Sure, thank you. I'm not faithful that any text would be reliable source of fact. Especially not the bible.
All I can gather is observations. And they are most powerful
For example, I have observed that the earth could not be a globe. So, after testing and confirming, I'm confident knowing the truth, making it easy to identify bad theories on the beginning of this world.
Its simple common sense. If the earth isn't curving, then it can't be a globe.
If it's not a globe, it cannot be a space, a flat disk revolving around a sun is absurd.
So space is also a hoax. I don't know what the sun is, but I know it's moving around us and not the other way around. I know it's not a sugergy massive ball of nuclear reaction 93 million miles away.
So, in determining a theory of how this place starts, we can throw out the "big bang"
And that means we can also throw out billions of years that it supposed to take to make this globe and evolve ooze to fish to mice to monkeys to humans.
It's all a mental trap they programed since we were too young to speak. Like religions. The common belief in evolution, "scynce" and the big bag is really just a massive cult.
So, how did do this world start?
Idk. I can't be sure how big it is either. Maybe there are thousands more continents spanning infinite miles in all directions. All I know for sure is that we are trapped inside the 60 parallel south.
That is the line patrolled by all countries, no matter what stupid war is going on, every country funds and protects the penguins in Antarctica, a land supposedly bigger than US or Australia that all countries agree to just leave be. Ok, that's enough set up.
Here is my theory.
We were placed here in this area not very long ago. The humans here come from many different experiments or other areas, placed here at various points and time over the past few thousand years.
We are always getting new humans that were not born here. Look at orphan trains. Do you think all these immigrants that came in to the US are from this part of "earth"
I think they plant children throughout that will forget where they came from before they can talk. And this is how we get a lot of new people still.
They are overlords. Who own this place. The high level secret societies and high level Jews are the only ones who know more truth than the average person.
Humans are placed here, owned and managed like property. We are economic slaves, experiments, entertainment, delicacies, and pets.
God is a fake psy op to prevent us from figuring out what this spirituality is that we cannot deny. Testimony of people who have died and come back, I've listened to hundreds of them. There isn't proof of religion, Jesus or God in all the stories. The most common was a feeling of love or sense of going home
So, fuck religions. They are used against us to prevent us from connecting to our soul.
I found halotropic breath sessions are the most reliable way for even the most scrutinized mind to be introduced to the fact we have a soul. Try it, because you will also find knowingness in this state. I cannot explain
Sounds like you don't know how to be inquisitive. You've also been conditioned and programmed so far, that you don't even know how to ask a good question because on your programmed mind,the notion of the globe being a hoax is so absurd, it just simply must be beneath you.
We don't have to go the bible yet but it does reflect my understanding so I will have to say I believe God when He says He formed the world in Genesis.
I think the earth is a globe and I think space exists. I don't believe the big bang as commonly defined and I think it bounces maybe. I also believe in physics and quantum mechanics, the tiny bits I'm able to process and understand, I'm not that smart..
I also think there (edit: are) multiple levels of dimension but I can't reach them all yet, this side of glory.
I'm looking up the breathing, I get nervous with new agey things.
I'm glad you joined in and hope we can keep sifting through what we can know and think together.
If you believe the globe and space hoax then you just haven't checked the math yet. Don't just believe in physics and math, do some yourself. It's actually not over your Head. " flat earth proofs." I know flat earth content is 99% planted pay op....but that's how you know you're on the right path. Learn by observation, don't believe anyone. Just use their flat earth proofs to test the globe theory
it all falls apart. It takes weeks to adapt to this. Search where they muddy the waters, that's where they cannot hide the truth.
Observation is the only thing you can rely on. The bible and God could be a total scam. And you have nothing except a misguided understanding of your spiritual connection to your higher self.
The proof for multiple dimensions is not there. It's theory. I wouldn't waste too much time.
Anti New age content is how they scare you from trying halotropic breath work.
I follow no religion, no new age guy or gal, nothing except what I found to be useful. Watch some videos, don't be a scared, but make sure you don't with someone who will help you. You will be vulnerable and might need help stretching out your hands and arms if you cramp
You can't image how critical it is to understanding the deception you're living in. I don't know what "shape" it is, I only know they are lying and it's easy prove with basic math and science.
