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The Bible vs Eastern Orthodoxy (www.youtube.com)
posted 20 days ago by TurnToGodNow 20 days ago by TurnToGodNow +4 / -4
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– TurnToGodNow [S] 3 points 20 days ago +3 / -0

Now God can't preserve his word in the Bible but the traditions of men from your church and their word are true gospel. Even though they don't assure salvation. Make it make sense.

You should actually watch the video and study the arguments presented.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 20 days ago +1 / -0

You don't get what I'm asking you and it's a question that's prior to anything said in that video. You ultimately appeal to the Bible but the Bible didn't materialize out of the blue - it was compiled and preserved by the Church. But protestants don't believe in apostolic succession and the incorruptibility of the historic Church. This is a well-known contradiction in the protestant system, namely Sola Scriptura. Here's the defeater for it:

How did fallible men come up with an infallible Bible cannon and why do you believe the Bible was accurately preserved by those same people?

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– SwampRangers 1 point 19 days ago +1 / -0

How did fallible men come up with an infallible Bible can[]on and why do you believe the Bible was accurately preserved by those same people?

The answer is whatever the Catholics say about this, since they say the gift of infallibility was not used in the compilation of the canon (but only once or twice, in recent history). Check.

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– SmithW1984 2 points 19 days ago +2 / -0

That's a tu quoque. How does the Catholicism position being wrong help the Protestant position with that problem?

Also, your claim is false. The Catholic Vatican I teaching is that the magisterium (ordinary and extraordinary) can't teach error in any shape or form. The canon itself was declared infallible by the council of Trent.

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– SwampRangers 1 point 19 days ago +1 / -0

Inerrancy is not infallibility, which was described by Vatican I as ex cathedra statements. Catholics argue that there are exactly one, two, seven, or some other small number of ex cathedra statements (I'm sure some include Trent too); I join in with them on this and propose zero (they have never fully demonstrated delivery of an ex cathedra statement). I'll give you Trent for inerrancy, but that didn't add anything to the Protestant doctrine either, because both relied on work done by the catholic orthodox church a thousand years prior.

Separately I stated that the Protestant position of OSAS is not hyper-Calvinism (something which no Reformer ever taught). Check.

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