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Templar crosses. An expression of papal loyalty. (media.scored.co)
posted 2 days ago by TurnToGodNow 2 days ago by TurnToGodNow +15 / -4
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– harzkp813 1 point 16 hours ago +1 / -0

Did Paul believe in the talmud? Did Paul abuse chickens? Did he clip coins? Did he bow to moloch and baal? Did he wear the star of "david"? Did he cry victim all the time? Did he want mass immigration and LGTBBQ and trans and pron? Did he push miscegnation? Was he pro-usury?

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– Agent_86 2 points 15 hours ago +2 / -0

HARZKP813 you said...

Did Paul the Apostle believe the Talmud? No. The Talmud did not exist yet. Paul lived in the first century. The Mishnah was compiled around 200 AD and the Talmud centuries after that.

Did Paul abuse chickens? No. That accusation comes from much later polemics and rituals that appeared long after the first century. It has nothing to do with Paul.

Did he clip coins? No. Coin clipping was a medieval crime where people shaved precious metal from coins. Historically it was often Christians who were caught and punished for it. In medieval England many of the people prosecuted for coin clipping were Christians, even though Jews were often scapegoated for the crime. None of that has anything to do with a first-century Jew like Paul.

Did Paul bow to Molech or Baal? No. Paul explicitly condemned idolatry.

Romans 1:22–23 (Amplified Bible) “Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God for an image [worthless idols] in the shape of mortal man and birds and four-footed animals and reptiles.”

The Greek word used for idolatry is εἰδωλολατρία (eidōlolatria), meaning the worship of idols.

Did he wear the “Star of David”? No. That symbol did not become widely associated with Jewish identity until the medieval period, more than a thousand years after Paul lived.

Did Paul “cry victim”? No. Paul openly identified himself as Jewish while following Yeshua.

Romans 11:1 (Amplified Bible) “I say then, has God rejected and disowned His people? Certainly not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

The Greek word he uses is Ἰσραηλίτης (Israēlitēs), meaning a member of Israel.

Did Paul push mass immigration, LGBT ideology, or modern political movements? No. Those are modern issues. Paul’s letters deal with first-century questions like circumcision, Torah observance, and Gentiles being grafted into Israel.

Did he push miscegenation? No. Paul spoke about unity of Jews and Gentiles in the Messiah, not modern racial categories.

Was he pro-usury? No. Paul taught believers to live honestly and not exploit others.

AND PAUL GIVES A DIRECT WARNING TO GENTILES WHO START RAILING AGAINST JEWS.

AND PAUL GIVES A DIRECT WARNING TO GENTILES WHO START RAILING AGAINST JEWS.

AND PAUL GIVES A DIRECT WARNING TO GENTILES WHO START RAILING AGAINST JEWS.

Romans 11:17–18 (Amplified Bible) “But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive [shoot], were grafted in among them… do not boast against the branches… it is not you who supports the root, but the root that supports you.”

The Greek word sir for root is ῥίζα (rhiza), meaning the source or origin. LOOK IT UP!!

So every accusation you listed either comes from a completely different historical period or has nothing to do with what Paul actually taught. Enjoy your day.

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– harzkp813 1 point 14 hours ago +1 / -0

No. The talMUD did not exist yet.

So that means Paul was not a Modern Jew.

It (chicken abuse) has nothing to do with Paul

Precisely.

prosecuted for coin clipping were Christians

Nope. "Judeo"-christians, mabye.

Paul explicitly condemned idolatry.

Precisely. He also wasn't greedy, hostile, cracking down on as much criticism as he could, or always angry.

while following Yeshua

Which people like Netanyahu clearly do not.

His people?

God's people are anyone who follows Christ, aren't they?

descendant of Abraham

There is no temple so there are no records. Good luck tracing the kippahmen's lineage.

member of Israel

Not a member of 1948 isntreal which was created by THE GLOBALIST SATANIST ELITE U.N.

It is insane how people will rail on the U.N. all day but yet support IsFake.

modern issues

Like how 1948 U.N.real is modern. 1948 Isreal is Unreal!

Did he push miscegenation? No. Paul spoke about unity of Jews and Gentiles in the Messiah, not modern racial categories.

Precisely.

Was he pro-usury? No. Paul taught believers to live honestly and not exploit others.

True.

A DIRECT WARNING TO GENTILES WHO START RAILING AGAINST JEWS.

So no one anywhere can ever criticize the ((()))', because you extrapolate a passage about Abram to these modern day fakes with no established lineage?

