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Whoever thinks the Bible is wrong - Explain this, please. How is that text from around 2000 years ago, still correct to this day? (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 1 year ago by Neo1 1 year ago by Neo1 +23 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This is wrong translation, with important meanings replaced.

Original text tells about etnic Jews who pretend to be Judaists as religion, not some other people who pretent to be Jews as etnicity.

ιδου δεδωκα εκ τηϲ ϲυναγωγηϲ του ϲατανα των λεγοντω̅ εαυτουϲ ιουδαιουϲ ειναι και ουκ ειϲιν αλλα ψευδονται ιδου ποιηϲω αυτουϲ ινα ηξουϲιν και προϲκυνηϲουϲι̅ ενωπιον των ποδων ϲου και γνωϲη οτι εγω ηγαπηϲα ϲε

Jews who supposed to be "ιουδαιουϲ" (Ioudaious) according to agreement with God, turned back to praising and following their "ϲατανα" (Satana) instead of God.

It is exact same Jews of Old Testament who become synagogue of Satan, instead of staying Judaists and following God's commandments.

"Jew" as etnicity in Greek will be "Εβραίος" (Ebraios).

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– SwampRangers 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I don't understand. If ethnic Jew is "Ebraios", and that doesn't appear in the passage, why do you assume they are ethnic Jews? Did you see my link showing that the letter of Ignatius to Philadelphia gives all the context necessary for the local definition of the term as certain Gentiles? Obviously there are other prophetic definitions, but they involve adding to the text.

"Ioudaious" would be Judeans, not Judaists, so Judaists defined as commandment-followers is also not in focus there.

It also doesn't mean what Paul means by "Jew in spirit", because those are not binding themselves to follow the commandments.

It refers to people, in two cities only and not in the others Jesus wrote to, who say they are "Ioudaious" and are not so. I don't see how you're getting the meaning out of it that you do.

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– CrazyRussian 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

why do you assume they are ethnic Jews?

Only etnic Jews made a deal with God and so was obliged to be Judaists who they wasn't. No other etnicity had this obligation.

"Ioudaious" would be Judeans, not Judaists

No. "Judeans" as "inhabitants of place named Judea" just have no any sense in this context.

I don't see how you're getting the meaning out of it that you do.

Just read original text as it is, without any replacements.

This insane attempts of last years to whitewash fucking Jews, all that "its Khazars, not real Jews", "Israelis are not real Jews", "Nuland,Rotshild,Pritzker,etc are not real Jews", "all that Jewish bastards are not real Jews" is just stupid. Jews are Jews - the exact same tribe that God tried to save from Satan worshipping for millenia without any result. Just read Old Testament - it is a good history of Jewish crimes against humanity. Even during the most imortant for all Jewish history and unique event when Moses had negotiations with God, Jews was busy with what? Buiding their Golden Calf idol.

Fuck this. Jews are the synagogue of Satan. Ethnic implementation of Devil's servants on Earth. If they want to change this, they could try start from sincere and tribe-wide repentance for all their crimes against humanity starting from genocides and usury, including killing Jesus and renunciation of their "choosen" status. But I'm in serious doubt anybody will ever believe them. This train departed long ago. And they will be inevitably defeated as stated in Revelations.

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– SmithW1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Only etnic Jews made a deal with God and so was obliged to be Judaists who they wasn't. No other etnicity had this obligation.

That was the OT. Christ's testament is with all people who follow Him.

Christianity is the fulfilment and the continuation of the OT worship practices and commandments. Anyone who has red the OT knows very well that while thew were God's chosen people they often disobeyed Him and got punished for it. What is described in the OT, the commandments, the tabernacle, the temple, etc is in effect proto-Christianity and not judaism.

Judaism as we know it today (rabbinic talmudism) is an aberration and a heresy of the religion described in the OT. This is exactly why Jesus argued against the pharisees and the sadducees and their oral tradition which twisted the meaning of the Torah. They were the true ancestors to the talmudic judaism we know today (which is a heresy and NOT a continuation of the religion of the OT). That's why they are of the Synagoge of Satan, because they don't worship the one true God, who is only worshipped through Christ and the Trinity.

This is the context of Rev. 3:9 - without this in mind, there is no way to correctly interpret what is meant by it.

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