Plane is the right word, but still I think you're missing a critical part.
It's just the world is so institutionalized they won't even think. Like you're doing, you want to skim over it like to doesn't matter. It matters that they are decieving us.
They are lying about where we are, how we got here, who is in control, etc. but I can speculate that we would not look this if we grew up normally, with meat diet, no vaccines or fluorides or whatever other shit they dump into us depending on where I live.
I think we were part of the Giants that lived here not long ago. You think dino bones, but I think they are not millions of years ago, and they were human that lived for hundreds of years
..and, still I don't think we are from here, I think we're engineered to be here
How can u have an intellectual discussion about origins of earth when your belief are so strong?
Please, do make a post showing us your mathmatical proofs.
With some simple googling all I could find was someone claiming to be a physicist, but their youtube says
My name is Chinonso and I am a self learner that teaches Physics and Mathematics. I just graduated from my first year of university 🥳 year of university at UTAustin, and I like writing, teaching, and having fun. If you like my videos, please consider sharing (it really helps me out!)
Claims because of centrifugal force, globe earth couldnt possible be real, doesnt understand that that relative to its size, the earth isnt spinning that fast. There are entire planets that revolve around their sun in a day, I can only imagine how fast one of those are spinning.
This exoplanet, located about 65 light-years away, was measured to rotate at almost 100,000 kilometers per hour.
The Earth spins at approximately 1,000 miles per hour (1,600 kilometers per hour) at the equator
The centrifugal force is very small, and like that video explained I linked the other day, it becomes even smaller the closer you get to the pole because the circle is smaller at the point in the globe. You know, math stuff, its not meant to be intuitive. Thats what makes it you know, so hard and shit. Explains why all these fuckers have bad knees here in canada. In ohio I never heard of anyone getting a knee replacement, up here all the boomers are getting replacement knees, fucking weird.
Now funny enough, it could be flat, but appear a globe due to spacetime. which no one can agree on what it is. As much as weve figured out in the last thousand few thousand years, there is still so much we dont know. No one denies that. Thats why its called the scientific method until the vaccine crazies said that science is settled!
To observe implies holding onto, so what about the different perspective of each being able to hold onto? What differentiates perspectives from one another, and how could one hold onto anything while being differentiated aka separated?
I'm confident knowing the truth
If one confidence is based upon holding onto truth, then doesn't sharing truth with others contradict ones observation (to hold onto)?
Its simple common sense.
a) If common sense implies simple, then does ones particular sense imply complex? What if it's the opposite? What if COM-mon COM-plexity distracts one from simplicity?
b) Sense/sentire - "to perceive" implies each ones perception within all perceivable, hence be able to become aware of differences within ones surrounding.
How could perception be common without corrupting each ones different perspective? How is common sense different from "hive mind"?
If it's not a...
What if matter (life) can only be shaped within motion (inception towards death)?
What if a conflict about shapes (flat vs round) tempts one to ignore the implication of shaping? Holding onto one shape, while fighting those who hold onto another shape...doesn't that contradict shaping.
What if few suggest both shapes to shape the minds of many into a conflict called reason, based on "circular" logic?
If the earth isn't curving
Doesn't life, while being moved from inception towards death, represent a curvature of growth within a flat-line of loss?
Ask yourself who defines; redefines and contradicts the meaning of the word "space" to distract many from wandering within into wondering about?
how did do this world start?
As form within flow. The fundamental question you so far failed to ask yourself is...can start (inception) and finish (death) only be measured from within (life)?
What if only a partial within a whole can have a measurable beginning and end?
I can't be sure how big it is either
Only within all (whole) can one (partial) grow big or small. Theorizing about how big or small ALL is...curtails ONES growth potential.
we can also throw out
What does it imply if a partial within whole throws something "out"?
a mental trap they programed since we were too young to speak
What if speaking implies using the suggested abc/abecadary/abacadabra of others? What if the shape of words distracts one from sound enabling one to shape? Does holding onto the definition of words contradict the movement of sound?
Teaching a child to respond to a word is called "to civilize"...do it to a dog and it's called "to domesticate".
infinite miles in all directions
Miles aren't infinite, they tempt ones mind to confine itself to a measure-ment in-between start and finish.
