JESUS WAS A JEW
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Facts are Facts by Benjamin H. Freedman:
Judean only has a geographic connotation, and not a religious connotation like the word Jew.
The form of religious worship known as 'Pharisaism' in Judea in the time of Jesus was a religious practice based exclusively upon the Talmud. The Talmud in the time of Jesus was the Magna Charta, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, all rolled into one, of those who practiced 'Pharisaism'. The Talmud today occupies the same relative position with respect to those who profess 'Judaism'.
Rabbi Morris N. Kertzer wrote a most revealing and comprehensive article with the title, "What is a Jew", which was published as a feature article in "Look" Magazine in the June 17, 1952 issue. In that article, Kertzer evaluated the significance of the Talmud to "Judaism" today. In that illuminating treatise, on that important subject, by the most qualified authority at the time, Kertzer stated:
Then he states:
As to the origin of the present "Jews" in Palestine, he states that those Jews derived from Eastern Europe and are not descendants of the Judeans, or the lost tribes of Israel, but rather descendants of the Khazars, a nation most people don't even know of:
On the Khazars, of Persian origin, he writes:
They adopted the Hebrew alphabet and the "Khazars adapted words to their requirements from the German, the Slavonis, and the Baltic languages". This language was known as "Yiddish", using the Hebrew alphabetic characters, but not itself Hebrew. Ask any one who speaks one of those languages to listen to Yiddish, and they will not only hear similarities, but have a vague understanding of what is being said.
This is only a part of the true history, but why bother being entangled in such vanity?
When we find ourselves in a dark cave of poor decisions, listen to that still small voice, that leading voice of conscious:
That is the voice of God, seeking to comfort and to call, to call everyone into a knowledge of His Light:
Why allow the world to put such despair and doubt in the mind? Why let the world teach of their traditions?
Have a personal study of the Bible, and learn of this love which any language of the world simply can not capture:
Jesus Christ, the name which the world wages a total onslaught against, is God Himself:
And despite the hatred of the world,:
here is the invitation, from God Himself, with the unfathomable cost of His own blood, freely given for this very same world:
TLDR: Words change meanings and can be weaponized.
Again these are old SDA sources.
False. Modern sources show the word "Jew" arose in English in the 13th century, and the divergence in meanings of Ioudaios to include both Judean and Jew would necessarily date from the destruction of Judaea and renaming of the region in 135 AD. In the Bible Ioudaios has both meanings at once, as it is much older than Judaea Province but refers to the people before they were given a Roman province.
False. The Talmud was completed in the 5th century AD. Pharisaism in Jesus's time was one of several formal sects of Judaism (including also Sadducees, Essenes, Zealots, Herodians, Sicurians, and Messianics). Pharisees and Sadducees leaned heavily but not exclusively upon the oral and written mishnah, a Talmudic source, which is essentially identical with "the tradition of the elders"; since the mishnah was in formation Jesus properly contributed to it as the greatest rabbi of the era.
False. First, for the reasons above. In the time of Jesus, the mishnah, the Sifra and Sifre, the Mechilta, notes in the targumim and qere, and other early legal codes that preceded and informed the Talmud were regarded more like Northwest Ordinances that informed religion. The Torah was the Magna Carta and Declaration, the rest of the Tanakh (OT) was the Constitution including the Bill of Rights, and the oral traditions were like Supreme Court decisions.
False. As should be clear by the quotation marks, this is not Rabbi Kertzer's sentence, but Benjamin Freedman's. Further, Freedman is not familiar with a history of blasphemy of Christ from Celsus to LaVey that includes not only the Toledot Yeshu but also hundreds of anti-Christian governments that have little or nothing to do with Judaism. Having looked at all the key Talmudic passages that might be construed as negative toward Christ or Christianity (compare Peter Shaffer, Jesus in the Talmud), I'm comfortable saying that only one rabbi (Ulla) in only one such passage (Sanhedrin 43a) is actually negative about Jesus, in an otherwise historically accurate passage; every other such allusion whatsoever conflates nascent Christianity with other movements rejected by the nascent Talmudists, and cannot be used as evidence of blasphemy. The many other non-Talmudic sources I allude to are much more blasphemous than this.
