To hide the fact that we live on a flat earth with a firmament. What is the significance of the flat earth?
The design of this deeply hidden plot has been to change the perception of the masses, undermining the authority of the Bible, the correct shape of the earth, the layout of the universe and the creator’s position in it.
It means that the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us. Man, woman and child, you are being deceived on a massive scale.
It means that this place was created, that you were designed, you were crafted, you are special and with purpose. A purpose being hidden from you on purpose. We are supposed to know our world, and our reason for being.
We’ve been swallowed whole by this economic fiat money system that controls absolutely everything and fuels this manufactured reality. Most of us know that we are slaves, and it’s no wonder that we desire to escape through movies, tv shows and video games, that happen to also further our programming and mental conditioning. We were never meant to live like this, and knowledge of our flat earth is a step in the right direction. Embrace this flat world of ours, and free your mind from this deception which is being perpetrated by Satan and his legions of demons.
Satan's primary target is the true church of Jesus Christ. He commands a hidden army of individuals possessed by devils who work to suppress the gospel of Jesus Christ and to enslave the world on his behalf. To achieve this, Satan seeks to control the minds of the masses, as mental enslavement precedes physical enslavement. Heliocentrism serves as a foundational belief for manipulating and controlling human minds, diverting them from their Creator and His revealed truth in Bible scripture.
So, I urge you all: diligently study God’s word in the Bible, repent of your sins, believe the gospel, and put your faith in Jesus Christ; for the kingdom of God is at hand.
its the jews. they created a whole fake new world order of lies, erase the guilt of sandnigger jews for the sake of a phony jewish world peace and jewish controlled world trade, the billions of niggers were created for the sole purpose of serving the jews. but white people will never be forgiven for the sins jews commited.
its phony it was never about peace, its all about jewish greed.
I'd also encourage you to look into the Vatican and how the Jesuits, Freemasons, and others all worship and submit to the authority of the Pope. I believe the Vatican is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here. I will show you the judgement of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality. Those who dwell in the earth were made drunken with the wine of her sexual immorality.” He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-coloured beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. And on her forehead a name was written, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered with great amazement. The angel said to me, “Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction. Those who dwell on the earth and whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see that the beast was, and is not, and shall be present. Here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are seven kings. Five have fallen, the one is, and the other has not yet come. When he comes, he must continue a little while. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also an eighth, and is of the seven; and he goes to destruction. The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with him are called, chosen, and faithful.” He said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The ten horns which you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute, will make her desolate, will strip her naked, will eat her flesh, and will burn her utterly with fire. For God has put in their hearts to do what he has in mind, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished. The woman whom you saw is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:1-18)
After these things, I saw another angel coming down out of the sky, having great authority. The earth was illuminated with his glory. He cried with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and she has become a habitation of demons, a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her sexual immorality, the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from the abundance of her luxury.” I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don’t receive of her plagues, for her sins have reached to the sky, and God has remembered her iniquities. Return to her just as she returned, and repay her double as she did, and according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix to her double. However much she glorified herself and grew wanton, so much give her of torment and mourning. For she says in her heart, ‘I sit a queen, and am no widow, and will in no way see mourning.’ Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burnt with fire, for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. The kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgement has come in one hour.’ The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more: merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you. All things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every ship master, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For she is made desolate in one hour. “Rejoice over her, O heaven, you saints, apostles, and prophets, for God has judged your judgement on her.” A mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down, and will be found no more at all. The voice of harpists, minstrels, flute players, and trumpeters will be heard no more at all in you. No craftsman of whatever craft will be found any more at all in you. The sound of a mill will be heard no more at all in you. The light of a lamp will shine no more at all in you. The voice of the bridegroom and of the bride will be heard no more at all in you, for your merchants were the princes of the earth; for with your sorcery all the nations were deceived. In her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on the earth.” (Revelation 18:1-24)
"You must believe my specific view about the earth's shape or you're going to HELL!!!!"