What if direction (inception towards death) implies infinite; while directed (life) implies finite?
We were placed
Ones position implies apart from one another. It's place-ment (place within mind) which can be tempted to ignore that, when consenting, and thereby joining, suggested pluralism (we).
overlords
Understanding tempts one to stand-under, while permitting others to lord-over one...
high level
Level implies balance; being implies choice...choice within balance implies as above/so below.
Level implies horizontal aka flat...
will forget where they came from
Will/want implies within need. Forget (forwards getting) implies towards wanted outcome, while ignoring needed origin.
secret societies
SEC (seco; to divide) SOC (socius; together)...nature divides beings from one another; few tempt many together with artifice.
jews are the only ones who know more truth
a) Plural (jews; ones) contradicts singular (one)...not the jews, but each chosen one.
b) To know implies ones perception of all perceivable. Therefore...each one knows all. It's ones consent seeking understanding from the suggestion of another, which tempts one to ignore all perceivable.
A jew doesn't know more...a jew tempts gentiles to ignore all perceivable value for less, and less, and less valuable suggestions.
A jew doesn't rise above...it's gentiles who keep digging below.
A jew doesn't hide information...a jew suggests information to tempt gentiles to hide from perceivable inspiration by ignorance/denial.
A jew doesn't control reality...gentiles give each jew control over fiction (suggestion), while ignoring reality (perception).
owned like property
a) Being implies differentiated from one another...a jew utilizes suggestion to tempt gentiles to give consent "alike".
b) Nature sets each being free (will of choice)...a jew tempts gentiles to believe aka to hold onto aka to take into possession suggested information, hence believing that buying (consent) into what others are selling (suggestion) gives one ownership over it.
In reality...potential (life) during procession (inception towards death) cannot be taken into possession aka matter cannot hold onto motion, only onto each other, which represents the wanted temptation to ignore the need to resist being moved towards DEATH of LIFE.
Whatever a gentiles thinks he owns represents a self imposed burden, which makes it harder and harder to resist (living) temptation (dying). Once a gentiles chooses to let go of self imposed burden...he will "own nothing and be happy".
We are
All was before one can come into being within. We implies the accumulation of many ones by few ones, while ignoring the separation of all into each one.
God is a fake
a) Father (motion) > mother (momentum) > trans-formed-off-spring (matter). From the perspective of matter...motion represents the "unmoved mover".
b) Real implies ones RE-sponse to AL...fake implies ones ignorance of all for one another.
spirituality is that we cannot deny
Free will of choice implies being enabled to bind self by both agreement or denial to one another, while ignoring that all sets each ones free by internal separation from one another.
Separation permits mental denial or agreeMENT of physical. The mental conflict (agree vs denial) is called "reason", and it's artificial aka a hoax.
Coronavirus showed that psychical spirit/spiro (to breathe) can be mentally tricked into denying that "I can't breathe" leads to death, which was then psychically symbolized by putting a mask over ones mouth and nose.
we have a soul
Soul/sole implies one and only...suggested pluralism (we) tempts one to ignore that.
My theory is that humans are biological routers. Our brains are connected to our control systems that are spiritual.
Our brains and bodies rely heavily on homeostasis to maintain a strong connection to our spirit above or below wherever you think that is.
When our bodies are overtoxified by vegetables, fruits, breads suagars, processed foods, and drugs and alcohol. Then We can develop all kinds of symptoms that medicine labels as things like schizophrenia, dementia, bipolarism. (Consume water and Animal products only to live)
What's happening I think is that there are other spirits or entities which influence the body when it's not being controlled properly through the regular channels because the biology is compromised.
This is more evident when someone is super drunk or high. Or overweight or even sensitive to certain foods.
We have run out of space, start a new comment thread in that post, just reply to my first comment there maybe?
done
Copy the text (to preserve it), refresh the page, and generally it goes through.
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Arguments over stories in the biggest psy op plaguing this world, the bible
We're arguing over who created the world and why and what to do about it, join us?
Sure, thank you. I'm not faithful that any text would be reliable source of fact. Especially not the bible.
All I can gather is observations. And they are most powerful
For example, I have observed that the earth could not be a globe. So, after testing and confirming, I'm confident knowing the truth, making it easy to identify bad theories on the beginning of this world.
