video is not even about radio comms? its about shuttle taking off from the moon and being filmed by a remote controlled camera...
the best argument is actually that they didnt discover anything on the moon, the moon is exactly as predicted, thats why everything worked flawlessly on first attempt. the moon close up is identical as it is seen far away from earth. exactly what ignorant boomers expected to see.
thats what to show if you faked it, they have no other information other than what was already visibile from earth.
He sort of touched the subject when he mentioned the camera that shot the lunar module departure being remotely controlled from Earth. That would've being dine by radio hence my comment. That would be 2.6s for two-way comms between Earth and moon, far away from realtime like NASA claims.
from earth? thats dumb, but tits not impossible you just have to time it with the known latency. if you can go to the moon then they you can probably pull that off also.
but its not even a rocket, its a straight UFO. imagine propelling people to space with an explosion like that, their ass is gonna be sore after that.
the whole no/low yes/no atmosphere thing deosnt make sense, how do they travel without an atmosphere? why are they buoyant without a proper atmosphere?
thats something you cant make sense of.
Hell, they could have tied string from the LM to the record switch on the camera. Not sure how the recording was transmitted back. I guess they used TV tech to relay it.
Of course the moon landing was a hoax. My question is why did they do it? I've heard many "explanations", to beat the Russians (Soviets), to prove God doesn't exist, to make money, etc. None make sense to me.
The amount of work that went, and still going, into the cover up has to be immense. It has to be justified by something more important, the question is what?
It was to keep us distracted while they installed communists in every facet of our lives, and passed the Hart-Cellar Act which began the process of ethnic genocide against White Gentiles.
"OH WOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO REPLICATE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN REAL LIFE IN A STUDIO TOO!! BIG BREAKING NEWS!!" Yeah and people can drink water in a film studio. Guess that means it's impossible to drink water now! Or that water isn't needed to survive anymore! This is why that link is stupid.
Why do you believe it would be visible? Can you see a breadcrumb your friend glued onto a plane with a telescope when it flies? If you can't then that must mean your friend never glued it on!
To hide the fact that we live on a flat earth with a firmament. What is the significance of the flat earth?
The design of this deeply hidden plot has been to change the perception of the masses, undermining the authority of the Bible, the correct shape of the earth, the layout of the universe and the creator’s position in it.
It means that the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us. Man, woman and child, you are being deceived on a massive scale.
It means that this place was created, that you were designed, you were crafted, you are special and with purpose. A purpose being hidden from you on purpose. We are supposed to know our world, and our reason for being.
We’ve been swallowed whole by this economic fiat money system that controls absolutely everything and fuels this manufactured reality. Most of us know that we are slaves, and it’s no wonder that we desire to escape through movies, tv shows and video games, that happen to also further our programming and mental conditioning. We were never meant to live like this, and knowledge of our flat earth is a step in the right direction. Embrace this flat world of ours, and free your mind from this deception which is being perpetrated by Satan and his legions of demons.
Satan's primary target is the true church of Jesus Christ. He commands a hidden army of individuals possessed by devils who work to suppress the gospel of Jesus Christ and to enslave the world on his behalf. To achieve this, Satan seeks to control the minds of the masses, as mental enslavement precedes physical enslavement. Heliocentrism serves as a foundational belief for manipulating and controlling human minds, diverting them from their Creator and His revealed truth in Bible scripture.
So, I urge you all: diligently study God’s word in the Bible, repent of your sins, believe the gospel, and put your faith in Jesus Christ; for the kingdom of God is at hand.
its the jews. they created a whole fake new world order of lies, erase the guilt of sandnigger jews for the sake of a phony jewish world peace and jewish controlled world trade, the billions of niggers were created for the sole purpose of serving the jews. but white people will never be forgiven for the sins jews commited.
its phony it was never about peace, its all about jewish greed.
I'd also encourage you to look into the Vatican and how the Jesuits, Freemasons, and others all worship and submit to the authority of the Pope. I believe the Vatican is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here. I will show you the judgement of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality. Those who dwell in the earth were made drunken with the wine of her sexual immorality.” He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-coloured beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. And on her forehead a name was written, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered with great amazement. The angel said to me, “Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction. Those who dwell on the earth and whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see that the beast was, and is not, and shall be present. Here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are seven kings. Five have fallen, the one is, and the other has not yet come. When he comes, he must continue a little while. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also an eighth, and is of the seven; and he goes to destruction. The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with him are called, chosen, and faithful.” He said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The ten horns which you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute, will make her desolate, will strip her naked, will eat her flesh, and will burn her utterly with fire. For God has put in their hearts to do what he has in mind, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished. The woman whom you saw is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:1-18)
After these things, I saw another angel coming down out of the sky, having great authority. The earth was illuminated with his glory. He cried with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and she has become a habitation of demons, a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her sexual immorality, the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from the abundance of her luxury.” I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don’t receive of her plagues, for her sins have reached to the sky, and God has remembered her iniquities. Return to her just as she returned, and repay her double as she did, and according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix to her double. However much she glorified herself and grew wanton, so much give her of torment and mourning. For she says in her heart, ‘I sit a queen, and am no widow, and will in no way see mourning.’ Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burnt with fire, for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. The kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgement has come in one hour.’ The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more: merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you. All things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every ship master, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For she is made desolate in one hour. “Rejoice over her, O heaven, you saints, apostles, and prophets, for God has judged your judgement on her.” A mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down, and will be found no more at all. The voice of harpists, minstrels, flute players, and trumpeters will be heard no more at all in you. No craftsman of whatever craft will be found any more at all in you. The sound of a mill will be heard no more at all in you. The light of a lamp will shine no more at all in you. The voice of the bridegroom and of the bride will be heard no more at all in you, for your merchants were the princes of the earth; for with your sorcery all the nations were deceived. In her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on the earth.” (Revelation 18:1-24)
"You must believe my specific view about the earth's shape or you're going to HELL!!!!"
