I didn't find this documentary convincing at all when I watched it a while ago. There's no evidence presented that anything is being spayed other than some alleged chemical tests of water and soil. But we have no idea how the water and soil got that way, whether it's from airplane spraying, ground spraying, contaminants in airplane fuels, nearby factories emitting things into the air or water, contaminants from household water supplies, problems with the collection method, problems with the testing method or anything else.
And of course they just repeat the claim that contrails always disappear very quickly as though that is proof of anything, even though this is obviously false because clouds are made of the same stuff (water vapor) and don't disappear quickly.
This is talking about planes specifically being flown to seed clouds. But the chemtrail conspiracy claim is that your average plane in the sky (i.e., commerical travel flight) is secretly emitting chemicals intended to cause harm or change the weather/climate.
I don't have research at the ready about commercial planes but I don't offhand see why the chemical canisters couldn't be fitted to any plane.
It would also make sense to use commercial because they cover the world, daily. It would be efficient.
I'm sure they could be fitted to commercial planes but then we should see them, right? Or if they're hidden the people who work on the planes should be able to tell us about them. And there should be blueprints, instructions on changing them and other documents that would prove they exist. But so far I haven't found one credible document or whistleblower.
But the chemtrail conspiracy claim is that your average plane in the sky (i.e., commerical travel flight) is secretly emitting chemicals
This is a straw man. That might be the weakest version of the chemtrail claim, but it is far from the only or even the most commonly made version. We should be steel-manning our “opposition” in this forum, otherwise we’re basically just ranting retardedly like they do on r/Atheism
I'm not trying to make a straw man, I'm just saying that's the claim I'm always hearing. People pointing to your average white line in the sky and saying that's a chemtrail. That's what they do in this documentary, and they say it's obvious because they don't immediately disappear. Maybe they don't say it's most planes in the sky, but they imply it's a good proportion of them and it definitely includes commercial flights.
But you kind of are…the topic is about chemicals being released into the atmosphere which have unknown and potentially harmful effects to humans - you respond to the topic, knowing full well that multiple governments have admitted to releasing potentially harmful chemicals into the atmosphere (i.e. “geoengineering”), but instead of acknowledging that reality and operating within it, you present this other reality (“mUh contrails aren’t chemtrails! MUh secret program to outfit all commercial airliners with secret chemical releasers is unbelievable!”) which no one (here, on this forum) was asking you to believe
This is the wildly successful, ultimate documentary on the subject of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. Some refer to this as Chemtrails. I was the editor and motion graphics designer on this movie as well as the follow up video "Hawaii Revisited." We cut the film in 1280x720 HD/ 5.1 Dolby, using media from 7 different cameras; from "pen type" spy cams to HD rigs and everything in between. Enjoy the show and spread the link..
I'll add this to my YouTube queue but older stuff like this bothers me because knowledge has expanded so rapidly in recent years. I still appreciate the time the director took though. props.
I usually feel the need to get the latest info and understand the tech, there's something nostaligic about looking back from today to then too tho. We were just called crazy conspiracy theorists back then.
I didn't find this documentary convincing at all when I watched it a while ago. There's no evidence presented that anything is being spayed other than some alleged chemical tests of water and soil. But we have no idea how the water and soil got that way, whether it's from airplane spraying, ground spraying, contaminants in airplane fuels, nearby factories emitting things into the air or water, contaminants from household water supplies, problems with the collection method, problems with the testing method or anything else.
And of course they just repeat the claim that contrails always disappear very quickly as though that is proof of anything, even though this is obviously false because clouds are made of the same stuff (water vapor) and don't disappear quickly.
We have the proof now, the case is cracked wide open.
Please show me. I know that jet fuel has bad stuff in it that gets into the emissions but I don't know how bad it is or if it's intentional.
So what they do is fill these planes with chemicals to 'seed' the clouds, they use silver iodide, among other things, and it's harmful to life.
https://www.sciencing.com/1905652/what-is-used-cloud-seeding-compound/
This is talking about planes specifically being flown to seed clouds. But the chemtrail conspiracy claim is that your average plane in the sky (i.e., commerical travel flight) is secretly emitting chemicals intended to cause harm or change the weather/climate.
I don't have research at the ready about commercial planes but I don't offhand see why the chemical canisters couldn't be fitted to any plane.
It would also make sense to use commercial because they cover the world, daily. It would be efficient.
Edit: errors
I'm sure they could be fitted to commercial planes but then we should see them, right? Or if they're hidden the people who work on the planes should be able to tell us about them. And there should be blueprints, instructions on changing them and other documents that would prove they exist. But so far I haven't found one credible document or whistleblower.
This is a straw man. That might be the weakest version of the chemtrail claim, but it is far from the only or even the most commonly made version. We should be steel-manning our “opposition” in this forum, otherwise we’re basically just ranting retardedly like they do on r/Atheism
I'm not trying to make a straw man, I'm just saying that's the claim I'm always hearing. People pointing to your average white line in the sky and saying that's a chemtrail. That's what they do in this documentary, and they say it's obvious because they don't immediately disappear. Maybe they don't say it's most planes in the sky, but they imply it's a good proportion of them and it definitely includes commercial flights.
But you kind of are…the topic is about chemicals being released into the atmosphere which have unknown and potentially harmful effects to humans - you respond to the topic, knowing full well that multiple governments have admitted to releasing potentially harmful chemicals into the atmosphere (i.e. “geoengineering”), but instead of acknowledging that reality and operating within it, you present this other reality (“mUh contrails aren’t chemtrails! MUh secret program to outfit all commercial airliners with secret chemical releasers is unbelievable!”) which no one (here, on this forum) was asking you to believe
Thanks u/SwampRangers
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/1ARwsAH4mf/featured-documentary-submission-/c/4eZDp4JHJAL
I had to repost because I messed up the hyperlink, apologies.
Oy vey!
Stop noticing!
Based on ratio, SwampRangers won, so would be nice if you noticed.
Yes i noticed. that's my favorite hobby around here.
For instance, everyone got three points then the downvoter brigade came in.
after 5 years on .wins I still can't believe the petty obsession with up/downvotes. who gives a flying fck?
I'll add this to my YouTube queue but older stuff like this bothers me because knowledge has expanded so rapidly in recent years. I still appreciate the time the director took though. props.
I usually feel the need to get the latest info and understand the tech, there's something nostaligic about looking back from today to then too tho. We were just called crazy conspiracy theorists back then.
Edit: removed ' from were
i'm quite the newbie compared to most it seems. I can't imagine finding out about stuff years ago. I'd be burnt out and broken by now
It is pretty heavy stuff but I have a God that has really big shoulders and He carries me through it.