this to me: What distinguishes a gnostic from an agnostic christian?
Is your answer one that contains knowledge from gnostic sources or false assumptions from their critics? A good researcher considers all relevant points.
Youtube videos aren't what I'd call research just so you know.
I've not been given knowledge or understanding by your statements only platitudes claiming to show 'only 1 percent (?)'.
Q: Who/what is 'the 99' to be left and who/what is 'the one' to be found?
I watched the sophomoric "Zeitgeist" video. Now read this and get back to me.
You're a lifetime scholar, so I know you won't 'cheat' and pretend to have read and then critique with ignorance. That's not what OG researchers do, wouldn't you agree?
I don't know how you appreciate a good discussion over a debate, when you're clearly debating, not discussing. :(
"Reveal this to me: What distinguishes a gnostic from an agnostic christian?"
Nothing. They are both heretics. Do you want me to give you more information on that?
"Is your answer one that contains knowledge from gnostic sources or false assumptions from their critics? A good researcher considers all relevant points."
Now who is assuming incorrectly? :D Sorry, I only quoted this to point out that your assumption was clearly incorrect. It's because you started your reply with "you assume way too much (little) about my background"... I just thought it's a great example of irony to quote your statement, I hope you don't mind.
"Youtube videos aren't what I'd call research just so you know."
Well, documentaries are a better source of research than books, since books cannot deliver visual evidence as video documentaries can. :(
"Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher."
I love the irony in this one. :D A student is not the one, who defines the teacher. You didn't know that? I hope you're a fan of irony tho, because it's hilarious. "You have to study this, afterwards I will call you a teacher"... That doesn't even make sense... :D Aren't you the teacher, if you give me something to study? :D Aren't you a failed student, if you can't give arguments from a book you supposedly read? :D Hilarious.
Oh, sorry... Your entire argument is not an argument but you want me to read a book? Surely, you can present arguments from the book, that you've read, and we can discuss those.
...................
I am reminded of a sentence I wrote in my previous comment:
"Notice even our conversation. While you speak without defending arguments, without certain confirmation of your words, lacking concrete evidence... I offer you evidence, knowledge, and understanding."
Did you read it?
It's not entertaining to always fall for the same trap. Either you can defend your position, or you will dodge my points. As you can see, I find it hilarious whenever you dodge the main points... How is that working well for anyone?
Please excuse me... I am so used to your way of thinking that my only solution is to find the fun things in it, otherwise it would just bore me to death. I hope you understand.
Platitudes ABOUT knowledge is not knowledge. It doesn't relay knowledge. A platitude is a pretense of wisdom, not actual information that might prove or disprove. I offer information as proof, you offer platitudes. I hope you can grasp the difference and go back and confirm for yourself if you need it.
0 Facts. That's a zero. It didn't exist in every numeric system. Somehow, certain primitives never 'got' the concept, just as most modern man doesn't truly appreciate the difference between 1 and 0 while depending on it daily.
Knowledge sure is relevant. So are the words 'research' and 'study' and 'lifelong'. Statements show position to the ascendant party every single time. You don't have the tools my fren, bow out gracefully now or risk getting red-pilled with a plethora of things you never knew. That to a real truth seeker, would be read as a positive invitation worth investigating.
As per your quote: "Well, documentaries are a better source of research than books, since books cannot deliver visual evidence as video documentaries can."
Okay. So you teach that books don't have pictures and drawings?
Re: My quote "Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher."
A teacher. Not MY teacher. Worthy of being a teacher. A teacher. Not MY teacher. Unless of course you could indeed find fault and/or critique said book you didn't even attempt to read but will pretend it doesn't matter. Teachers don't teach through ignor-ance.
Re: " am so used to your way of thinking that my only solution is to find the fun things in it"
I don't have a 'way of thinking' and if I did, you wouldn't be 'used to it' just as you are ignorant of the current subject. You speak in a childish manner that should be embarrassing and will be as you go along.