Nope. Not a Salvational issue at all. Believe it's a donut for all I care, but don't you think about getting a job relating to engineering or logistics, because you're gonna have a rough time. You're gonna have to pick believing your wrong belief or not having the job.
"The Firmament must be made out of glass!!"
Nope it can easily be air. No reason to think it stayed solid after the Flood.
repeats the talking point that earth shape ties in with origin
Nope. God created man from dust and He created the globe ex nihilo. See how easy that is? Your false assumptions wither upon scrutiny.
Welcome back, just a reminder that c/FlatEarth is interested in your work.
The "firmament" is made of matter, of course, what might be loosely called "waters" (hydrogen and oxygen), but it's been "stretched out" to an extreme degree. There are three heavens of different character, and it's probable there are also different dimensional statuses involved as Paul and John show. Were you looking for something more specific from that?
One thing that happens at Scored is autofilters remove links that they don't like. When this happens everyone else sees "Comment removed by spam filter, pending further review." instead of your comment. You can find a log URL that will show the first line of the removed comment ["the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us They are covering a lot more than you think about the original man. There are [two creation stories of humans in the Bible.](https://4."]. All you need to do is repost it without the link (and possibly tell people less directly how to find the link).
c/Conspiracies has no active moderators; admin names are on the list and they are active but very rarely step in here. So it's a Wild West forum right now. Don't sweat it.
You might be interested to know that basically no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives until 19th-century German higher critics came in and started writing theories about how the Bible was contradictory and recent and how nobody needed to believe in God or live morally. Little bit of pandering to their own deviances there. Quite an interesting rabbit hole. Those of us in the 21st century who are still troubled by Biblical accounts are not reading them in their cultural setting. But, as I said, I'm still interested in what the real Truth is as the two accounts have much to say about Reality that is unappreciated by Christianity (notice the movement of gold, for instance) and there is much around the text for us to learn from.
no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives
I don't have a problem with inconsistencies in the Bible, it's something I would expect. And anything can be explained to a brainwashed audience. I have an issue with what's not being there (i.e. included in the Bible), for instance 1Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Gospel of Thomas, Apocryphon of John, etc. Same jews were censoring then, as their descendants are doing today.
And the Gospel of Thomas is not even a gnostic text and according to many scholars it was written before the Synoptics.
He is also associated with Scott Lively, another evangelical Christian Zionist. As far as I am concerned the Christian Zionists, along with the jews, are responsible for most of the evil and the problems in the world today. Without them there wouldn't be a Rothschild state of Israel in Middle East.
https://www.scottlively.net/swamp-rangers/swamp-rangers-recruiting-office/
he's playing both sides
I disagree with you here. IMO, Christian Zionists are the most brainwashed people of Earth. But, they don't play anything... they just obey. They're puppets on a string. According to Bibi they're "useful idiots".
Good link, there are definitely intentionally different perspectives, but the chart also overextends its case such as giving the impression that "male" and "female" are plural when they aren't.
So we can talk c/FlatEarth (mine) or c/flatearthresearch (another guy's). I love apocryphal writings and they are allowed at c/Christianity (the original Christian forum, where I became the most active mod), but some might prefer c/Faith (mine) or c/ChristianAnarchism (nobody's). A friend just started c/HolySeekersOfTheWay and is open to apocrypha too, that's new so you can propose direction there if you like. There are more.
So I trust you accept James, since he's in Josephus? Note that when James says be a Doer of the Word, Hebrew for doer is Oseh, and I think the best etymological theory is that Osey became Essene. John and Jesus were a lot more Essene than people realize, because there were not just the cave Essenes, but a much broader supporter Essene network that lived in the towns but paid for the cave work to be done. The reason the Essenes vanished is twofold, the cave people couldn't keep up after life changed for everyone in 70, and the town people all became Christians and many of them dutifully headed for the hills in 68 following Jesus's prophecy. So they are a huge strand of the primitive church that (like others, including the Gentile) contributed to what the church was by the time of Polycarp and Irenaeus.
So I trust you accept James, since he's in Josephus
I want to ask you a question. But, first let me answer your question; No I don't trust anyone. They have given James the title "the just" for a reason. He may or may not be the brother of Jesus, but that's irrelevant to me.
And it's Titus Flavius Josephus, but his real name is Joseph ben Matityahu. And yes he's a jew who changed his name, like so many others. They do it today as well. And that brings me to the question.
I know you're a Christian Zionist and here is your website. To me Christian Zionists, especially the ones in America, along with the jews, are responsible for the creation of the state of Israel. Jacob Rothschild bragged that was his family who created Israel, and that may be true from a finance pov, but that's all. The fact is, the state of Israel wouldn't exist today without the support from Christian Zionists. What makes you a supporter? Even Ben Netanyahu doesn't think much of Christian Zionists.