Romans 11:17–18 (Amplified Bible) “But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, a wild olive [shoot], were grafted in among them… do not boast against the branches… it is not you who supports the root, but the root that supports you.” The Greek word sir for root is ῥίζα (rhiza), meaning the source or origin. LOOK IT UP!!

That's only talking about Hebrews. About OT believers in God. Not these new impostors seeking cover under a claim to the OT faith.

Enjoy your day.

You too!

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– Agent_86 2 points 15 hours ago +2 / -0

HARZKP813 you seem confused.

That list you threw out is just a stack of old stereotypes that fall apart the moment you look at reality.

Jews do not “believe the Talmud over everything.” Most Jews today are secular and many do not even study it.

“Clipping coins” is a medieval myth that got attached to Jews even though the people actually caught doing it in Europe were often Christians.

The “Star of David” is just a cultural symbol that became common centuries after the biblical period.

Accusing Jews of worshipping Baal or Molech is nonsense. Judaism is strictly monotheistic and has condemned those idols for thousands of years.

The idea that Jews are pushing modern Western political movements like LGBT activism, mass immigration, or anything else as some unified agenda is just conspiracy thinking. Jews are politically all over the spectrum like any other population.

And the usury stereotype exists because medieval laws often banned Christians from lending money with interest while allowing Jews to do certain financial jobs. That created resentment and myths that stuck around long after the laws disappeared.

So the list you posted is not evidence of anything. It is just recycled accusations that have been floating around for centuries.

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– harzkp813 0 points 15 hours ago +1 / -1

old stereotypes

Okay, what about (((their))) stereotypes about goys, then?

believe the talmud over everything

I did not say "over everything". If I say a buddhist believes in a buddhist text, that doesn't mean he believes it "over everything".

are secular

Exactly. You have just made a great point. So there is no reason for Christians, let alone Trump, to cave to their every second demand. And it's well known they are fiercely nepotistic and them-first.

medieval myth

Believed what jEWs said about his ancestors award. "The Christkillers are more trustworthy than everyone else!"

often Christians

Imagine undermining your own faith in support of people who view you as goyim (cattle). How many statues of WW1 and WW2 veterans are there in holocost museums? In Israel? What's Israel's policy on blacks or indians marrying Jews?

baal or moloch

Even the OT "Jews" (really, Hebrews) kept falling for them. How much more that has increased after 70 A.D.

strictly monotheistic

Again, confusing Hebrews with "Jews".

condemned

I haven't seen any condemnation or denouncement from (((them))) since after 70 A.D.

idea that Jews are pushing modern Western political movements like LG

The powerful ones who could effect real change did that, yeah.

just conspiracy thinking

That's establishment, mainstream-freindly naive thinking.

Don't you think if the goobernment lies about Covid, 911, Iraq, among other things, why can't it ever be wrong about ((()))s?

unified agenda

A depressingly large amount are in favor of it. The others don't care or are ignorant about it. This argument is no different from the "Not All Mozlems" argument.

all over the spectrum

Didn't say otherwise. Fact: More jEWs voted for cameltoe HairyHass than Trump in 2024.

medieval laws often banned Christians

That double standard was unjust and should never have happened, then. Also there is still usury today.

floated around for centuries

Because they were true, not myths. I thought "truth lasted"?

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– Agent_86 2 points 14 hours ago +2 / -0

HARZKP813

You are jumping between centuries, stereotypes, and modern politics and pretending it is one continuous argument. It is not.

First, the “Christkiller” accusation. The New Testament itself does not support blaming an entire people. Yeshua was executed by Roman authority under Pontius Pilate. Historically that is how crucifixion worked. Rome carried it out.

Second, the idea that Jews today secretly worship Baal or Molech. That accusation makes no sense when applied to Judaism. Judaism has been strictly monotheistic for thousands of years and explicitly condemns those idols. The Hebrew Scriptures repeatedly condemn Molech worship as abomination.

Third, the coin clipping stereotype. That crime shows up in medieval Europe. Court records from England and other kingdoms show large numbers of Christians prosecuted for it. Yet entire Jewish communities were often blamed collectively even when individuals convicted were not Jewish. That is where the stereotype comes from.

Fourth, the claim about political control or a unified agenda. Jewish populations are politically diverse across countries and communities. The fact that some Jews hold positions of influence does not prove a coordinated agenda any more than influential Catholics, Protestants, or secular people prove those groups run governments.