I want you to give me ALL the information ABOUT gnosis that you can find, especially using gnostics as source since of course they'd know wtf they're talking about. At least some. Gnosis comes in many colors just like the coat that Joseph got as reward for being able to critique his literalist cousins' theology, separated him from his courser literalistic brothers and allowed him to interpret the Pharoah's dreams (see psychology)
How's the reading coming, pretty good?
Please help me out with this: In Greece, prior to the Christian Era, there was a word IHEOYE that translated into 'Jesus' in another language and in the system called gematria, transfigures into the number '888'. Interestingly, both the names spelling makes '888'. Questions to the teacher: Why?
Why 888? Why did the Greeks have an apriory (came first) 'Jesus' in the first place? What was the Logos in Greek symbology and why did it also share the number 888?
Why and how did Clement know that in music tuning theory, that .888 was considered both the logos/ratio of the whole tone, but also acted as the 'mediator' between the two tetrachords of the octave? Or why the 'octave' was 'the ogdoad' to the Essenic Gnostics from which came the Nazarites from which came the historic Jesus you call heretic.
Yes, prior to the later Christian Era of Romish Catholic Crestianity, Clement referred in a book, not a Tik-Tok video, that the newly emerging 'Christianity' was 'The New Song' of the eternal Logos, a new spiritual expression of the pre-existing pattern of harmony upon which all of creation is based. How did he do that and what are those patterns? Help me out here. How did the gods and numbers and letters all get their names and how and why do they inter-correspond with ideation? What are the angels and daemons names and why is it the same with them? What's up with that?
Early Christian gnostics who saw the city's temple priests as Hellenic overseer usurpers of the priesthood and literalists as 'seekers after smooth things', the people who could write and did write the laws on copper scrolls, referred to Jesus as/ 'the plenitude of the ogdoads' or 'Fullness of the Eights'. Of that, Church Father Iraneus states, "Jesus is a name arithmetically symbolical, consisting of six letters, which known by all those that belong to the called."
The ogdoad 'contained in himself the entire number of the 'elements/letters (stoicheia) which are gematric equivalents also.
And so one of us was 'called' to discover this and 99 percent more :)...... and one was not.
Read the little pdf file, as OG lifelong researcher.....and discover things you never knew or maybe can even imagine.
Try harder, you can get there. I would have never put it like that, but you did it first as a false pretense.
Oh, one more thing. I don't subscribe as 'A gnostic' as I'm not limited to that theology's cultural expression. Not knowing which 'bucket' to ad hoc a person into, you're forced to address issues.....with informational answers to questions.....but won't, because you don't know them, and refuse to go find. Seek and ye shall find. Leave the 99 to find the One as completion.
The truths that each religion share are hidden by cultural differences and revealed by examination. 'Satanist' religion would apply to any and all that work by material magic ritual rather than expounding on principles.
That's exactly my point. Like I said already, keep researching, you will get there.
Every satanic religion is based on duality. Darkness is in light, as much as light is in darkness. Nothing could exist without the other.
Every satanic religion is worshiping something material. Most popular are the planetary bodies, some worship trees, others flowers, colors, and fragrances. It's all the same when you realize that the planetary bodies are referenced as metals, materials, colors, etc.
Every satanic religion seeks to exalt the self, the ego... as if there is some higher self that just waits to be unlocked... and you can do it by your own free will. 6000 years of written history and all kingdoms based on such religion have collapsed into dust. How much longer for you to understand that the oldest lie from the snake is just that - a lie... What did the snake say in the garden of Eden? "Eat from the fruit of the tree of good and evil, and your 2 eyes will be opened" (I rephrased it to match your suitable username, I hope you don't mind)
In contrast, it is only Christianity that exposes those false religions. And it has done so for over 2000 years before you, or I, even existed. What are the odds for that?
“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." - Matthew 6:24 // Duality is impossible.
"They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen." - Romans 1:25 // Created things shouldn't be worshiped.