I don't count myself a Zionist. I'm sold out to the Jesus who revealed himself to me. The state of Israel can be praised or criticized like any nation when it does good or bad; it's in a nadir these last few years. But believing in sharing Jesus with everyone I believing in building bridges and have special concern with building bridges to and from the Jews. That is, we should all come to see Jesus as he truly is, and Jesus speaks of his people as his bride which culturally means sharing in all his human powers and titles (and all the divine potential that entails), including being the Anointeds of our generation.
Trusting nobody is a great start. I tried it but then realized I was trusting myself to do the distrusting right. I doubted everything but like Descartes realized I couldn't doubt that I was doing the doubting. Bob Dylan said you gotta serve somebody. So looking at all the things in the cosmos I could serve, I came to determine that the Jesus who revealed himself to me was the best one on all counts; and that I don't have to sweat anything anymore because I can't keep myself in his hand but he can keep me. And as Ann Coulter says of Christianity, if you can find a better offer, take it! HTH.
He began with "Our Father" indicating the Monad as the source of all consciousness. "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" - here, the kingdom is not a distant thing to hope for but the fullness of consciousness to be realized. Which is Pleroma. Prayer in the context of Gnostic philosophy is recognition, declaration, and alignment. Jesus thanked the Father for outcomes as if they had already occurred.
Very nice, a fair summary of a well-taken point. Prayers are indeed alignment work (albeit culturally there are ways to frame that in imperative voices). To me what's missing is how to resolve statements of theology, and what difference it makes. For instance, we could argue that it's significant that manuscripts about addressing God are few and disputed, but then decide to agree that it doesn't matter because the church's language isn't so wrong that it requires our opposition. Alternately, we could argue there's a binary tension there and a side must be taken, and then we'd need a path for resolution.
If the Monad is Father and Pleroma, what difference does it make if we call it our El or Theos as well, or if we don't? There are several Scriptures I could ask your opinion about, but I would hold on those since I'm still working on getting the foundational understandings.
church's language isn't so wrong that it requires our opposition
With the Church is not about right or wrong. Just think about, you can't pray (how religion teaches) to the Monad because it's not separate from you to receive prayers. You can't disappoint it because it has no expectations. You can't be judged by it because it's not a judge. It's the very awareness within which the concepts of judgment arise and pass away. This understanding was and is absolutely terrifying to church authorities. And they should be scared. If ultimate reality has no personality, no commands, no specific will that needs interpreting, then what's the point of priests and religious institutions? What's the purpose of institutions claiming to speak for God? The entire structure of religious authority collapses when people realize that the deepest truth isn't a being you need intermediaries to reach, but the very awareness you already are. The political implications are staggering.
A personal god, Yawheh or El or Theos, who gives commands requires interpreters, hierarchies, institutions to manage divine will. But the Monad, it's not giving commands because it's not separate from what is. It's not ruling the universe. It's the consciousness within which the universe appears like a dream in an infinite mind. So, it's not about the language Church uses... it's about people waking up from their sleep. Once that happens the Power (church & empire) fall apart.
If the Monad is Father and Pleroma, what difference does it make if we call it our El or Theos as well, or if we don't?
IMO, the difference is by association. In the Apocryphon of John I shared with you what John revealed, there exists a reality so fundamental that even Yahweh, the biblical creator, is merely a distant shadow of it. The text calls this ultimate source the Monad, describing it as the invisible spirit that stands infinitely above every deity, every spiritual hierarchy ever recorded. Now, let's take a look at the Gospel of the Egyptians which goes further, explaining that all creator gods, including the one who made our physical universe, are just source. There exists a hierarchy, God at the top, angels below, humans at the bottom. Even those exploring ancient wisdom and the church accept this basic hierarchy.
John reveals "before anything existed, the Monad was.". Not in the beginning, God created... But before beginning itself, before existence, before the very possibility of creation, there was this. Because the Monad isn't a being at all. It's not a person, not a deity, not some cosmic grandfather with beard. Genesis gives us a God who speaks, who walks in the garden, who gets angry, who makes plans. But, the Monad doesn't speak because it's the silence from which all words emerge. It doesn't create because it is the space within which all creation unfolds. Are you beginning to see the difference between the Monad and El?
Let me go a bit further; have you ever questioned how thoughts arise in your mind? Where do they come from? many would say there is this aware, infinite space. I would argue this is consciousness that's present before any thought appears, during the thought and after it disappears. Thoughts don't create this awareness. They manifest within it. Now imagine that awareness without any thoughts at all, without any content whatsoever, infinite and eternal. That is the Monad. It is invisible, it is infinite (not just big, but beyond any boundaries), illimitable since there is nothing before it to limit it. But, the most important characteristic of the Monad, it's unknowable. Furthermore The gospel of the Egyptians states it's not something we can or will ever know. In other words it is the invisible light. Not darkness, not ordinary light, but the light that makes all seeing possible while remaining itself unseen. It's the awareness within which all experiences of light and dark appear.
Imagine yourself looking into a perfectly still pond. And for the first time, you see your own reflection. But imagine that reflection isn't separate from you. It's you becoming aware of yourself in a completely new way. You just discovered the Monad yet it's still unknowable. There's no divine command, no big bang, no let there be light moment. Instead, something far more mysterious occurs. You realize that you don't serve the Monad in the way a created being serves a creator. Not the way the Church and every religion on earth teaches. We're witnessing the natural overflow of infinite consciousness recognizing itself in ever-expanding ways.
it's not separate from you to receive prayers. You can't disappoint it because it has no expectations. You can't be judged by it because it's not a judge. It's the very awareness within which the concepts of judgment arise and pass away.
