People in the "conspiracy" sector tend to expose themselves to all sorts of theories about our root reality true nature, the accidental (or divinely ironic) state of our world.
If you wish to participate, i'd like to hear a recap of where (y)our minds are at. Probabilistically, i think the stage where there are 'certainties' has been mostly surpassed by most of the remaining crowd. But if you are 'certain' sure speak your mind.
As i opened this thread, i will start. Keep in mind my own thoughts aren't the subject i seek, i would like everyone to state their own and not a comment on my own as a main topic. Although comment are welcome. Saddened to even have to state it, i will ignore comments from known shills/antinazi faggots who make it their whole act.
I feel we are in a nested reality, and that 'the soul' and its dimension of being is the root of our own being.
I'm agnostic to a degree, with which i mean i do sense a 'source' or 'god' but i think i cannot sense it clearly and directly, but there is a nature inside and outside which i doubt a false god could create in its most basic elements and themes, therefore i prefer to disregard 'god' directly and instead try to listen to 'nature' as clearly as i can as it is my preferred way back to my own root. I feel if there is a god, and he hid his own being in the very rules of what i am and of what is around me, then i should listen to that and it is the surest path to him and my(true)self rather than any ideology or theology or dogma about the very idea of a source we emanate from.
I think we are clearly in a poisoned society, not even just detached but actively inverting the idea of what's good and bad.
I think that while jews are the closest ethnos to the culprits they are not the main source, just the middlemen between entities who prey on humans but cannot act directly. This is not an excuse for them, it's just that there is more. They accepted to hold the gate for gain, they are to be held guilty on an ethnos level. And while i think it is surely the first step i don't think it might be the last aswell.
I think Giordano Bruno was the greatest philosopher, in that he went beyond the rules of our own world and peeked further, and saw infinite worlds and infinite universes, all part of the same game, part of another game yet. He wasn't worried no longer about the rules of our passing life and universe, but only with those of his own soul or authentic being.
Those all might change tomorrow, but it's been a while i'm there, who knows what will change again.
Where is your mind at? What do you think/feel at large?
I won't say anything with "certainty" because, while I think there is an ultimate Truth, I don't think it can be fully grasped within the physical universe.
But I do think we live in a uni-verse, for the simple reason that, barring evidence to the contrary, it's so astronomically unlikely that we exist that I think it's actually impossible for anything other than us to exist. We are the only life we know of as far as we can see and hear, in a nearly empty universe, which has operating parameters so finely tuned that the smallest shift in any of a dozen different factors would mean it would never have come in to being in the first place.
We not only live in the best possible world, but the only possible world.
That said, the only reason anything exists is due to a conscious, Good, creator; the chance that we should exist randomly makes the chance of finding a beach with the complete works of Shakespeare spelled out in crab claws seem certain by comparison.
Good, because the default state of everything is nothing; nihil. Matter is better than empty space, life is better than inanimate matter, complex life is better than basic life, and humans are better than animals. Matters move away from evil over time because there is a Plan.
Humans are special because we can understand Good and evil. Simpler life is created to fill a role and cannot deviate, but we can chose to force our will on physical reality, or not. Our natural, human, state is to move towards Good but we can knowingly reject that role.
I think the reason we do this is because we confuse the idea that we are part of a bigger Plan with the idea that the Plan is for us. I think this concept is build into consciousness itself; anything that can think can think of itself as being superior to everything else, and the more competent and the more power it has over physical reality, the more likely that will be. That's why Lucifer, an angel created by God, could turn against Him (and maybe even inevitably would).
This is the basis of Jewish belief; everything has been done for them. They are the end result and so not constrained by any sense of duty, or gratitude, or morality. This is "true" evil; the conscious decision to go against God's plan and, instead, exalt yourself.
By contrast, even though there must be a conscious effort on the part of humans, living a Good life significantly involves a certain "letting go" in order to let yourself fall in line with God's Plan, rather than trying to affect your imperfect will, no matter how well intentioned, on the world.
This i'm 50/50 on par.
On one side we are filled with false desires and false self images, on another our natural will should already be aligned with god plan for us if one there is.
I feel this kind of reasoning is a lot affected by our current dominant world view but i noticed within myself a lot of similar paradigms crashing down as i digested different ideas, usually much older than science or christianity.
This is a great start! I take it that by "basis of Jewish belief" you mean that ingrate nonconstraint is a lifestyle seen in practice of many Jews, as opposed to a specific published tenet of Judaism?
And I take it that you connect the dots that Jesus models how we are to be part of a Plan when He made Himself one with the Plan?
No, I'd say it's pretty explicit. The Talmud clearly assumes supremacy based on their "holy" lineage rather than anything they'd done to earn it.
I also wouldn't say Jesus "made Himself one with the Plan", rather He was always a part of it.
Well, whenever I look at Jesus's part in the plan it always seems like he's one with all of it. We just had a forum open up about The Way where I pointed out that even as we are all Anointed there is a sense in which the groom's "part" transcends the bride's "part".
And that's a fitting link for u/MysteriousFedKnight.
For the rest I'll leave it at the observation that unearned grace (including birth circumstance, I'm proud to be an American) is a pretty common idea around the world and doesn't seem to lead people automatically to nonrestraint rather than gratitude, not without some other corrupting factor.