Nope. Not a Salvational issue at all. Believe it's a donut for all I care, but don't you think about getting a job relating to engineering or logistics, because you're gonna have a rough time. You're gonna have to pick believing your wrong belief or not having the job.
"The Firmament must be made out of glass!!"
Nope it can easily be air. No reason to think it stayed solid after the Flood.
repeats the talking point that earth shape ties in with origin
Nope. God created man from dust and He created the globe ex nihilo. See how easy that is? Your false assumptions wither upon scrutiny.
Welcome back, just a reminder that c/FlatEarth is interested in your work.
The "firmament" is made of matter, of course, what might be loosely called "waters" (hydrogen and oxygen), but it's been "stretched out" to an extreme degree. There are three heavens of different character, and it's probable there are also different dimensional statuses involved as Paul and John show. Were you looking for something more specific from that?
One thing that happens at Scored is autofilters remove links that they don't like. When this happens everyone else sees "Comment removed by spam filter, pending further review." instead of your comment. You can find a log URL that will show the first line of the removed comment ["the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us They are covering a lot more than you think about the original man. There are [two creation stories of humans in the Bible.](https://4."]. All you need to do is repost it without the link (and possibly tell people less directly how to find the link).
c/Conspiracies has no active moderators; admin names are on the list and they are active but very rarely step in here. So it's a Wild West forum right now. Don't sweat it.
You might be interested to know that basically no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives until 19th-century German higher critics came in and started writing theories about how the Bible was contradictory and recent and how nobody needed to believe in God or live morally. Little bit of pandering to their own deviances there. Quite an interesting rabbit hole. Those of us in the 21st century who are still troubled by Biblical accounts are not reading them in their cultural setting. But, as I said, I'm still interested in what the real Truth is as the two accounts have much to say about Reality that is unappreciated by Christianity (notice the movement of gold, for instance) and there is much around the text for us to learn from.
no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives
I don't have a problem with inconsistencies in the Bible, it's something I would expect. And anything can be explained to a brainwashed audience. I have an issue with what's not being there (i.e. included in the Bible), for instance 1Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Gospel of Thomas, Apocryphon of John, etc. Same jews were censoring then, as their descendants are doing today.
And the Gospel of Thomas is not even a gnostic text and according to many scholars it was written before the Synoptics.
Good link, there are definitely intentionally different perspectives, but the chart also overextends its case such as giving the impression that "male" and "female" are plural when they aren't.
So we can talk c/FlatEarth (mine) or c/flatearthresearch (another guy's). I love apocryphal writings and they are allowed at c/Christianity (the original Christian forum, where I became the most active mod), but some might prefer c/Faith (mine) or c/ChristianAnarchism (nobody's). A friend just started c/HolySeekersOfTheWay and is open to apocrypha too, that's new so you can propose direction there if you like. There are more.
So I trust you accept James, since he's in Josephus? Note that when James says be a Doer of the Word, Hebrew for doer is Oseh, and I think the best etymological theory is that Osey became Essene. John and Jesus were a lot more Essene than people realize, because there were not just the cave Essenes, but a much broader supporter Essene network that lived in the towns but paid for the cave work to be done. The reason the Essenes vanished is twofold, the cave people couldn't keep up after life changed for everyone in 70, and the town people all became Christians and many of them dutifully headed for the hills in 68 following Jesus's prophecy. So they are a huge strand of the primitive church that (like others, including the Gentile) contributed to what the church was by the time of Polycarp and Irenaeus.
To hide the fact that we live on a flat earth with a firmament. What is the significance of the flat earth?
We’ve been swallowed whole by this economic fiat money system that controls absolutely everything and fuels this manufactured reality. Most of us know that we are slaves, and it’s no wonder that we desire to escape through movies, tv shows and video games, that happen to also further our programming and mental conditioning. We were never meant to live like this, and knowledge of our flat earth is a step in the right direction. Embrace this flat world of ours, and free your mind from this deception which is being perpetrated by Satan and his legions of demons.