This is very close to "apophatic theology", which I define as talking about Being via what it is not. There's a second way of talking about Being ("cataphatic"), namely how it reconciles spectra of things that are. In the first way, the Monad isn't even a monad or a plurality because those are words for emanated things: it is both undivided and unmixed. It's not separate from us, and it's not joined to us. It's not expecting, and it's not failing either. It's not judging and it's not judged. It's not awareness and it's not lethe. In the second way of talking, we do use words like this recognizing that they describe aspects that are transcended and harmonized, and that form of speech is common and valid as well.
What bothers churchmen is that speaking of the attribute of impersonality carries a risk that we demote the attribute of personality. Ultimately this need not be done, but so many have created an impersonal god in their own imaginations and gone far astray in everyone else's judgment that there is a warning against it. Francis Schaeffer took the bull by the horns by writing Beyond Personality to awaken Christians to this reality; he might interest you!
What's the purpose of institutions claiming to speak for God? The entire structure of religious authority collapses when people realize that the deepest truth isn't a being you need intermediaries to reach, but the very awareness you already are. The political implications are staggering.
Good human institutions only survive because they humbly refuse to speak for God. "Nature" speaks for itself, though we call it impersonal, and all revelation works the same way. Yet people who can't get the experience of monism right ("general revelation") need not to be too assertive when describing an experience of "special revelation".
there exists a reality so fundamental that even Yahweh, the biblical creator, is merely a distant shadow of it.
I would say instead that "Creator" and "Yahweh" and "Reality" and "Fundament" and "Distance" are all shadows that only approximate; no merely human word is final. Our always striving to know reality better allows our words to be sufficient and actionable without being exhaustive. But what's happened (and it started with Jews inventing "Ein Sof" or "Infinity" IMHO) is that people who find one label insufficient for one purpose then put their trust in ... another label. I kept seeking the root of it all and realized I could never apprehend the root and remain myself. I then started using all the words as shadows of various states of being, and I recognized that they fit together into many different isomorphic structures. In the structure you posit above, "Reality" is Fundamental and "Yahweh" and "Creator" are Distant, which might be true in many applications, but the words could be rearranged several ways to yield many truths in other applications, and all the arrangements have nuanced meaning and value without contradiction.
Now, let's take a look at the Gospel of the Egyptians which goes further, explaining that all creator gods, including the one who made our physical universe, are just source. There exists a hierarchy, God at the top, angels below, humans at the bottom.
That is indeed Near East divine-council theory, but it seems like it cuts against the idea that we never use the word "God" for the "Top". Whatever is revealed to us is mediated by our incompleteness and so in one sense we can never know what is beyond and in another sense we can know "God" or any "Thing" with sufficient, actionable substance.
John reveals "before anything existed, the Monad was.". Not in the beginning, God created.
I don't see a contradiction, they both sound like John 1:1-3.
Genesis gives us a God who speaks, who walks in the garden, who gets angry, who makes plans. But, the Monad doesn't speak because it's the silence from which all words emerge. It doesn't create because it is the space within which all creation unfolds. Are you beginning to see the difference between the Monad and El?
No, in the fundamentals I don't. By calling it Monad and Silence and Space you're applying labels that simply put it at a different pole of the spectrum of being than calling it God and Speaker and Creator. Genesis uses a lot of personal language (because personality came from somewhere and isn't a power that creatures have over the Monad), but it doesn't lead to contradiction, but paradox (i.e. something resolvable via nuance). For instance after the general introduction we are told that the Spirit broods (silently) before a Word is said (audibly). But the word for brooding and the word for speaking both come down to the same phenomenon, vibration in waves, expressed differently. So silence and speech are set by the text as a paradox, and we now have a scientific ("gnostic") way of resolving the paradox with nuance.
I would argue this is consciousness that's present before any thought appears, during the thought and after it disappears. Thoughts don't create this awareness. They manifest within it. Now imagine that awareness without any thoughts at all, without any content whatsoever, infinite and eternal. That is the Monad.
Okay, the experience is real, and the imaginative extrapolation is useful to a point, but not to all points. To say the Monad "is" awareness without thoughts is merely to apply a perceived experience to the whole of reality, which falls short because the map is never the territory.
beyond any boundaries
Yeah, I discovered that if there are boundaries they are indiscernible.
the invisible light
Use of paradox then, which is not monad but dyad and synthesis.
There's no divine command, no big bang, no let there be light moment.
Well, when we look at history there's an origin to spacetime, but there are still lots of views about that (including denying it).
you don't serve the Monad in the way a created being serves a creator. Not the way the Church and every religion on earth teaches. We're witnessing the natural overflow of infinite consciousness recognizing itself in ever-expanding ways.
Here the paradox is that if we were to teach how the Monad is served we would be just another religion. So in one sense the Monad cannot be served, but in another sense you truly imply we do serve the Monad somewhere between the Me (experience) and the Myself (reflection). That is because we could say the Monad "is" the Me and "is" the Myself and "is" the service. That gets us back to all relative words having a natural pattern of active, inactive, action (lover, beloved, love). That pattern is, however, isomorphic with the pattern of All being One. So, having beheld the Monad, and having beheld the Other (reflection) that is Self that have a relationship (reflective surface), we rejoice in the beholding, but when we come back to speaking English to our fellow man we end up using words that are like those already spoken, sometimes better and often worse. And all those words have sufficiency and substantiality without needing perfection or exhaustiveness. And that's what we build bridges on.
video is not even about radio comms? its about shuttle taking off from the moon and being filmed by a remote controlled camera...
the best argument is actually that they didnt discover anything on the moon, the moon is exactly as predicted, thats why everything worked flawlessly on first attempt. the moon close up is identical as it is seen far away from earth. exactly what ignorant boomers expected to see. thats what to show if you faked it, they have no other information other than what was already visibile from earth.