Fifth, the argument that ancient Hebrews were different from Jews today. Historically that is incorrect. Judaism developed directly from the religion and people of ancient Israel after the Second Temple period. The continuity is widely recognized in historical and archaeological scholarship.

Finally, the entire discussion started because you were mocking the idea that a Jew could believe Yeshua is the Messiah. The apostle Paul the Apostle was exactly that: a Jew who believed Yeshua is the Messiah and still identified as an Israelite.

Romans 11:1 (Amplified Bible) “I say then, has God rejected and disowned His people? Certainly not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

The Greek word Paul uses is Ἰσραηλίτης (Israēlitēs), meaning a member of Israel.

So the attempt to divide “Hebrews” from “Jews,” pile on medieval accusations, and then attach modern politics to it does not hold up historically or biblically.

Facts don't care dude. Just relax and deal. Lates.

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– harzkp813 1 point 13 hours ago +1 / -0

You are jumping between centuries, stereotypes, and modern politics and pretending it is one continuous argument. It is not.

EXACTLY. So that basically disproves your entire idea that j EVVs and J ews (Heb rews!) are the same.

First, the “Christkiller” accusation. The New Testament itself does not support blaming an entire people.

Know what a "Representative" is? Also I don't blame a people, that is a strawman the edj EVVcation system drilled into the weakmind g0ybrains.

Yeshua was executed by Roman authority under Pontius Pilate. Historically that is how crucifixion worked. Rome carried it out.

Who made Rome do it? It's not like there's a "clean side".

Second, the idea that Jews today secretly worship Baal or Molech.

It's not secret, it's known.

That accusation makes no sense when applied to Ju daism. Ju daism has been strictly monotheistic for thousands of years

You mean the OT kind, which isn't being practiced, to our knowledge. There is also no temple for sacrifices to be properly done.

and explicitly condemns those idols. The Heb rew Scriptures repeatedly condemn Molech worship as abomination.

And j EVVs after 70 A.D. do not follow them, to our knowledge.

Third, the coin clipping stereotype. That crime shows up in medieval Europe. Court records from England and other kingdoms show large numbers of Christians prosecuted for it. Yet entire Je vvish communities were often blamed collectively even when individuals convicted were not Je vvish. That is where the stereotype comes from.

Believed what jEVVs said about his ancestors award. "The people whose country bombed the USS Liberty and killed JFK are more trustworthy than everyone else! Leo frank dindu nuffin! Larry Loomer the trans person is the best influencer!"

Imagine undermining your own faith in support of people who view you as g0yim (cattle). How many statues of WW1 and WW2 veterans are there in holocost museums? In Israel? What's UNreal's policy on blacks or indians marrying J evvs?

Fourth, the claim about political control or a unified agenda.

A depressingly large amount are in favor of it. The others don't care or are ignorant about it. This argument is no different from the "Not All Mozlems" argument.

J evvish populations are politically diverse across countries and communities.

Didn't say otherwise. Fact: More j EVVs voted for cameltoe HairyHas than Trump in 2024.

The fact that some J evvs hold positions of influence does not prove a coordinated agenda any more than influential Catholics, Protestants, or secular people prove those groups run governments.

Then how come all Western countries at some point want to suicide via woke policy and mass migration?

Fifth, the argument that ancient He brews were different from Je vvs today. Historically that is incorrect. Juda ism developed directly from the religion and people of ancient Is real after the Second Temple period.

It was in effect from when people offered sacrifices and observed 613 laws to after Jesus rose.

With all the horrendous outcomes that influential jEVVs produce, how can you possibly believe they are Heb rews?

The continuity is widely recognized in historical and archaeological scholarship.

If that was true we would be taught that instead of Swindler's Li(e)st and literal Hollywood propaganda.

Finally, the entire discussion started because you were mocking

Ah, because questioning a number is mocking.

the idea that a J evv could believe Yeshua is the Messiah.

Then he would be a Christian. Or do you mean racially?

The apostle Paul the Apostle was exactly that: a J evv

Hebrew by lineage?

So the attempt to divide “Hebrews” from “Je vvs,” pile on

A ton of facts, yeah. Like

medieval accusations,

Like how j eVVs accuse g0ys of a bunch of things, one alltime favorite being "anti SHEMite"?

and then attach modern politics to it does not hold up historically or Biblically.

Because the impostors that appeared later also didn't exist.

Facts don't care dude.

Correct.

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