Its simple common sense. If the earth isn't curving, then it can't be a globe.
If it's not a globe, it cannot be a space, a flat disk revolving around a sun is absurd.
So space is also a hoax. I don't know what the sun is, but I know it's moving around us and not the other way around. I know it's not a sugergy massive ball of nuclear reaction 93 million miles away.
So, in determining a theory of how this place starts, we can throw out the "big bang"
And that means we can also throw out billions of years that it supposed to take to make this globe and evolve ooze to fish to mice to monkeys to humans.
It's all a mental trap they programed since we were too young to speak. Like religions. The common belief in evolution, "scynce" and the big bag is really just a massive cult.
So, how did do this world start?
Idk. I can't be sure how big it is either. Maybe there are thousands more continents spanning infinite miles in all directions. All I know for sure is that we are trapped inside the 60 parallel south.
That is the line patrolled by all countries, no matter what stupid war is going on, every country funds and protects the penguins in Antarctica, a land supposedly bigger than US or Australia that all countries agree to just leave be. Ok, that's enough set up.
Here is my theory.
We were placed here in this area not very long ago. The humans here come from many different experiments or other areas, placed here at various points and time over the past few thousand years.
We are always getting new humans that were not born here. Look at orphan trains. Do you think all these immigrants that came in to the US are from this part of "earth"
I think they plant children throughout that will forget where they came from before they can talk. And this is how we get a lot of new people still.
They are overlords. Who own this place. The high level secret societies and high level Jews are the only ones who know more truth than the average person.
Humans are placed here, owned and managed like property. We are economic slaves, experiments, entertainment, delicacies, and pets.
God is a fake psy op to prevent us from figuring out what this spirituality is that we cannot deny. Testimony of people who have died and come back, I've listened to hundreds of them. There isn't proof of religion, Jesus or God in all the stories. The most common was a feeling of love or sense of going home
So, fuck religions. They are used against us to prevent us from connecting to our soul.
I found halotropic breath sessions are the most reliable way for even the most scrutinized mind to be introduced to the fact we have a soul. Try it, because you will also find knowingness in this state. I cannot explain
You're retarded.
Nice argument, lazy retard
I reiterate.
Sounds like you don't know how to be inquisitive. You've also been conditioned and programmed so far, that you don't even know how to ask a good question because on your programmed mind,the notion of the globe being a hoax is so absurd, it just simply must be beneath you.
Ya, I was where you are now too
Lol. You know nothing.
Would you look at this. The flat earther is a Christ hating jew. Why is nobody surprised?
The flat earther is a psyop. There are only people who don't understand. You are not on a globe. I don't know where we are.
I am not a flat earther I just can easily test the theory of the globe and see that it's all a deception
We don't have to go the bible yet but it does reflect my understanding so I will have to say I believe God when He says He formed the world in Genesis.
I think the earth is a globe and I think space exists. I don't believe the big bang as commonly defined and I think it bounces maybe. I also believe in physics and quantum mechanics, the tiny bits I'm able to process and understand, I'm not that smart..
I also think there (edit: are) multiple levels of dimension but I can't reach them all yet, this side of glory.
I'm looking up the breathing, I get nervous with new agey things.
I'm glad you joined in and hope we can keep sifting through what we can know and think together.
If you believe the globe and space hoax then you just haven't checked the math yet. Don't just believe in physics and math, do some yourself. It's actually not over your Head. " flat earth proofs." I know flat earth content is 99% planted pay op....but that's how you know you're on the right path. Learn by observation, don't believe anyone. Just use their flat earth proofs to test the globe theory it all falls apart. It takes weeks to adapt to this. Search where they muddy the waters, that's where they cannot hide the truth.
Observation is the only thing you can rely on. The bible and God could be a total scam. And you have nothing except a misguided understanding of your spiritual connection to your higher self.
The proof for multiple dimensions is not there. It's theory. I wouldn't waste too much time.
Anti New age content is how they scare you from trying halotropic breath work.
I follow no religion, no new age guy or gal, nothing except what I found to be useful. Watch some videos, don't be a scared, but make sure you don't with someone who will help you. You will be vulnerable and might need help stretching out your hands and arms if you cramp
I think we can disagree on the shape of the plane in which we exist to get to greater truths of existence and I would like that.