He sort of touched the subject when he mentioned the camera that shot the lunar module departure being remotely controlled from Earth. That would've being dine by radio hence my comment. That would be 2.6s for two-way comms between Earth and moon, far away from realtime like NASA claims.
https://www.spaceacademy.net.au/spacelink/commdly.htm
That shot was most likely done by Kubrick in a Hollywood studio.
from earth? thats dumb, but tits not impossible you just have to time it with the known latency. if you can go to the moon then they you can probably pull that off also.
but its not even a rocket, its a straight UFO. imagine propelling people to space with an explosion like that, their ass is gonna be sore after that. the whole no/low yes/no atmosphere thing deosnt make sense, how do they travel without an atmosphere? why are they buoyant without a proper atmosphere? thats something you cant make sense of.
Hell, they could have tied string from the LM to the record switch on the camera. Not sure how the recording was transmitted back. I guess they used TV tech to relay it.
Correction: You mean there no lag in bidirectional radio comms between celestial bodies?
Of course the moon landing was a hoax. My question is why did they do it? I've heard many "explanations", to beat the Russians (Soviets), to prove God doesn't exist, to make money, etc. None make sense to me.
The amount of work that went, and still going, into the cover up has to be immense. It has to be justified by something more important, the question is what?
It literally justifies nasa's existence. They've taxed the public by now trillions of dollars because of it.
It was to keep us distracted while they installed communists in every facet of our lives, and passed the Hart-Cellar Act which began the process of ethnic genocide against White Gentiles.
NASA in Hebrew means "To deceive".
I know this and I know about Wernher von Braun and Psalms 19:1
But, I don't believe you're correct. They play both sides according to the Hegelian dialectic game. "Some call it Marxism (Communism). I call it Judaism." - Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise
Or mabye it's not a hoax.
"White American men never did this thing they clearly did!"
And maybe pigs can fly.
It was all filmed in Hollywood studios
Stanley Kubrick was the director and allegedly he even confessed on his deathbed.
What's the Moonlanding hoax have to do with whites in America?
"OH WOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO REPLICATE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN REAL LIFE IN A STUDIO TOO!! BIG BREAKING NEWS!!" Yeah and people can drink water in a film studio. Guess that means it's impossible to drink water now! Or that water isn't needed to survive anymore! This is why that link is stupid.
I don't care what you think. Enjoy the 💩 show.
[reposts exact same video]
Should I care what you think? Go ahead, be apathetic all you want. Doesn't affect me. Useless brag.
For all you know that's a movie about how the moon landing could be faked.
The moon landing and earth shape are totally different issues. Not surprising a FE would try to bundle them together.
Guilt by association.
By that logic Starlink is a hoax.
Who do you think built the tech?
No. I think it's because you believe in a globe earth. Either way I don't care what you think. Enjoy the shitshow: https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1718314797144428544/pu/vid/avc1/426x426/_4fa04rtetaA9Mp4.mp4?tag=12
For all you know that's a movie about how the moon landing could be faked.
The moon landing and earth shape are totally different issues. Not surprising a FE would try to bundle them together.
Guilt by association.
By that logic Starlink is a hoax.
Who do you think built the tech?
Prove it.
There's a man made object on the moon. Did it teleport there?
Show me one photo of it from any telescope ever.
Why do you believe it would be visible? Can you see a breadcrumb your friend glued onto a plane with a telescope when it flies? If you can't then that must mean your friend never glued it on!
To hide the fact that we live on a flat earth with a firmament. What is the significance of the flat earth?
We’ve been swallowed whole by this economic fiat money system that controls absolutely everything and fuels this manufactured reality. Most of us know that we are slaves, and it’s no wonder that we desire to escape through movies, tv shows and video games, that happen to also further our programming and mental conditioning. We were never meant to live like this, and knowledge of our flat earth is a step in the right direction. Embrace this flat world of ours, and free your mind from this deception which is being perpetrated by Satan and his legions of demons.
Satan's primary target is the true church of Jesus Christ. He commands a hidden army of individuals possessed by devils who work to suppress the gospel of Jesus Christ and to enslave the world on his behalf. To achieve this, Satan seeks to control the minds of the masses, as mental enslavement precedes physical enslavement. Heliocentrism serves as a foundational belief for manipulating and controlling human minds, diverting them from their Creator and His revealed truth in Bible scripture.
So, I urge you all: diligently study God’s word in the Bible, repent of your sins, believe the gospel, and put your faith in Jesus Christ; for the kingdom of God is at hand.
its the jews. they created a whole fake new world order of lies, erase the guilt of sandnigger jews for the sake of a phony jewish world peace and jewish controlled world trade, the billions of niggers were created for the sole purpose of serving the jews. but white people will never be forgiven for the sins jews commited.
its phony it was never about peace, its all about jewish greed.
