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Shut it down! (media.scored.co)
posted 12 days ago by RealWildRanter 12 days ago by RealWildRanter +17 / -0
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– SmithW1984 1 point 12 days ago +3 / -2

Lol, Peter is the rock but he's nothing like the RC Pope figure. The rest of the apostles were given the same authority as Peter two chapters later in Mathew.

You realize if papal supremacy was a thing in the first millennium, there would be no need for ecumenical councils because the Petrine See alone would determine what the right doctrines and dogma is. Not to mention Alexandria and Antioch are also Petrine Sees. So if Peter is what makes Rome special how come the rest aren't up there?

You think you're somehow better than or superior to most Catholics when in fact you're just like most of them as you don't believe in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

What? You have no clue what the Eastern Orthodox Church (which is identical to the Early Church) teaches. Have you red the Church Fathers? Why do you argue over things you don't have knowledge of?

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– RealWildRanter [S] 0 points 12 days ago +1 / -1

You updated your original post in this chain and completely changed its meaning to realiagn the conversation to make like you are winning the point. You criticized jews while pulling exactly the same tricks as them. Theres no point in debating another dishonest internet random such as you.

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– SmithW1984 0 points 11 days ago +1 / -1

What part I edited that changed the meaning? Care to quote it here? As if people can't check and see it themselves that you're lying, you dirty jesuit?

I know you won't provide it so here:

It has to do with the jews - original

It has to do with the guests (the jews) - edit

Btw, as per Nostra Aetate and Lumen Gentium your Church forbids proselytizing jews because it doesn't classify Judaism as a false religion and holds that they have a functioning covenant with God. Nostra Aetate was written by a gay jesuit jew. If you're Catholic you have to submit to that teaching. Trad caths SSPX types are schismatic protestants basically. Face it, your Church has defected and this is the proof it's not the true Church which will last until the end of times.

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– SwampRangers 1 point 11 days ago +1 / -0

as per Nostra Aetate and Lumen Gentium your Church [Catholicism] forbids proselytizing jews because it doesn't classify Judaism as a false religion and holds that they have a functioning covenant with God.

Jumping in, I don't read those that way. As a covenantalist, I agree the Jews have a national covenant with God while believers in Christ are the only heirs of the spiritual covenant with God (which Jews can have on the same terms as anyone else by belief in Christ). The Catholics under Cardinal Pizzaballa are still running the St. James Vicariate out of the LPJ, which evangelizes Jews toward Messianism (Christianity within Hebrew culture), and I understand they simply have a semantic quibble that evangelization is not proselytization. However, I also suggest that Protestants have succeeded the most at this particular segment of the Great Commission, having done the most to understand the culture and treat it as pre-Messianic rather than post-Christian.

The covenantal system allows both Catholics and Protestants to be members of the one body of Christ with unique places, beside the Orthodox, and allows Jews to become members as well without losing any Jewish culture (except for those folk Jewish practices that are so easily read as idolatry that Messianics drop them readily).

I don't know who you mean as a gay Jewish drafter of Nostra Aetate, perhaps you're merely metaphorically referring to Jesuit Augustin Bea.

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– SmithW1984 2 points 11 days ago +2 / -0

I don't know who you mean as a gay Jewish drafter of Nostra Aetate, perhaps you're merely metaphorically referring to Jesuit Augustin Bea.

I mean Fr. Gregory Baum and I'm absolutely literal.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-ex-priest-who-pushed-canadian-bishops-to-reject-contraception-teaching/

RCC is full of gays and pdfs running sex trafficking operations so no surprise there.

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– RealWildRanter [S] 1 point 11 days ago +1 / -0

And I publicly deny the Nostra Aetate as sacrilegious for absolving jews for the killing of our Lord like everyone used to do before the Vatican II. If you really were a Protestant you'd have no qualms with that which leads me to believe you're another evangelical scum or worse a shape shifter like SwampRangers.

Ironically you edited this post too so I don't know what was your original intent. In cases such as this the burden of proof falls on you as you destroyed evidence thus indicating that you want to hide wrongdoings.

I said it before and I'll repeat it again to the befit of your thick skull. There's no point in debating with yet another dishonest jew. Though the more you kind do it, more people become aware of your tricks. So feel free to keep attacking me.

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– SmithW1984 3 points 11 days ago +4 / -1

And I publicly deny the Nostra Aetate as sacrilegious for absolving jews for the killing of our Lord like everyone used to do before the Vatican II.

Congratulations - you're a schismatic protestant. Catholics are in no position to criticize the infallible teachings of the ordinary and extraordinary magisterium. By rejecting Vatican II, you're contradicting Vatican I also which places you outside of the Church. Do I have to quote the document for you?

If you really were a Protestant you'd have no qualms with that which leads me to believe you're another evangelical scum or worse a shape shifter like SwampRangers.

Do you even read my replies? I've said multiple times I'm Eastern Orthodox. Do you even know what this is? You can look up my comment history and see me arguing with SwampRangers over his evangelical positions.

Ironically you edited this post too so I don't know what was your original intent. In cases such as this the burden of proof falls on you as you destroyed evidence thus indicating that you want to hide wrongdoings.

Dude, aren't you aware edits are visible here (by clicking on the eraser)?

There's no point in debating with yet another dishonest jew.

You shouldn't have any problems with it though because the Vatican condemns antisemitism and believes jews have covenantal relationship with God :clown:

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– SwampRangers 0 points 11 days ago +1 / -1

(Scored used to make the evidence trail clear for self-edits, but it's now obscured, which is why I recommend making self-edits very clear in the text and markup.)

I trust you understand that Orthodox never joined Melanchthon's Protest and that they were Catholic for a full millennium until a schism that Rome apologized for in 1965.

The statement of Nostra Aetate is the commonsense "What happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today." Well, that's basic rejection of collectivism, which I've been explaining here for 5 years without reference to that model. I also added that those who did call for his death were the same group of whom about 2,000 immediately repented in Acts 3-4, so that really breaks up the curse. However, since I do believe there are many national blessings and cursings in the Bible on many nations, it's appropriate to speak of there being a particular national curse invoked by the Jews just as they also partake of certain national blessings; this does not permit prejudicing any individual (such as with the language "you kind"), it merely speaks of demographic likelihoods. You and u/SmithW1984 are using words like "jew" and "jesuit" to mean "person who disagrees with me". I do not think it means what you think it means.

You are free to try to lay out evidence of my shape shifting and what I should do differently in my sole witness for Jesus alone.

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