False. Again, the phrasing above makes this appear to refer to Kertzer's words, but the quote and the sequel are actually Freedman's words to David Goldstein. Further, because the Khazars converted to and intermarried within Judaism, particularly intermingling with Armenian, Balkan, and Crimean Jews, they were accepted by all Jewry as full fellow Jews and their Khazarian heritage has been lost. There is not sufficient evidence that a non-Jewish Khazarian "diaspora" existed and connected to Ashkenazim by any other route than absorptive intermarriage. We don't get to follow Freedman in othering the Ashkenazim by calling them non-Jews when all Jews accept them as Jews.
The remainder of the post contains good Biblical advice. However, the uncritical reliance on Freedman hampers your presentation.
If you replaced "Jew" with 'Christian'. Then Christians would come in here and ask which sect.
Knowing that wealthy, self described Jews dont come in here, the 'generalization' is the common tactic from retards. Instead of being detailed and concise, as to who, where, what and why.
This post is from a demon and not a concerned earthling.
Jesus was a Judean.
He was a rebel Jew Let him in
He was jewish but He didn't practice judaism, you retard.
Judaism was a later development of the hebrew religion (Christianity) described in both the NT and OT (yes, the God of Abraham was the Trinity and Abraham and Moses spoke to Christ who is the Messenger/Angel of God). Their principle religious book is the Talmud, not the OT (Torah). Judaism is as fake and gay as Islam.
You slowboys can never get this simple historical fact straight. Were all of you dropped on your head as babies? Is this because the US has been brainwashed by zionist propaganda about "Abrahamic religions" and "God's chosen people" and their twisted interpretation is the only thing you have ever known?
I feel dumber just reading your comment. And by read I mean skim.
That's because you have an aversion to the truth and prefer not to challenge your dogmatic beliefs. No one pushes the anti-christian and atheist agenda quite like the jews and you have fallen for it.
Jews are pretty clear that they prefer Christians to pagans. Because Christians run cover for them but pagans sack their temples, murder them by the millions, and make monuments about their flawless victory. Christians make Jews in control of their banks and repeatedly show them mercy when none is warranted.
To say that “Abrahamic religions” is a Zionist conspiracy denies that Christianity’s entire premise is 1) the Torah is the word of god, given to Jews to write down for us (for some retarded reason?), 2) Jesus fulfills prophecies from Judaism (not sure what other religions prophecies he was fulfilling, and considering that that’s what makes him the “messiah”, means you uphold the validity of those prophecies, which come entirely from Jews).
Also, Judaism was an oral tradition like most other religions at the time, so just because the books didn’t come till later doesn’t mean that there wasn’t a robust, formal “Judaism” back then. Similar to how Norse pagans had their own structured beliefs without it being written down.
Wrong on every single point there. Let's see:
The only Christians they like are jewed up prots that they indoctrinated with their zionism bs. This is a recent 19c development. A quick glance to history and todays culture tells you how much jews hate Christianity. Their revolutionary regimes (France, Russia) were outright anti-Christian and prosecuted Christians. The whole Enlightenment period was a turning away from the Christian tradition and back to ancient greek and roman paganism. Today it's no different and you have to be fucking blind not to see the war against Christianity waged by the jewish owned media. Did you miss the Olympics? Who brought cultural marxism, freudism, feminism, transgenderism, homosexuality, the sexual revolution and every kind of degeneracy to the forefront of society? This is all an antichristian agenda. Christianity has traditionally guarded society against such degeneracy and that's why jews were banished from countless Christian countries in the past. Jews were the destroyers of Christian monarchies because they couldn't get behind the wheel if there were a strong state and Church rule in the country.
Again you assume rabbinical judaism is the religion of Abraham. You're comiting a word-concept fallacy. The religion of Abraham is NOT judaism but Trinitarian Christianity. If you were correct, you'd have to explain why today's jews who practice rabbinical judaism reject their own tradition and the fulfilment of their prophecies? No, that's because their tradition (judaism) is a heresy that arose from the original hebrew religion of Abraham which was fulfilled with Christ who is God. Their religion rejects that, so how can it be the same religion with the same God?
There was an oral tradition indeed. And there were many factions/sects within it. Some were batshit crazy and practiced magic and worshipped idols. Much like the heretics in Christianity, which makes sense because it's the same tradition. Christianity is concerned with the Abrahamic tradition that lives to our day through the Church of Christ and the Biblical canon. Rabbinical judaism arose from the pharisees and the saducees favoring their teachings (what became the Talmud) above the Torah. This is the origin of judaism. It's an ethno-religion while Christianity is universal because the Kingdom of God is not a piece of land but eternity and His people are all that follow him and not a particular tribe.
