You could make the case in court while on trial for tax evasion that the income tax in unconstitutional, but the jury will still find you guilty and court would still sentence you to prison.
Further, good luck ever getting SCOTUS to ever take a case on this, or getting the backing to spend at least $100,000 plus in legal fees.
Hello Agent Smith. Many have gone off Not Guilty per Jury Trials by using this as evidence and other things too that we don't have to pay taxes. Taxation is theft. Is theft legal?
Many have gone off Not Guilty per Jury Trials by using this as evidence and other things too that we don't have to pay taxes.
OK, then there should be detailed step-by-step 100% working howtos around. What exact preconditions necessary, what exact documents, witnesses, arguments, code articles numbers you need, how exactly properly apply all that in the court so judge could not arbitrary dismiss your stuff, how to answer to any questions prosecutor and judge could ask and so on.
Not fucking youtube videos, not fucking forum posts about somebody somwhere once upon a time, but straight detailed step-by-step instructions written in human language without juridical yddish.
I'm not an US citizen, but it will be very interesting for me to study basic principles and strategy of fast and guaranteed winning such cases in courts with judges and prosecutors whose salary depends on taxes I don't want to pay.
Taxation is theft. Is theft legal?
Anything that was legislated by legal authorities is legal. Theft, eating babies, fucking frogs, not fulfilling pre-election promises, usury, whatever shit those who write and pass the laws want to be legal.
You should never mix justice with enfocement of honest and morally apropriate ways of doing things and resolving disputes accepted by your people. Former is based only on what some not close to you people in power made in laws for people like you, latter is based on moral principles shared by people you live among. In courts you meet with justice, unfortunately.
Not being a US citizen by birth or naturalization makes a big difference, as you don't have automatic access to the sovereignty rights under the law for those who continue the population that created the governments by their sovereign citizenships.
Citizens have the right to pursue happiness (to work for pay) without interference. Noncitizens have their entry and stay regulated by the government already, so there is an immediate nexus to all money transferred that doesn't apply to the citizen. I haven't been asked recently to look into the laws for noncitizens to review arguments that noncitizens do not earn income, so I apologize for not having any quick takes for you there.
You are right that there should be step-by-step instructions, but since the ones who write (mammoth) step-by-step instructions are the IRS itself, which benefits from obfuscation, and the sovereign citizens are not similarly incentivized to publish but are in fact incentivized to be cautious in speech, the documentation you seek is hard to come by. There exist books that come close, but I'm not prepared to recommend one that applies to your case, and of course there are many more books that mislead or that are controlled oppo. But if you're interested in learning more about the tax fraud in this country, ask away. There would not be any fast or guaranteed path now because it would become commonplace if confirmed by courts; but recent years have allowed other surprising fast or near-guaranteed paths to materialize on other important fronts of sovereign expression, so there's always hope. Rather, we sovereign citizens have the responsibility to blaze our own pioneer paths, and those who succeed will be followed, even by noncitizens who take the additional steps of naturalization so as to share equally and responsibly in our sovereign status. Patient sovereigns decide justice ultimately.
Not being a US citizen by birth or naturalization makes a big difference
I meant I have Russian citizenship, not US one. :) I just trying that concepts on my reality. Things are pretty same really, just with some local specific.
F.e. there was no any procedure of dismissing USSR citizenship for citizens. Formally, I'm a dual citizen of USSR and Russian Federation. So, theoretically I could just use my USSR citizenship to get out RF one. And since USSR is formally exist in form of Transnistria (the only region that never declared exit or whatever from USSR, so become an only and single USSR member and formally represent USSR today), my USSR citizenship is still valid and should be formally accepted by all other states. And since RF declared itself a successor on USSR obligations, includng before USSR citizens, this effectively force it to admit my USSR citizenship and rights. So I don't even need to somehow declare myself sovereign or whatever to do same juridical mumbo-jumbo. :)
sovereign citizens are not similarly incentivized to publish but are in fact incentivized to be cautious in speech, the documentation you seek is hard to come by
I think there is a reason for that. Person who dug so deep in jurisprudence have to understand, that if everybody began use their concepts, then authorities inevitably will change the laws to close all that holes. So it is in his interest to not share that information. :)
You could make the case in court while on trial for tax evasion that the income tax in unconstitutional, but the jury will still find you guilty and court would still sentence you to prison.