Satan's primary target is the true church of Jesus Christ. He commands a hidden army of individuals possessed by devils who work to suppress the gospel of Jesus Christ and to enslave the world on his behalf. To achieve this, Satan seeks to control the minds of the masses, as mental enslavement precedes physical enslavement. Heliocentrism serves as a foundational belief for manipulating and controlling human minds, diverting them from their Creator and His revealed truth in Bible scripture.
So, I urge you all: diligently study God’s word in the Bible, repent of your sins, believe the gospel, and put your faith in Jesus Christ; for the kingdom of God is at hand.
its the jews. they created a whole fake new world order of lies, erase the guilt of sandnigger jews for the sake of a phony jewish world peace and jewish controlled world trade, the billions of niggers were created for the sole purpose of serving the jews. but white people will never be forgiven for the sins jews commited.
its phony it was never about peace, its all about jewish greed.
I'd also encourage you to look into the Vatican and how the Jesuits, Freemasons, and others all worship and submit to the authority of the Pope. I believe the Vatican is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.
One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here. I will show you the judgement of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality. Those who dwell in the earth were made drunken with the wine of her sexual immorality.” He carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet-coloured beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of the sexual immorality of the earth. And on her forehead a name was written, “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered with great amazement. The angel said to me, “Why do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss and to go into destruction. Those who dwell on the earth and whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see that the beast was, and is not, and shall be present. Here is the mind that has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. They are seven kings. Five have fallen, the one is, and the other has not yet come. When he comes, he must continue a little while. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also an eighth, and is of the seven; and he goes to destruction. The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast. These will war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with him are called, chosen, and faithful.” He said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The ten horns which you saw, they and the beast will hate the prostitute, will make her desolate, will strip her naked, will eat her flesh, and will burn her utterly with fire. For God has put in their hearts to do what he has in mind, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God should be accomplished. The woman whom you saw is the great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” (Revelation 17:1-18)
After these things, I saw another angel coming down out of the sky, having great authority. The earth was illuminated with his glory. He cried with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, and she has become a habitation of demons, a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her sexual immorality, the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from the abundance of her luxury.” I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, that you have no participation in her sins, and that you don’t receive of her plagues, for her sins have reached to the sky, and God has remembered her iniquities. Return to her just as she returned, and repay her double as she did, and according to her works. In the cup which she mixed, mix to her double. However much she glorified herself and grew wanton, so much give her of torment and mourning. For she says in her heart, ‘I sit a queen, and am no widow, and will in no way see mourning.’ Therefore in one day her plagues will come: death, mourning, and famine; and she will be utterly burnt with fire, for the Lord God who has judged her is strong. The kings of the earth who committed sexual immorality and lived wantonly with her will weep and wail over her, when they look at the smoke of her burning, standing far away for the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For your judgement has come in one hour.’ The merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise any more: merchandise of gold, silver, precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple, silk, scarlet, all expensive wood, every vessel of ivory, every vessel made of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble; and cinnamon, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, chariots, and people’s bodies and souls. The fruits which your soul lusted after have been lost to you. All things that were dainty and sumptuous have perished from you, and you will find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, will stand far away for the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was dressed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls! For in an hour such great riches are made desolate.’ Every ship master, and everyone who sails anywhere, and mariners, and as many as gain their living by sea, stood far away, and cried out as they looked at the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like the great city?’ They cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had their ships in the sea were made rich by reason of her great wealth!’ For she is made desolate in one hour. “Rejoice over her, O heaven, you saints, apostles, and prophets, for God has judged your judgement on her.” A mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and cast it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down, and will be found no more at all. The voice of harpists, minstrels, flute players, and trumpeters will be heard no more at all in you. No craftsman of whatever craft will be found any more at all in you. The sound of a mill will be heard no more at all in you. The light of a lamp will shine no more at all in you. The voice of the bridegroom and of the bride will be heard no more at all in you, for your merchants were the princes of the earth; for with your sorcery all the nations were deceived. In her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on the earth.” (Revelation 18:1-24)
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"You must believe my specific view about the earth's shape or you're going to HELL!!!!"