I'd also encourage you to look into the Vatican and how the Jesuits, Freemasons, and others all worship and submit to the authority of the Pope. I believe the Vatican is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here. I will show you the judgement of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality. Those who dwell in the earth were made drunken with the wine of her sexual immorality.” He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-coloured beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. And on her forehead a name was written, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered with great amazement. The angel said to me, “Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction. Those who dwell on the earth and whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see that the beast was, and is not, and shall be present. Here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are seven kings. Five have fallen, the one is, and the other has not yet come. When he comes, he must continue a little while. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also an eighth, and is of the seven; and he goes to destruction. The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with him are called, chosen, and faithful.” He said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The ten horns which you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute, will make her desolate, will strip her naked, will eat her flesh, and will burn her utterly with fire. For God has put in their hearts to do what he has in mind, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished. The woman whom you saw is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:1-18)
After these things, I saw another angel coming down out of the sky, having great authority. The earth was illuminated with his glory. He cried with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and she has become a habitation of demons, a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her sexual immorality, the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from the abundance of her luxury.” I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don’t receive of her plagues, for her sins have reached to the sky, and God has remembered her iniquities. Return to her just as she returned, and repay her double as she did, and according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix to her double. However much she glorified herself and grew wanton, so much give her of torment and mourning. For she says in her heart, ‘I sit a queen, and am no widow, and will in no way see mourning.’ Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burnt with fire, for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. The kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgement has come in one hour.’ The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more: merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you. All things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every ship master, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For she is made desolate in one hour. “Rejoice over her, O heaven, you saints, apostles, and prophets, for God has judged your judgement on her.” A mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down, and will be found no more at all. The voice of harpists, minstrels, flute players, and trumpeters will be heard no more at all in you. No craftsman of whatever craft will be found any more at all in you. The sound of a mill will be heard no more at all in you. The light of a lamp will shine no more at all in you. The voice of the bridegroom and of the bride will be heard no more at all in you, for your merchants were the princes of the earth; for with your sorcery all the nations were deceived. In her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on the earth.” (Revelation 18:1-24)
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"You must believe my specific view about the earth's shape or you're going to HELL!!!!"
Nope. Not a Salvational issue at all. Believe it's a donut for all I care, but don't you think about getting a job relating to engineering or logistics, because you're gonna have a rough time. You're gonna have to pick believing your wrong belief or not having the job.
"The Firmament must be made out of glass!!"
Nope it can easily be air. No reason to think it stayed solid after the Flood.
Nope. God created man from dust and He created the globe ex nihilo. See how easy that is? Your false assumptions wither upon scrutiny.
Welcome back, just a reminder that c/FlatEarth is interested in your work.
The "firmament" is made of matter, of course, what might be loosely called "waters" (hydrogen and oxygen), but it's been "stretched out" to an extreme degree. There are three heavens of different character, and it's probable there are also different dimensional statuses involved as Paul and John show. Were you looking for something more specific from that?
c/Yahweh
No, my flat-earth alt is c/SwampRangersAlt, try to keep up here.
That explains your faggotry 😂
One thing that happens at Scored is autofilters remove links that they don't like. When this happens everyone else sees "Comment removed by spam filter, pending further review." instead of your comment. You can find a log URL that will show the first line of the removed comment ["the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us They are covering a lot more than you think about the original man. There are [two creation stories of humans in the Bible.](https://4."]. All you need to do is repost it without the link (and possibly tell people less directly how to find the link).
c/Conspiracies has no active moderators; admin names are on the list and they are active but very rarely step in here. So it's a Wild West forum right now. Don't sweat it.
You might be interested to know that basically no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives until 19th-century German higher critics came in and started writing theories about how the Bible was contradictory and recent and how nobody needed to believe in God or live morally. Little bit of pandering to their own deviances there. Quite an interesting rabbit hole. Those of us in the 21st century who are still troubled by Biblical accounts are not reading them in their cultural setting. But, as I said, I'm still interested in what the real Truth is as the two accounts have much to say about Reality that is unappreciated by Christianity (notice the movement of gold, for instance) and there is much around the text for us to learn from.
Thanks. The link that I provided was an image of a table showing the two creation stories side-by-side. Nothing special, here is another link showing exactly the same thing. Let's see if they censor this as well: https://i.pinimg.com/474x/7d/af/15/7daf15dd7d129189e4ef019c2fa295cf.jpg?nii=t
I don't have a problem with inconsistencies in the Bible, it's something I would expect. And anything can be explained to a brainwashed audience. I have an issue with what's not being there (i.e. included in the Bible), for instance 1Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Gospel of Thomas, Apocryphon of John, etc. Same jews were censoring then, as their descendants are doing today.
And the Gospel of Thomas is not even a gnostic text and according to many scholars it was written before the Synoptics.
He's the owner of c/Satanism c/Porno and c/Yahweh, he's playing both sides.
He is also associated with Scott Lively, another evangelical Christian Zionist. As far as I am concerned the Christian Zionists, along with the jews, are responsible for most of the evil and the problems in the world today. Without them there wouldn't be a Rothschild state of Israel in Middle East. https://www.scottlively.net/swamp-rangers/swamp-rangers-recruiting-office/
I disagree with you here. IMO, Christian Zionists are the most brainwashed people of Earth. But, they don't play anything... they just obey. They're puppets on a string. According to Bibi they're "useful idiots".
Good link, there are definitely intentionally different perspectives, but the chart also overextends its case such as giving the impression that "male" and "female" are plural when they aren't.
So we can talk c/FlatEarth (mine) or c/flatearthresearch (another guy's). I love apocryphal writings and they are allowed at c/Christianity (the original Christian forum, where I became the most active mod), but some might prefer c/Faith (mine) or c/ChristianAnarchism (nobody's). A friend just started c/HolySeekersOfTheWay and is open to apocrypha too, that's new so you can propose direction there if you like. There are more.