I already mentioned the snake... but what about this quote?
You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.[a] I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” - Isaiah 14:13-14
Do you know who said this?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Notice even our conversation. While you speak without defending arguments, without certain confirmation of your words, lacking concrete evidence... I offer you evidence, knowledge, and understanding. And that is also from the Bible:
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." - John 8:44
That is because I was also enchanted by other religions and beliefs, but I studied them, I studied them for many, many years. Is it not evident that I can show you the connections between more religions than you know? And I am not even revealing 1% of the actual knowledge, yet it is still enough to reveal that any other religion, and belief, is connected with each other, while directly opposed only to Christianity.
Your knowledge would flourish, if you study Christianity, not go the Zeitgeist road of telling lies about it. Do you know that Zeitgeist had a site, which was taken down after so many people contacted them with evidence of their lies? Here's all the information you need about Zeitgeist - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X52buFJ0BOs but researching more and more is always allowed. You know truth doesn't fear research, right?
But I appreciate a good debate. If you have any questions, I hope I can answer them. If you have any doubts still, keep researching - I have done a lot of research myself, so I can possibly help you along the way. It's better to have 2 eyes open instead of eyes wide shut, wouldn't you agree?
You assume way too much (little) about my background on the subject. I appreciate a good discussion over debate every single time. Claims about having knowledge isn't knowledge. It's a claim about claims.
Reveal this to me: What distinguishes a gnostic from an agnostic christian?
Is your answer one that contains knowledge from gnostic sources or false assumptions from their critics? A good researcher considers all relevant points.
Youtube videos aren't what I'd call research just so you know.
I've not been given knowledge or understanding by your statements only platitudes claiming to show 'only 1 percent (?)'.
Q: Who/what is 'the 99' to be left and who/what is 'the one' to be found?
I watched the sophomoric "Zeitgeist" video. Now read this and get back to me.
You're a lifetime scholar, so I know you won't 'cheat' and pretend to have read and then critique with ignorance. That's not what OG researchers do, wouldn't you agree?
https://kupdf.net/download/jesus-christ-sun-of-god-ancient-cosmology-and-early-christian-symbolism-by-david-r-fideler-ocr_58a100e36454a7335db1eb87_pdf
Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher.
I don't know how you appreciate a good discussion over a debate, when you're clearly debating, not discussing. :(
Nothing. They are both heretics. Do you want me to give you more information on that?
Now who is assuming incorrectly? :D Sorry, I only quoted this to point out that your assumption was clearly incorrect. It's because you started your reply with "you assume way too much (little) about my background"... I just thought it's a great example of irony to quote your statement, I hope you don't mind.
Well, documentaries are a better source of research than books, since books cannot deliver visual evidence as video documentaries can. :(
I love the irony in this one. :D A student is not the one, who defines the teacher. You didn't know that? I hope you're a fan of irony tho, because it's hilarious. "You have to study this, afterwards I will call you a teacher"... That doesn't even make sense... :D Aren't you the teacher, if you give me something to study? :D Aren't you a failed student, if you can't give arguments from a book you supposedly read? :D Hilarious.
Oh, sorry... Your entire argument is not an argument but you want me to read a book? Surely, you can present arguments from the book, that you've read, and we can discuss those.
...................
I am reminded of a sentence I wrote in my previous comment:
Did you read it?
It's not entertaining to always fall for the same trap. Either you can defend your position, or you will dodge my points. As you can see, I find it hilarious whenever you dodge the main points... How is that working well for anyone?
Please excuse me... I am so used to your way of thinking that my only solution is to find the fun things in it, otherwise it would just bore me to death. I hope you understand.