There are many reasons to be cautious of the things around us and influences because we're not the only 'things' here.
Where/who do you think we come from?
You can't image how critical it is to understanding the deception you're living in. I don't know what "shape" it is, I only know they are lying and it's easy prove with basic math and science.
Plane is the right word, but still I think you're missing a critical part.
It's just the world is so institutionalized they won't even think. Like you're doing, you want to skim over it like to doesn't matter. It matters that they are decieving us.
They are lying about where we are, how we got here, who is in control, etc. but I can speculate that we would not look this if we grew up normally, with meat diet, no vaccines or fluorides or whatever other shit they dump into us depending on where I live.
I think we were part of the Giants that lived here not long ago. You think dino bones, but I think they are not millions of years ago, and they were human that lived for hundreds of years ..and, still I don't think we are from here, I think we're engineered to be here
How can u have an intellectual discussion about origins of earth when your belief are so strong?
I think they lie about a lot of things, that's why I only trust God.
I don't think we'll agree on the earth stuff that's why I'm trying to work around it (that's funny)
I think there are or at least were giants also but they aren't the Creator.
I think we can dialogue about origins even if our strong beliefs differ.
Please, do make a post showing us your mathmatical proofs.
With some simple googling all I could find was someone claiming to be a physicist, but their youtube says
Claims because of centrifugal force, globe earth couldnt possible be real, doesnt understand that that relative to its size, the earth isnt spinning that fast. There are entire planets that revolve around their sun in a day, I can only imagine how fast one of those are spinning.
The centrifugal force is very small, and like that video explained I linked the other day, it becomes even smaller the closer you get to the pole because the circle is smaller at the point in the globe. You know, math stuff, its not meant to be intuitive. Thats what makes it you know, so hard and shit. Explains why all these fuckers have bad knees here in canada. In ohio I never heard of anyone getting a knee replacement, up here all the boomers are getting replacement knees, fucking weird.
Now funny enough, it could be flat, but appear a globe due to spacetime. which no one can agree on what it is. As much as weve figured out in the last thousand few thousand years, there is still so much we dont know. No one denies that. Thats why its called the scientific method until the vaccine crazies said that science is settled!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EgbgTm0Bg&ab_channel=3Blue1Brown
So I got a few thousand years of math proofs and collective knowledge to back up globe earth, what do you have again?
To observe implies holding onto, so what about the different perspective of each being able to hold onto? What differentiates perspectives from one another, and how could one hold onto anything while being differentiated aka separated?
If one confidence is based upon holding onto truth, then doesn't sharing truth with others contradict ones observation (to hold onto)?
a) If common sense implies simple, then does ones particular sense imply complex? What if it's the opposite? What if COM-mon COM-plexity distracts one from simplicity?
b) Sense/sentire - "to perceive" implies each ones perception within all perceivable, hence be able to become aware of differences within ones surrounding.
How could perception be common without corrupting each ones different perspective? How is common sense different from "hive mind"?
What if matter (life) can only be shaped within motion (inception towards death)?
What if a conflict about shapes (flat vs round) tempts one to ignore the implication of shaping? Holding onto one shape, while fighting those who hold onto another shape...doesn't that contradict shaping.
What if few suggest both shapes to shape the minds of many into a conflict called reason, based on "circular" logic?
Doesn't life, while being moved from inception towards death, represent a curvature of growth within a flat-line of loss?
Space/spatior - "to wander" aka distance or interval between (life) line (inception towards death)... https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/space
Ask yourself who defines; redefines and contradicts the meaning of the word "space" to distract many from wandering within into wondering about?
As form within flow. The fundamental question you so far failed to ask yourself is...can start (inception) and finish (death) only be measured from within (life)?
What if only a partial within a whole can have a measurable beginning and end?
Only within all (whole) can one (partial) grow big or small. Theorizing about how big or small ALL is...curtails ONES growth potential.
What does it imply if a partial within whole throws something "out"?
What if speaking implies using the suggested abc/abecadary/abacadabra of others? What if the shape of words distracts one from sound enabling one to shape? Does holding onto the definition of words contradict the movement of sound?