Further, good luck ever getting SCOTUS to ever take a case on this, or getting the backing to spend at least $100,000 plus in legal fees.
Hello Agent Smith. Many have gone off Not Guilty per Jury Trials by using this as evidence and other things too that we don't have to pay taxes. Taxation is theft. Is theft legal?
OK, then there should be detailed step-by-step 100% working howtos around. What exact preconditions necessary, what exact documents, witnesses, arguments, code articles numbers you need, how exactly properly apply all that in the court so judge could not arbitrary dismiss your stuff, how to answer to any questions prosecutor and judge could ask and so on.
Not fucking youtube videos, not fucking forum posts about somebody somwhere once upon a time, but straight detailed step-by-step instructions written in human language without juridical yddish.
I'm not an US citizen, but it will be very interesting for me to study basic principles and strategy of fast and guaranteed winning such cases in courts with judges and prosecutors whose salary depends on taxes I don't want to pay.
Anything that was legislated by legal authorities is legal. Theft, eating babies, fucking frogs, not fulfilling pre-election promises, usury, whatever shit those who write and pass the laws want to be legal.
You should never mix justice with enfocement of honest and morally apropriate ways of doing things and resolving disputes accepted by your people. Former is based only on what some not close to you people in power made in laws for people like you, latter is based on moral principles shared by people you live among. In courts you meet with justice, unfortunately.
Not being a US citizen by birth or naturalization makes a big difference, as you don't have automatic access to the sovereignty rights under the law for those who continue the population that created the governments by their sovereign citizenships.
Citizens have the right to pursue happiness (to work for pay) without interference. Noncitizens have their entry and stay regulated by the government already, so there is an immediate nexus to all money transferred that doesn't apply to the citizen. I haven't been asked recently to look into the laws for noncitizens to review arguments that noncitizens do not earn income, so I apologize for not having any quick takes for you there.
You are right that there should be step-by-step instructions, but since the ones who write (mammoth) step-by-step instructions are the IRS itself, which benefits from obfuscation, and the sovereign citizens are not similarly incentivized to publish but are in fact incentivized to be cautious in speech, the documentation you seek is hard to come by. There exist books that come close, but I'm not prepared to recommend one that applies to your case, and of course there are many more books that mislead or that are controlled oppo. But if you're interested in learning more about the tax fraud in this country, ask away. There would not be any fast or guaranteed path now because it would become commonplace if confirmed by courts; but recent years have allowed other surprising fast or near-guaranteed paths to materialize on other important fronts of sovereign expression, so there's always hope. Rather, we sovereign citizens have the responsibility to blaze our own pioneer paths, and those who succeed will be followed, even by noncitizens who take the additional steps of naturalization so as to share equally and responsibly in our sovereign status. Patient sovereigns decide justice ultimately.
I meant I have Russian citizenship, not US one. :) I just trying that concepts on my reality. Things are pretty same really, just with some local specific.
F.e. there was no any procedure of dismissing USSR citizenship for citizens. Formally, I'm a dual citizen of USSR and Russian Federation. So, theoretically I could just use my USSR citizenship to get out RF one. And since USSR is formally exist in form of Transnistria (the only region that never declared exit or whatever from USSR, so become an only and single USSR member and formally represent USSR today), my USSR citizenship is still valid and should be formally accepted by all other states. And since RF declared itself a successor on USSR obligations, includng before USSR citizens, this effectively force it to admit my USSR citizenship and rights. So I don't even need to somehow declare myself sovereign or whatever to do same juridical mumbo-jumbo. :)
I think there is a reason for that. Person who dug so deep in jurisprudence have to understand, that if everybody began use their concepts, then authorities inevitably will change the laws to close all that holes. So it is in his interest to not share that information. :)