Jews don’t want to destroy Christianity, they just want to make it Noahide compliant. Ask any Jew if they prefer Christians or Pagans and they’ll tell you they prefer Christians because they’re at least mostly Noahide compliant barring the trinity.
who was Abraham? A Jew? Who wrote all the books in the Bible? Jews. Who wrote down the “word of god”? Jews. If you believe CI nonsense then you’re coping hard. If you believe that a bunch of desert people who wrote stories about people named “Ezekiel” and “Elijah” somehow traces itself back to Europeans, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Christianity also mostly came from a Pharisee named Paul. I guess that’s why Jews call Christianity and Islam “Judaism for gentiles”, because they’ve Judaized your world view by getting you to accept their god, Yahweh, as your god, when in really he supplanted your own gods, created by your own people, and uprooted you, leaving you defenseless in this current era where you see the fruition of Christianity.
Anyway, your churches are filled with brownoids, Babylon literally inside your churches. Until you deal with that your religion is disgusting and offers no basis for this pride you have in pretending you have some magic that isn’t available to anyone else. It’s like a crack whore telling me how to live.
So you're going to believe what jews tell you, especially about religion? This is a faulty argument - saying it's the same safe for a central defining doctrine that makes all the difference. By your logic Islam is even better than Christianity for them, because they too worship an absolute non-personal god who never assumed human nature and accept the Torah as the word of God.
Judaism views Christianity as heresy of their religion which is much worse than paganism. Think about what's worse: gentiles worshipping their idols not caring about the hebrew religion or an impostor who blasphemes their god's name, defies their priests and gathers a cult following among their own people? No matter how hard you try to spin this Adam Green bs it won't fly and Adam Green and his ilk will remain retards who know little about history and even less about theology.
And who are the jews? Are the jews described in the OT the same as the jews practicing Talmudic judaism today? Please, inform yourself what the word concept fallacy is. The word "jew" has a different meaning depending on context and it doesn't always refer to people practicing judaism which again, is a much later development of the religion described in the OT (it is based on it though). As for the names - look around you. Most of the names have biblical origin. Almost as if our entire culture is founded on Christianity and you can cope and seeth all you want but if you take away all that is Christian you won't have anything left. You don't even realize how deeply set Christianity even people who reject it. Nietzsche had a good take on it. There's no pagan tradition that's alive, it's just clown world larping.
Dude, the jews were after Paul's head constantly. Isn't it funny you bark all day against the jews but take their talking points and opinions about Christianity? Just admit your main enemy is Christ and the jew-hating is just on the side. Gods are not supposed to be created by the people. What's the point in worshipping a social construct that you created? You don't even believe your pagan larp. At least real pagans believed they were children of Zeus, Odin or some other demonic entity and worshiped them accordingly. Why are you even defending paganism if there's no truth in it? Just because it's dialectically opposed to Christianity in your mind? You're basically a feminist, but instead fighting the patriarchy, you're fighting Christianity, not because you stand with truth, but because it oppresses you. It's just a power struggle.
I'm interested what's your alternative. Where should we get our morality and metaphysics from?
Rabbis are explicitly clear that they prefer Christians to pagans because Christians are simply Judaised gentiles whereas pagans say “fuck you entirely” and they hold no power over us.
So the Jews killed Jesus, but they weren’t the same Jews, so the Jews didn’t kill Jesus, but you’re mad at the Jews for killing Jesus, except they weren’t the real Jews, they were fake Jews. But they killed Jesus.
You talk about LARPing while you’re literally LARPing as “da tru Israelites”. At least I’m LARPing my own people’s traditions instead of desperately trying to assume some foreign desert tribes personalty and claim some sort of greatness for having been grafted into their horrendous religion.
You come at pagans like we are just so horrible when it’s you guys who have infinity contradictions that you balance in your head via “faith”, which is just another way of saying “I don’t want to think about it anymore, I like my fairy tales and I don’t want facts getting in my way.”
Anyway, good luck, I’m not going to change your mind, you’re not going to change mine.
Right!
Thanks for the sanity