Nope. Not a Salvational issue at all. Believe it's a donut for all I care, but don't you think about getting a job relating to engineering or logistics, because you're gonna have a rough time. You're gonna have to pick believing your wrong belief or not having the job.
"The Firmament must be made out of glass!!"
Nope it can easily be air. No reason to think it stayed solid after the Flood.
Nope. God created man from dust and He created the globe ex nihilo. See how easy that is? Your false assumptions wither upon scrutiny.
Welcome back, just a reminder that c/FlatEarth is interested in your work.
The "firmament" is made of matter, of course, what might be loosely called "waters" (hydrogen and oxygen), but it's been "stretched out" to an extreme degree. There are three heavens of different character, and it's probable there are also different dimensional statuses involved as Paul and John show. Were you looking for something more specific from that?
c/Yahweh
No, my flat-earth alt is c/SwampRangersAlt, try to keep up here.
That explains your faggotry 😂
One thing that happens at Scored is autofilters remove links that they don't like. When this happens everyone else sees "Comment removed by spam filter, pending further review." instead of your comment. You can find a log URL that will show the first line of the removed comment ["the origin of man is deliberately being covered up from us They are covering a lot more than you think about the original man. There are [two creation stories of humans in the Bible.](https://4."]. All you need to do is repost it without the link (and possibly tell people less directly how to find the link).
c/Conspiracies has no active moderators; admin names are on the list and they are active but very rarely step in here. So it's a Wild West forum right now. Don't sweat it.
You might be interested to know that basically no readers of Genesis had any problem with creation being told from two perspectives until 19th-century German higher critics came in and started writing theories about how the Bible was contradictory and recent and how nobody needed to believe in God or live morally. Little bit of pandering to their own deviances there. Quite an interesting rabbit hole. Those of us in the 21st century who are still troubled by Biblical accounts are not reading them in their cultural setting. But, as I said, I'm still interested in what the real Truth is as the two accounts have much to say about Reality that is unappreciated by Christianity (notice the movement of gold, for instance) and there is much around the text for us to learn from.
Thanks. The link that I provided was an image of a table showing the two creation stories side-by-side. Nothing special, here is another link showing exactly the same thing. Let's see if they censor this as well: https://i.pinimg.com/474x/7d/af/15/7daf15dd7d129189e4ef019c2fa295cf.jpg?nii=t
I don't have a problem with inconsistencies in the Bible, it's something I would expect. And anything can be explained to a brainwashed audience. I have an issue with what's not being there (i.e. included in the Bible), for instance 1Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, The Gospel of Thomas, Apocryphon of John, etc. Same jews were censoring then, as their descendants are doing today.
And the Gospel of Thomas is not even a gnostic text and according to many scholars it was written before the Synoptics.
He's the owner of c/Satanism c/Porno and c/Yahweh, he's playing both sides.
Good link, there are definitely intentionally different perspectives, but the chart also overextends its case such as giving the impression that "male" and "female" are plural when they aren't.
So we can talk c/FlatEarth (mine) or c/flatearthresearch (another guy's). I love apocryphal writings and they are allowed at c/Christianity (the original Christian forum, where I became the most active mod), but some might prefer c/Faith (mine) or c/ChristianAnarchism (nobody's). A friend just started c/HolySeekersOfTheWay and is open to apocrypha too, that's new so you can propose direction there if you like. There are more.
So I trust you accept James, since he's in Josephus? Note that when James says be a Doer of the Word, Hebrew for doer is Oseh, and I think the best etymological theory is that Osey became Essene. John and Jesus were a lot more Essene than people realize, because there were not just the cave Essenes, but a much broader supporter Essene network that lived in the towns but paid for the cave work to be done. The reason the Essenes vanished is twofold, the cave people couldn't keep up after life changed for everyone in 70, and the town people all became Christians and many of them dutifully headed for the hills in 68 following Jesus's prophecy. So they are a huge strand of the primitive church that (like others, including the Gentile) contributed to what the church was by the time of Polycarp and Irenaeus.
And JG5 owns c/SynagogueofSatan, so him citing those is irrelevant.