Teaching a child to respond to a word is called "to civilize"...do it to a dog and it's called "to domesticate".
Miles aren't infinite, they tempt ones mind to confine itself to a measure-ment in-between start and finish.
What if direction (inception towards death) implies infinite; while directed (life) implies finite?
Ones position implies apart from one another. It's place-ment (place within mind) which can be tempted to ignore that, when consenting, and thereby joining, suggested pluralism (we).
Understanding tempts one to stand-under, while permitting others to lord-over one...
Level implies balance; being implies choice...choice within balance implies as above/so below.
Level implies horizontal aka flat...
Will/want implies within need. Forget (forwards getting) implies towards wanted outcome, while ignoring needed origin.
SEC (seco; to divide) SOC (socius; together)...nature divides beings from one another; few tempt many together with artifice.
a) Plural (jews; ones) contradicts singular (one)...not the jews, but each chosen one.
b) To know implies ones perception of all perceivable. Therefore...each one knows all. It's ones consent seeking understanding from the suggestion of another, which tempts one to ignore all perceivable.
A jew doesn't know more...a jew tempts gentiles to ignore all perceivable value for less, and less, and less valuable suggestions.
A jew doesn't rise above...it's gentiles who keep digging below.
A jew doesn't hide information...a jew suggests information to tempt gentiles to hide from perceivable inspiration by ignorance/denial.
A jew doesn't control reality...gentiles give each jew control over fiction (suggestion), while ignoring reality (perception).
a) Being implies differentiated from one another...a jew utilizes suggestion to tempt gentiles to give consent "alike".
b) Nature sets each being free (will of choice)...a jew tempts gentiles to believe aka to hold onto aka to take into possession suggested information, hence believing that buying (consent) into what others are selling (suggestion) gives one ownership over it.
In reality...potential (life) during procession (inception towards death) cannot be taken into possession aka matter cannot hold onto motion, only onto each other, which represents the wanted temptation to ignore the need to resist being moved towards DEATH of LIFE.
Whatever a gentiles thinks he owns represents a self imposed burden, which makes it harder and harder to resist (living) temptation (dying). Once a gentiles chooses to let go of self imposed burden...he will "own nothing and be happy".
All was before one can come into being within. We implies the accumulation of many ones by few ones, while ignoring the separation of all into each one.
a) Father (motion) > mother (momentum) > trans-formed-off-spring (matter). From the perspective of matter...motion represents the "unmoved mover".
b) Real implies ones RE-sponse to AL...fake implies ones ignorance of all for one another.
Free will of choice implies being enabled to bind self by both agreement or denial to one another, while ignoring that all sets each ones free by internal separation from one another.
Separation permits mental denial or agreeMENT of physical. The mental conflict (agree vs denial) is called "reason", and it's artificial aka a hoax.
Coronavirus showed that psychical spirit/spiro (to breathe) can be mentally tricked into denying that "I can't breathe" leads to death, which was then psychically symbolized by putting a mask over ones mouth and nose.
Soul/sole implies one and only...suggested pluralism (we) tempts one to ignore that.
Few suggest US (united states) to CONNECT (e pluribus unum; out of many, one) many together, which in return permits few to remain apart... https://www.amazon.com/People-Apart-Europe-1789-1939-History/dp/0198219806
Nature separates all (whole) into each one (partial)...few within invert this by tempting many together.
Your post is interesting, thanks.
Do you have any good links for halotropic breathing?
Do you have any theories on mental issues like schizophrenia and bipolar?
Wow yeah I do actually.
My theory is that humans are biological routers. Our brains are connected to our control systems that are spiritual.
Our brains and bodies rely heavily on homeostasis to maintain a strong connection to our spirit above or below wherever you think that is.
When our bodies are overtoxified by vegetables, fruits, breads suagars, processed foods, and drugs and alcohol. Then We can develop all kinds of symptoms that medicine labels as things like schizophrenia, dementia, bipolarism. (Consume water and Animal products only to live)
What's happening I think is that there are other spirits or entities which influence the body when it's not being controlled properly through the regular channels because the biology is compromised.
This is more evident when someone is super drunk or high. Or overweight or even sensitive to certain foods.
I think it's funny we have similar names
totally agree with you - and that is what I have been arguing.
I added my 2 cents.