So I trust you accept James, since he's in Josephus? Note that when James says be a Doer of the Word, Hebrew for doer is Oseh, and I think the best etymological theory is that Osey became Essene. John and Jesus were a lot more Essene than people realize, because there were not just the cave Essenes, but a much broader supporter Essene network that lived in the towns but paid for the cave work to be done. The reason the Essenes vanished is twofold, the cave people couldn't keep up after life changed for everyone in 70, and the town people all became Christians and many of them dutifully headed for the hills in 68 following Jesus's prophecy. So they are a huge strand of the primitive church that (like others, including the Gentile) contributed to what the church was by the time of Polycarp and Irenaeus.
I want to ask you a question. But, first let me answer your question; No I don't trust anyone. They have given James the title "the just" for a reason. He may or may not be the brother of Jesus, but that's irrelevant to me.
And it's Titus Flavius Josephus, but his real name is Joseph ben Matityahu. And yes he's a jew who changed his name, like so many others. They do it today as well. And that brings me to the question.
I know you're a Christian Zionist and here is your website. To me Christian Zionists, especially the ones in America, along with the jews, are responsible for the creation of the state of Israel. Jacob Rothschild bragged that was his family who created Israel, and that may be true from a finance pov, but that's all. The fact is, the state of Israel wouldn't exist today without the support from Christian Zionists. What makes you a supporter? Even Ben Netanyahu doesn't think much of Christian Zionists.
I don't count myself a Zionist. I'm sold out to the Jesus who revealed himself to me. The state of Israel can be praised or criticized like any nation when it does good or bad; it's in a nadir these last few years. But believing in sharing Jesus with everyone I believing in building bridges and have special concern with building bridges to and from the Jews. That is, we should all come to see Jesus as he truly is, and Jesus speaks of his people as his bride which culturally means sharing in all his human powers and titles (and all the divine potential that entails), including being the Anointeds of our generation.
Trusting nobody is a great start. I tried it but then realized I was trusting myself to do the distrusting right. I doubted everything but like Descartes realized I couldn't doubt that I was doing the doubting. Bob Dylan said you gotta serve somebody. So looking at all the things in the cosmos I could serve, I came to determine that the Jesus who revealed himself to me was the best one on all counts; and that I don't have to sweat anything anymore because I can't keep myself in his hand but he can keep me. And as Ann Coulter says of Christianity, if you can find a better offer, take it! HTH.
And JG5 owns c/SynagogueofSatan, so him citing those is irrelevant.
Yes, I do. I expose them, not embrace them.
Yes, I know. guywholikesDjtof2024 must have only looked at the title.
You're not going to believe the question this kike just asked me "And what evidence do you have anyone is being murdered in Gaza?".
New cascade for u/jamesbillison (maximum depth reached).
Very nice, a fair summary of a well-taken point. Prayers are indeed alignment work (albeit culturally there are ways to frame that in imperative voices). To me what's missing is how to resolve statements of theology, and what difference it makes. For instance, we could argue that it's significant that manuscripts about addressing God are few and disputed, but then decide to agree that it doesn't matter because the church's language isn't so wrong that it requires our opposition. Alternately, we could argue there's a binary tension there and a side must be taken, and then we'd need a path for resolution.
If the Monad is Father and Pleroma, what difference does it make if we call it our El or Theos as well, or if we don't? There are several Scriptures I could ask your opinion about, but I would hold on those since I'm still working on getting the foundational understandings.
With the Church is not about right or wrong. Just think about, you can't pray (how religion teaches) to the Monad because it's not separate from you to receive prayers. You can't disappoint it because it has no expectations. You can't be judged by it because it's not a judge. It's the very awareness within which the concepts of judgment arise and pass away. This understanding was and is absolutely terrifying to church authorities. And they should be scared. If ultimate reality has no personality, no commands, no specific will that needs interpreting, then what's the point of priests and religious institutions? What's the purpose of institutions claiming to speak for God? The entire structure of religious authority collapses when people realize that the deepest truth isn't a being you need intermediaries to reach, but the very awareness you already are. The political implications are staggering.
A personal god, Yawheh or El or Theos, who gives commands requires interpreters, hierarchies, institutions to manage divine will. But the Monad, it's not giving commands because it's not separate from what is. It's not ruling the universe. It's the consciousness within which the universe appears like a dream in an infinite mind. So, it's not about the language Church uses... it's about people waking up from their sleep. Once that happens the Power (church & empire) fall apart.
IMO, the difference is by association. In the Apocryphon of John I shared with you what John revealed, there exists a reality so fundamental that even Yahweh, the biblical creator, is merely a distant shadow of it. The text calls this ultimate source the Monad, describing it as the invisible spirit that stands infinitely above every deity, every spiritual hierarchy ever recorded. Now, let's take a look at the Gospel of the Egyptians which goes further, explaining that all creator gods, including the one who made our physical universe, are just source. There exists a hierarchy, God at the top, angels below, humans at the bottom. Even those exploring ancient wisdom and the church accept this basic hierarchy.
John reveals "before anything existed, the Monad was.". Not in the beginning, God created... But before beginning itself, before existence, before the very possibility of creation, there was this. Because the Monad isn't a being at all. It's not a person, not a deity, not some cosmic grandfather with beard. Genesis gives us a God who speaks, who walks in the garden, who gets angry, who makes plans. But, the Monad doesn't speak because it's the silence from which all words emerge. It doesn't create because it is the space within which all creation unfolds. Are you beginning to see the difference between the Monad and El?