Platitudes ABOUT knowledge is not knowledge. It doesn't relay knowledge. A platitude is a pretense of wisdom, not actual information that might prove or disprove. I offer information as proof, you offer platitudes. I hope you can grasp the difference and go back and confirm for yourself if you need it. 0 Facts. That's a zero. It didn't exist in every numeric system. Somehow, certain primitives never 'got' the concept, just as most modern man doesn't truly appreciate the difference between 1 and 0 while depending on it daily. Knowledge sure is relevant. So are the words 'research' and 'study' and 'lifelong'. Statements show position to the ascendant party every single time. You don't have the tools my fren, bow out gracefully now or risk getting red-pilled with a plethora of things you never knew. That to a real truth seeker, would be read as a positive invitation worth investigating.
As per your quote: "Well, documentaries are a better source of research than books, since books cannot deliver visual evidence as video documentaries can."
Okay. So you teach that books don't have pictures and drawings?
Re: My quote "Critique that book for me and I'll consider you a teacher."
A teacher. Not MY teacher. Worthy of being a teacher. A teacher. Not MY teacher. Unless of course you could indeed find fault and/or critique said book you didn't even attempt to read but will pretend it doesn't matter. Teachers don't teach through ignor-ance.
Re: " am so used to your way of thinking that my only solution is to find the fun things in it"
I don't have a 'way of thinking' and if I did, you wouldn't be 'used to it' just as you are ignorant of the current subject. You speak in a childish manner that should be embarrassing and will be as you go along.
I want you to give me ALL the information ABOUT gnosis that you can find, especially using gnostics as source since of course they'd know wtf they're talking about. At least some. Gnosis comes in many colors just like the coat that Joseph got as reward for being able to critique his literalist cousins' theology, separated him from his courser literalistic brothers and allowed him to interpret the Pharoah's dreams (see psychology)
How's the reading coming, pretty good?
Please help me out with this: In Greece, prior to the Christian Era, there was a word IHEOYE that translated into 'Jesus' in another language and in the system called gematria, transfigures into the number '888'. Interestingly, both the names spelling makes '888'. Questions to the teacher: Why? Why 888? Why did the Greeks have an apriory (came first) 'Jesus' in the first place? What was the Logos in Greek symbology and why did it also share the number 888? Why and how did Clement know that in music tuning theory, that .888 was considered both the logos/ratio of the whole tone, but also acted as the 'mediator' between the two tetrachords of the octave? Or why the 'octave' was 'the ogdoad' to the Essenic Gnostics from which came the Nazarites from which came the historic Jesus you call heretic. Yes, prior to the later Christian Era of Romish Catholic Crestianity, Clement referred in a book, not a Tik-Tok video, that the newly emerging 'Christianity' was 'The New Song' of the eternal Logos, a new spiritual expression of the pre-existing pattern of harmony upon which all of creation is based. How did he do that and what are those patterns? Help me out here. How did the gods and numbers and letters all get their names and how and why do they inter-correspond with ideation? What are the angels and daemons names and why is it the same with them? What's up with that?
Early Christian gnostics who saw the city's temple priests as Hellenic overseer usurpers of the priesthood and literalists as 'seekers after smooth things', the people who could write and did write the laws on copper scrolls, referred to Jesus as/ 'the plenitude of the ogdoads' or 'Fullness of the Eights'. Of that, Church Father Iraneus states, "Jesus is a name arithmetically symbolical, consisting of six letters, which known by all those that belong to the called."
The ogdoad 'contained in himself the entire number of the 'elements/letters (stoicheia) which are gematric equivalents also.
And so one of us was 'called' to discover this and 99 percent more :)...... and one was not.
Read the little pdf file, as OG lifelong researcher.....and discover things you never knew or maybe can even imagine.
Try harder, you can get there. I would have never put it like that, but you did it first as a false pretense.
Oh, one more thing. I don't subscribe as 'A gnostic' as I'm not limited to that theology's cultural expression. Not knowing which 'bucket' to ad hoc a person into, you're forced to address issues.....with informational answers to questions.....but won't, because you don't know them, and refuse to go find. Seek and ye shall find. Leave the 99 to find the One as completion.
So be it. Amen = 99/completion