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Just here on Easter to remind you that Jesus was a real historical figure (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 2 days ago by Mad_King_Kalak 2 days ago by Mad_King_Kalak +36 / -0
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– CriticalObjective 2 points 16 hours ago +2 / -0

There were Messiahs all over the place in those times

And probably there are many today. But, It's not what I'm talking about.

Even today, in the US, at any given time, there are multiple people claiming to be the Messiah, a prophet, whatever

Again, I'm pretty sure you are correct, but you are talking about something completely different.

Messiah is the Hebrew term mashiach, meaning "the anointed one," referring to a savior or liberator chosen by God to restore a group of people. This is something that the Jews have made up. And Christians adopted. In Christianity Jesus of Nazareth is believed to be the Messiah who fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies. But, IMO this is just a made up story. God, and I happen to believe there is one, I call him pure consciousness, has never chosen anyone, an individual human being, and never will. This God has chosen to create Humanity, and for that purpose he chose all 8 billion of us. We're all his sons and daughters, whoever says otherwise is only trying to divide us. The divine spark is the portion of the true, transcendent God (pure consciousness) that resides within each human being, trapped within the material world we are born in.

All you have to do is recognize the portion of God that resides within each one of us (within yourself), the inner divine spark, and connect. Once you do that then you become a Christ, or a Messiah, which is nothing more than a title. Jesus is just a name, just like yours may be Michael or John, but it's not who he or you are. You are a divine spark (a small portion of the infinite consciousness) temporarily housed in a material body. I hope you now understand what I meant by "many Jesuses".

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– SwampRangers 1 point 14 hours ago +1 / -0

So universalism? Sympathy for the devil? Where do you put this forum's favorite despots and tyrants when they die, are they Jesuses?

I appreciate your saying it's your opinion because I have relative respect for universalists who don't insist on everyone else agreeing with them. (Kinda defeats the argument of universalism to believe that some argument is necessary to get others to agree with you if you believe they will already.)

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– CriticalObjective 2 points 12 hours ago +2 / -0

I have relative respect for universalists who don't insist on everyone else agreeing with them

I wouldn't call myself a universalist, but I can see where you're coming from. And you're not wrong. And likewise I'm fine with other people having a different opinion. I do hold the belief that every person will ultimately enter heaven, e.g. achieve Christ consciousness. It may take thousands of lifetimes, but that's end result. I'm sure a loving God would not condemn anyone to eternal torment.

Sympathy for the devil?

No idea what you mean by this.

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– SwampRangers 1 point 12 hours ago +1 / -0

Thanks Critical.

If there are sentient spirit beings, will they too enter heaven, even if they're as bad as the Biblical devil?

Will the worst tyrants turn into perfect people in time, so that in a million years you might laugh in the heavens with someone who literally killed 10 million people (or billions over many lifetimes) about how (s)he doesn't deserve any punishment for that (and what does that mean for morality today)?

If you believe in reincarnation, have you considered the differences between gilgul, metempsychosis, and transmigration, and come down on a definitive position of the interim time, the nature of memory and amnesia, and the relationship of souls and oversouls?

Is there perhaps a time when a person's freewill has the power to "lock in" the desire to reject good and morality forever, or is a person not free to lock that desire in because such desire will always be thwarted sooner or later?

Things to think about.

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– CriticalObjective 1 point 9 hours ago +1 / -0

Things to think about.

I don't and I won't. But, if you choose to think about, then good on you.

have you considered the differences between gilgul, metempsychosis, and transmigration

No, I haven't... and don't plan to consider it in the future. I choose to focus on my own journey and how to connect with pure consciousness. If you wish to call me selfish I wouldn't be upset with you.

is a person not free to lock that desire in because such desire will always be thwarted sooner or later?

Maybe you think too much. But, again if that's want you want to do, by all means do it.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 2 hours ago +1 / -0

You are a divine spark

Basic bitch Kabbalah mixed with Eastern mysticism ("we're all One, dude - this world and all distinctions are an illusion") dressed up as new age and you gobbled that up like a good goy.

Isn't it curious how well this belief aligns with the fake and gay NWO - we're all one and need to unite into a one world government with one world religion, no borders or distinctions, sacrifice personhood to collectivism, reality is illusion... Do you now understand why the socialist League of Nations and later UN was pushed by the theosophic (new age) society? Or why Eastern mysticism and new age ideas have seeped in pop culture especially since the 60's social revolution? Do you begin to connect the dots?

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