Let me go a bit further; have you ever questioned how thoughts arise in your mind? Where do they come from? many would say there is this aware, infinite space. I would argue this is consciousness that's present before any thought appears, during the thought and after it disappears. Thoughts don't create this awareness. They manifest within it. Now imagine that awareness without any thoughts at all, without any content whatsoever, infinite and eternal. That is the Monad. It is invisible, it is infinite (not just big, but beyond any boundaries), illimitable since there is nothing before it to limit it. But, the most important characteristic of the Monad, it's unknowable. Furthermore The gospel of the Egyptians states it's not something we can or will ever know. In other words it is the invisible light. Not darkness, not ordinary light, but the light that makes all seeing possible while remaining itself unseen. It's the awareness within which all experiences of light and dark appear.
Imagine yourself looking into a perfectly still pond. And for the first time, you see your own reflection. But imagine that reflection isn't separate from you. It's you becoming aware of yourself in a completely new way. You just discovered the Monad yet it's still unknowable. There's no divine command, no big bang, no let there be light moment. Instead, something far more mysterious occurs. You realize that you don't serve the Monad in the way a created being serves a creator. Not the way the Church and every religion on earth teaches. We're witnessing the natural overflow of infinite consciousness recognizing itself in ever-expanding ways.
Good! That allows bridge-building.
This is very close to "apophatic theology", which I define as talking about Being via what it is not. There's a second way of talking about Being ("cataphatic"), namely how it reconciles spectra of things that are. In the first way, the Monad isn't even a monad or a plurality because those are words for emanated things: it is both undivided and unmixed. It's not separate from us, and it's not joined to us. It's not expecting, and it's not failing either. It's not judging and it's not judged. It's not awareness and it's not lethe. In the second way of talking, we do use words like this recognizing that they describe aspects that are transcended and harmonized, and that form of speech is common and valid as well.
What bothers churchmen is that speaking of the attribute of impersonality carries a risk that we demote the attribute of personality. Ultimately this need not be done, but so many have created an impersonal god in their own imaginations and gone far astray in everyone else's judgment that there is a warning against it. Francis Schaeffer took the bull by the horns by writing Beyond Personality to awaken Christians to this reality; he might interest you!
Good human institutions only survive because they humbly refuse to speak for God. "Nature" speaks for itself, though we call it impersonal, and all revelation works the same way. Yet people who can't get the experience of monism right ("general revelation") need not to be too assertive when describing an experience of "special revelation".
I would say instead that "Creator" and "Yahweh" and "Reality" and "Fundament" and "Distance" are all shadows that only approximate; no merely human word is final. Our always striving to know reality better allows our words to be sufficient and actionable without being exhaustive. But what's happened (and it started with Jews inventing "Ein Sof" or "Infinity" IMHO) is that people who find one label insufficient for one purpose then put their trust in ... another label. I kept seeking the root of it all and realized I could never apprehend the root and remain myself. I then started using all the words as shadows of various states of being, and I recognized that they fit together into many different isomorphic structures. In the structure you posit above, "Reality" is Fundamental and "Yahweh" and "Creator" are Distant, which might be true in many applications, but the words could be rearranged several ways to yield many truths in other applications, and all the arrangements have nuanced meaning and value without contradiction.
That is indeed Near East divine-council theory, but it seems like it cuts against the idea that we never use the word "God" for the "Top". Whatever is revealed to us is mediated by our incompleteness and so in one sense we can never know what is beyond and in another sense we can know "God" or any "Thing" with sufficient, actionable substance.
I don't see a contradiction, they both sound like John 1:1-3.
No, in the fundamentals I don't. By calling it Monad and Silence and Space you're applying labels that simply put it at a different pole of the spectrum of being than calling it God and Speaker and Creator. Genesis uses a lot of personal language (because personality came from somewhere and isn't a power that creatures have over the Monad), but it doesn't lead to contradiction, but paradox (i.e. something resolvable via nuance). For instance after the general introduction we are told that the Spirit broods (silently) before a Word is said (audibly). But the word for brooding and the word for speaking both come down to the same phenomenon, vibration in waves, expressed differently. So silence and speech are set by the text as a paradox, and we now have a scientific ("gnostic") way of resolving the paradox with nuance.
Okay, the experience is real, and the imaginative extrapolation is useful to a point, but not to all points. To say the Monad "is" awareness without thoughts is merely to apply a perceived experience to the whole of reality, which falls short because the map is never the territory.
Yeah, I discovered that if there are boundaries they are indiscernible.
Use of paradox then, which is not monad but dyad and synthesis.
Well, when we look at history there's an origin to spacetime, but there are still lots of views about that (including denying it).
Here the paradox is that if we were to teach how the Monad is served we would be just another religion. So in one sense the Monad cannot be served, but in another sense you truly imply we do serve the Monad somewhere between the Me (experience) and the Myself (reflection). That is because we could say the Monad "is" the Me and "is" the Myself and "is" the service. That gets us back to all relative words having a natural pattern of active, inactive, action (lover, beloved, love). That pattern is, however, isomorphic with the pattern of All being One. So, having beheld the Monad, and having beheld the Other (reflection) that is Self that have a relationship (reflective surface), we rejoice in the beholding, but when we come back to speaking English to our fellow man we end up using words that are like those already spoken, sometimes better and often worse. And all those words have sufficiency and substantiality without needing perfection or exhaustiveness. And that's what we build bridges on.